the future is not set...

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Dyp100

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The world is set by choice and effect.

No matter what you did 5 minutes ago, or someone else did 500 years ago, it will effect you in SOME WAY, even if many choices will die out, there reprocussions will effect you somehow.

Everything is connected, there is no set future, just the future built upon the past and the choices of people.
 

ThreeWords

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In one sense, everything is up to chance: there is no plan, and nothing controlling it.

On the other hand, everything is pre-determined. What people do is applied psychology, which is in turn applied biology, which is chemistry, which is physics. As any physics phenomena will result the same way twice, given the exact same starting situation, what will happen wan be predicted, and therefore, if you had enough information, and were impossibly clever (both to the point of godhood), you could work out the entire future of everything
 

Godavari

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I believe in a type of fate, wherein given the actions and mentality of people thusfar, you can predict exactly how they will live their lives.
If anyone's ever read iRobot (not the movie!) you'll know what I'm talking about. Remember when the machine gave out false instructions, knowing that people would disobey them and do the right thing? That's basically what I'm trying to say - you can predict exactly how people's lives will play out if given enough information and time.
 

Knight Templar

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I was taught that sand on a beach is there because it's the only type of sand that will stay there, all others are washed away.

The future is not set, but neither could the past have happened diffrently, if things could have been diffrent then why weren't they? I also belive that you can't change the past, because any changes would to the past would need to have allready occured as they are in the past, therefore anything you do in the past was allready done and will not change anything.
 

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I tend to believe that everything is pre determined even the occasional Screw Destiny is pre determined. So if a guy comes back to change the past and succeeds then he was fated to do so and the future he came from is not the worlds true fate.
 

Svenparty

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I know My opinion will probably change tomorrow but right now things seem endlessly random.

If I have any belief in Destiny etc I prefer to follow a Dali esque understanding of it all.
 

the1ultimate

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Fate is meaningless in the face of many of the mundane decisions people make which lead them to the future.

I believe in determinism, so I believe that the future is what results from the past. All the causes are already in play, we only wait to watch the effects.

Of course people have already made many of their decisions before they reach them, so that is destiny in a sense.
 

quiet_samurai

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Fate or destiny... whatever you want to call it, only takes you so far. From there it's up to you to move forward or that option could be lost to you.
 

Seldon2639

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I believe in the predestination of our choices. There is no true "chance" in the universe, everything happens the only way it can. A coin flip is non-random, it only appears that way because we can't predict the outcome, and we can't predict the outcome because we don't understand the initial inputs and physics well enough. Complexity doesn't equal randomness. The fact that we can't accurately predict an outcome does not make it unpredictable.

The same is true for all of human endeavor, interaction, and existence. Human choices are all determined purely physiologically and mechanically. The choice we make in any given instance is the only choice we can make in that instance. We have no free will, we're simply acting upon the electrochemical impulses in our brains, and thus our choices are entirely predetermined by our prior experiences and the architecture of our brains. Complex, but non-random.

The same is doubly true for any physical phenomenon. We find all manner of natural disaster to be "unpredictable", but it happens entirely because of physical law. The system is complex, and interconnected, but everything that happens occurs because there is no other way for it to occur. We cannot alter the choices our purely physical minds make, nor can we mute the basic laws of nature.
 

mechanixis

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I guess I sort of see asking if the universe is destined or not like asking whether or not a brick is friendly. It doesn't really apply, and it's sort of putting a human filter on an inhuman thing.

Only what happens can happen, because what doesn't happen can't happen. Therefore, everything is predetermined, in a sense. But in a way that cannot possibly matter.

(I'll just call it 'zen' and accuse anyone who says I'm talking nonsense of being shallow.)
 

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Cargando said:
fedirko7 said:
Cargando said:
No destiny.

Also, if I think that if you went bac in time ad say... killed your Father as a child, you'd still be born, but the you that would have existed before you killed him, would cease to exist.


that's called a paradox.



Yes, but it would be interesting to experiment with the idea wouldn't it?






yes, right up until you stop existing