The Green Inferno - Cannibal Holocaust Redux

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The Green Inferno - Cannibal Holocaust Redux

The Green Inferno wants to be a gross movie, and it succeeds in being a gross movie. Does that mean it's good?

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You know, I actually kind want to see this movie now, if only because I'm so sick of these whiny third-world loving hippies it'll be nice to see some get nommed on.
 

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Unless you fit into the very small group of people who are satisfied with a movie containing nothing but gore, you'll want to skip The Green Inferno.
I think the Saw franchise showed us that group isn't particularly small, even if it isn't block buster-sized.
LysanderNemoinis said:
You know, I actually kind want to see this movie now, if only because I'm so sick of these whiny third-world loving hippies it'll be nice to see some get nommed on.
As much as I like this reasoning (it's why I want to see it after all) it's too bad that they couldn't make it more realistic since you can't really have a movie star people who look the role, and the whole premise is based on them actually doing something for once.
 

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I consider myself someone who at least has some kind of respect for the shock and gore genre (more than I do for mainstream jumpscare horror in most cases at least), and I have little interest in The Green Inferno. Cannibal Holocaust wasn't a perfect movie by any means but it did include an element of complexity and story, examining the morality of westerners trying to disrupt the way of life in those areas. Just doing a lazy ripoff of the movie with better effects isn't enough for my greenbacks.

There really is no more proof needed to show the MPAA is corrupt as hell, this case seemed to be par for the course at this point.
 

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tf2godz said:
I heard somewhere that this is a take that against sjw and activism but considering that malicious clearing and killing indigenous tribes for personal profit is a real-world issue it comes off really ignorant and offensive
As the director (correctly) stated the movie isn't going to change anything in that regard due to the fact that the people doing that clearing and killing don't need any more justification then what they already have.

Plus, the tribals they hired for the movie didn't seem to mind, behind the scene footage I saw a few days back made it clear they where all on-board with the idea. The film crew even showed them Cannibal Holocaust so they could have a clear idea of what they wanted to do. The reaction was laughter at the absurdity of that movie.

It's a harmless movie that everyone involved seemed to enjoy making that's pandering to a demographic that's the overlap of "watching gore movies" and "seeing an annoying group everyone not in said group hates get killed". It's like Dead Snow only without pretending to make the protagonists likeable.
 

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hentropy said:
There really is no more proof needed to show the MPAA is corrupt as hell, this case seemed to be par for the course at this point.
Why's that? What rating did the movie get? I don't even know what it would get here in Quebec since the line between PG-13 and R by our standards is somewhere between The Kingsmen and Dredd.
 

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Zontar said:
hentropy said:
There really is no more proof needed to show the MPAA is corrupt as hell, this case seemed to be par for the course at this point.
Why's that? What rating did the movie get? I don't even know what it would get here in Quebec since the line between PG-13 and R by our standards is somewhere between The Kingsmen and Dredd.
As discussed in the article, the gore is beyond what would be accepted for an R-rated movie, but because Eli Roth is the director and Universal is attached to it, it gets a pass. The MPAA has a long history of favoritism to big studios when it comes to ratings. Not sure how it works in Canada, but here even though it's not a government body, the MPAA have given BS NC-17 ratings to indie movies, effectively keeping them out of major theaters.
 

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Zontar said:
tf2godz said:
I heard somewhere that this is a take that against sjw and activism but considering that militias clearing and killing indigenous tribes for personal profit is a real-world issue it comes off really ignorant and offensive
As the director (correctly) stated the movie isn't going to change anything in that regard due to the fact that the people doing that clearing and killing don't need any more justification then what they already have.

Plus, the tribals they hired for the movie didn't seem to mind, behind the scene footage I saw a few days back made it clear they where all on-board with the idea. The film crew even showed them Cannibal Holocaust so they could have a clear idea of what they wanted to do. The reaction was laughter at the absurdity of that movie.

It's a harmless movie that everyone involved seemed to enjoy making that's pandering to a demographic that's the overlap of "watching gore movies" and "seeing an annoying group everyone not in said group hates get killed". It's like Dead Snow only without pretending to make the protagonists likeable.
That still doesn't change the fact that his take that/social commentary fails miserably if you have an inkling of understanding of this Global problem. you could make a social commentary about sjw but director seems too lazy to actually put some research in into it and put a plot to it.

Eli Roth always seem to be up his own ass about these things and thinking he's smarter than anybody else. just watching Human Centipede 3 can tell you that.
 

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hentropy said:
Zontar said:
hentropy said:
There really is no more proof needed to show the MPAA is corrupt as hell, this case seemed to be par for the course at this point.
Why's that? What rating did the movie get? I don't even know what it would get here in Quebec since the line between PG-13 and R by our standards is somewhere between The Kingsmen and Dredd.
As discussed in the article, the gore is beyond what would be accepted for an R-rated movie, but because Eli Roth is the director and Universal is attached to it, it gets a pass. The MPAA has a long history of favoritism to big studios when it comes to ratings. Not sure how it works in Canada, but here even though it's not a government body, the MPAA have given BS NC-17 ratings to indie movies, effectively keeping them out of major theaters.
Here in Canada it's more a provincial thing then a national one, but in Quebec we are VERY lax when it comes to ratings. For example: every Marvel movie has had a G rating, as stated before Kingsmen was given a PG-13 rating, and R is reserved for only the bloodiest and sex filled movies like Dredd. An R rating is such an uncommon occurrence here theatres will usually put up pieces of paper on the doors saying "to see (R rated movie) you need an I.D."

I actually remember going to see The Happening alone as a 13 year old and after the movie wondering why you Americans gave it an "R".

When movies and shows come out on DVD our ratings are even MORE lax, as we have the system be "G", "PG", "TV14", "TV16" and "NC17". I'd say "NC17" is basically porn, but there are actually quite a few pornographic elements which make it into "TV14" and "TV16", especially for animation (outside of straight up hentai, Queen's Blade is the only anime I'm aware of which got a "TV16" rating for its uncensored version, with all other such shows getting a "TV14")

I think you can see now why a few months back I made a thread asking why Americans where such prudes when it comes to entertainment.
 

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tf2godz said:
It's a little hard to make an interesting movie out of that particular issue that's what one could call 'realistic' given how outside of complaining on computers all day the only place it seems to manifest itself is on collage campuses or down town areas of major cities.
Eli Roth always seem to be up his own ass about these things and thinking he's smarter than anybody else
That sounds like every single Hollywood directer I've ever heard about.
 

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Zontar said:
tf2godz said:
It's a little hard to make an interesting movie out of that particular issue that's what one could call 'realistic' given how outside of complaining on computers all day the only place it seems to manifest itself is on collage campuses or down town areas of major cities.
I just saying it's a really poorly thought out social commentary. it would be like me making a movie about how if we switch over to ebooks we would cut down more trees.

Eli Roth always seem to be up his own ass about these things and thinking he's smarter than anybody else
That sounds like every single Hollywood directer I've ever heard about.
at one point in that movie he plays himself and people are praising him as a god of film making. he has his head quite deep in his ass
 

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tf2godz said:
at one point in that movie he plays himself and people are praising him as a god of film making. he has his head quite deep in his ass
That still sounds like quite a few Hollywood directors, like Shamalon or Tarantino.
 

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tf2godz said:
Zontar said:
Eli Roth always seem to be up his own ass about these things and thinking he's smarter than anybody else
That sounds like every single Hollywood directer I've ever heard about.
at one point in that movie he plays himself and people are praising him as a god of film making. he has his head quite deep in his ass
god of filmmaking

Now I really want to see Eli Roth contractually obligated to make a PG-rated drama and watch the sweat beads form.
 

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Zontar said:
tf2godz said:
at one point in that movie he plays himself and people are praising him as a god of film making. he has his head quite deep in his ass
That still sounds like quite a few Hollywood directors, like Shamalon or Tarantino.
at least at one point those two made a Good movie
 

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tf2godz said:
Zontar said:
tf2godz said:
at one point in that movie he plays himself and people are praising him as a god of film making. he has his head quite deep in his ass
That still sounds like quite a few Hollywood directors, like Shamalon or Tarantino.
at least at one point those two made a Good movie
Well, one of the did once upon a time, though each day it seems those two good movies where a fluke and just a "Chronicle" situation where it was despite, not because, of the director.
 

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Zontar said:
tf2godz said:
Zontar said:
tf2godz said:
at one point in that movie he plays himself and people are praising him as a god of film making. he has his head quite deep in his ass
That still sounds like quite a few Hollywood directors, like Shamalon or Tarantino.
at least at one point those two made a Good movie
Well, one of the did once upon a time, though each day it seems those two good movies where a fluke and just a "Chronicle" situation where it was despite, not because, of the director.
They still made movies that didn't want me to pull a saw on them
 

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tf2godz said:
Eli Roth always seem to be up his own ass about these things and thinking he's smarter than anybody else. just watching Human Centipede 3 can tell you that.
I don't understand this. He has nothing to do with those movies.

He has made one of the very, few sequences that have made me turn away from the screen. Even though I've watched the behind the scenes video of them throwing the fake legs over, I still have a hard time watching the hamstringing from Hostel. And I've watched a ton of the movies he takes his inspirations from. I love his films.

I'm looking forward to this new challenge.
 

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American Fox said:
tf2godz said:
Eli Roth always seem to be up his own ass about these things and thinking he's smarter than anybody else. just watching Human Centipede 3 can tell you that.
I don't understand this. He has nothing to do with those movies.
oh shit your right! I got confused because they're both horror hacks in a pool of horror hacks.

anyway my mistake sorry.
 

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tf2godz said:
LysanderNemoinis said:
Zontar said:
I heard somewhere that this is a take that against sjw and activism but considering that militias clearing and killing indigenous tribes for personal profit is a real-world issue it comes off really ignorant and offensive
Not to mention the thousands of uncatalogued plants that could potentially cure the worst diseases in the world, and save millions of lives.

But yes, Eli Roth must stick it to the real threat.