The Infamous Star Wars Trilogy........

[Warforger]

So I watched Episode 2 for fun today, since I was young when it was new and loved it since it was Star Wars, due to being a stupid kid. But really I remember only liking it for the actions sequences, the love story could go fuck itself. Now I saw it again and I felt the same thing, the love story was terrible, Hayden was terrible because he delivered his lines in the same tone and emotion every time and alot of the dialogue was as stupid as Japanese game dialogue i.e. pointing out the obvious, or at least giving away like "now she can't fight against the bill" instead of "who will defend against the bill then?" stuff that should be subliminal. But I really enjoyed the action sequences, the dialogue with the Jedi wasn't thank god terrible and it was entertaining, sure a bit cheesy at times and some plot holes like for example why is there no security at all in a place where all the leaders of this separatist movement are? But other then that, it was 3/5, its story was a joke but the action part and the characters related to it were great. I felt Jango Fett while he was given a bigger part then Boba Fett did in his career, should've been on the Republic's side and died killing the Jedi in the 3rd episode.

But I felt it shouldn't have received the massive amount of flak it did, sure it was terrible in some aspects like script, but it kept some things like for example when Padme, Obi-Wan and Anakin are in the arena, they face monsters that mirror them and what would happen to them. It isn't given away in the Lucas theme but I saw it. Plus the action sequences were amazing.

On a related note I was playing Star Wars Jedi Starfighter, they should've taken the guys who did those lines and put them into the movie in place of Natalie and Hayden......

 

[Flailing Escapist]

I really liked Liam Neeson and Ewan Mcgregor in the new trilogy. But that was it.
As far as the first trilogy goes I like to pretend episode 6 doesn't exist.
(also: I think Bioware does Star Wars better than George Lucas. Shhhhhhhhhh)

 

[scorptatious]

I loved the Star Wars movies.

I personally don't get most of the hate towards the prequels myself. Other than Anakin, who I agree is sort of a whiny *****. Otherwise though, they all still hold a special place in my heart.

 

[Matt_LRR]

I refer you to http://redlettermedia.com.

Right here: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

Start with episode I, work your way through, and come to understand the extent to which these films are truly hate-worthy.

-m

 

[Kolby Jack]

I agree that Hayden was a terrible actor and the love scene was fairly overplayed (along with Jar-Jar existing), but I love all the Star Wars movies, even the prequels.

The fuck is this?

 

[Jegsimmons]

i think the original is near perfect, the prequels...iffy, but they have their place in movie history, even as a learning tool. and they did expand the universe quite a bit and did give us a fairly good cartoon show.

 

[Jegsimmons]

I agree that Hayden was a terrible actor and the love scene was fairly overplayed (along with Jar-Jar existing), but I love all the Star Wars movies, even the prequels.

The fuck is this?

saws chardw

 

[Soviet Heavy]

The only saving grace for Attack of the Clones was the Obi Wan versus Jango Fett plot. But unfortunately the love story was the main plot for some insane reason.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Heck, the only interesting character was that big hairy guy, and the only reason i liked him was because he couldn't talk!

You must have enjoyed the Christmas Special then.

 

[Arsen]

Anyone else ever notice one gaping flaw at the conclusion of every I - III fight scene?

Episode I - Darth Maul watches Obi Wan sail over him, land, then chop him in half.

Episode II - Jango Fett stands there as Mace runs over to him before his decapitation. Anakin stretches out his arm in what is quite possibly the WORST attempt to block a swing before getting it lopped off by Count Dooku.

Episode III - Count Dooku bent over and allowed Anakin to place his saber BENEATH his hands before cutting them off. The four Jedi minus Windu STAND still while Sidious cuts them down (okay, the other guy got a block or two in). It takes Mace Windu, FIVE seconds to consider killing palpatine before Anakin lops his hand off. General Grevious LEAVES his rib cage open, allowing Obi Wan to shoot his heart. Anakin slaughters the Seperatists which just STAND there.

Then the Mustafar fight ends on the most anti-climactic attack in the entire movie. And that's worse is that it's the ONLY practical attack anyone has made throughout the course of the entire move.

But my point is this: Each and every time someone is killed they had an obvious five seconds to prevent their imminent death from happening.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I agree that Hayden was a terrible actor and the love scene was fairly overplayed (along with Jar-Jar existing), but I love all the Star Wars movies, even the prequels.

The fuck is this?

saws chardw

No, that weird squiggle was apparently a "q" unless CAPTCHA doesn't really care. Which would be strange.

 

[Vault101]

Im a noob when it comes to star wars

but Ibelvie theres a REASON everyone hates them

you could argue it to the death star and back but they SHOULD have been better..there are no excuses

 

[Saltyk]

I loved the Star Wars movies.

I personally don't get most of the hate towards the prequels myself. Other than Anakin, who I agree is sort of a whiny *****. Otherwise though, they all still hold a special place in my heart.

I don't get it either. I liked all the action. The over arching story (how the Empire was formed) was pretty interesting. And there was a grand wealth of background information that expanded the universe. And that includes the midicholorians. Hate on them all you want, but to me they explained how potential young jedi were identified. Especially when you realize that Anakin was "too old" to train as a Jedi. Seriously, there's a whole lot of great background information present in the prequels.

My only complaint was that Anakin was a whiny little brat. Especially in the third one. Kinda sad when I wanted him to fall to the dark side just so he'd stop crying.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

The only thing I liked about the prequels was that Liam Neeson and Ewan Mcgregor were in it, other than that they were pieces of shit. I like to pretend that they don't exist and the very mention of them brings involuntary twitching and bad memories. Both little and grown up Anakin were annoying as hell, especially the little one, the whiny ***** that he is.

Way to ruin Vader for me Lucas.

 

[TiefBlau]

I refer you to http://redlettermedia.com.

Right here: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

Start with episode I, work your way through, and come to understand the extent to which these films are truly hate-worthy.

-m

FUCK you beat me.

 

[Warforger]

Episode II - Jango Fett stands there as Mace runs over to him before his decapitation.

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Yah, hell Dooku once said he picked him to clone because he saw him kill 20 Jedi with his BARE HANDS, and this time he can't even think to jump away with his new jetpack to safety. Personally though I thought it would've made more sense to go onto the Republics side, I mean all of a sudden they have this army of clones of a guy who went against them, at the very least he should've worked for the Republic for the army he created, you know be a bad ass commander? It would've been awesome if he died killing the Jedi in the 3rd episode.

Anakin stretches out his arm in what is quite possibly the WORST attempt to block a swing before getting it lopped off by Count Dooku.

Yah and I kinda wondered, the light saber actually performed worse in this case then an actual sword because it cauterized the wound, while a sword would not and the victim would bleed to death. Which puts it in perspective, if they fought with actual swords Luke would've died in Episode 5, hell Anakin wouldn't have lived to make Luke.......

 

[Neverhoodian]

Anyone else ever notice one gaping flaw at the conclusion of every I - III fight scene?

Episode I - Darth Maul watches Obi Wan sail over him, land, then chop him in half.

Episode II - Jango Fett stands there as Mace runs over to him before his decapitation. Anakin stretches out his arm in what is quite possibly the WORST attempt to block a swing before getting it lopped off by Count Dooku.

Episode III - Count Dooku bent over and allowed Anakin to place his saber BENEATH his hands before cutting them off. The four Jedi minus Windu STAND still while Sidious cuts them down (okay, the other guy got a block or two in). It takes Mace Windu, FIVE seconds to consider killing palpatine before Anakin lops his hand off. General Grevious LEAVES his rib cage open, allowing Obi Wan to shoot his heart. Anakin slaughters the Seperatists which just STAND there.

Then the Mustafar fight ends on the most anti-climactic attack in the entire movie. And that's worse is that it's the ONLY practical attack anyone has made throughout the course of the entire move.

But my point is this: Each and every time someone is killed they had an obvious five seconds to prevent their imminent death from happening.

I agree with you on all of this except Jango's death. It's kind of hard to notice, but when the creature in the arena tramples him, it damages his jetpack (you can see it sparking for a second). Jango doesn't realize this, and when Mace charges him he attempts to take off (again, there's a few sparks and a sputter as he tries to activate it). The jetpack fails and Mace proceeds to decapitate him.

While I used to like the films as a teenager (cut me some slack here, teenagers can be stupid sometimes), I dislike them now as an adult. Yes the set pieces and battles can be fun to watch, but the bad far outweighs the good. The prequels directly contradict the canon established in the original trilogy ("Leia, do you remember your mother? Your REAL mother?"), there's way too much reliance on cgi effects, the acting is stiff and unconvincing, the political segments are boring and tedious, the romance is incredibly awkward, and I despise how Anakin is portrayed as a whiny *****.

On the plus side, the prequels spawned some genuinely good spin-offs such as Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars cartoon and the game Republic Commando. Still, that's not saying much for the prequels themselves.

 

[darksaber64x]

No, that weird squiggle was apparently a "q" unless CAPTCHA doesn't really care. Which would be strange.

This is off topic, but CAPTCHA only cares about one of the two words it puts in there. It knows the letters in one of the words, it's using you as labor for deciphering the other one. If a part of the CAPTCHA looks really strange, just push a few buttons and ignore that half, it'll go through.


On topic: I loved the original movies, and severely dislike the prequels. Lucas made them all tie together in an extremely stupid way, and forced in as many references to episode 4-6 as he could.

 

[OrokuSaki]

I actually like the star wars series (with the one exception being episode 2) and I actually disliked 2 BECAUSE of the lack of focus on the fight scenes. I mean, when you put ALL the galaxy's jedi in a pit to do war with an army of robots, it seems stupid to zoom out and focus on how 3 jedis can't kill the worst sith in the history of the show. (Seriously, Dooku and Grievous are the only 2 sith I've ever seen tear ass from a fight just because they were losing).

And yes, I know Anakin could have been acted better, but the whiny-ness was actually there to show a weakness in the character. That same weakness caused him to fear the death of his love and be manipulated into sacrificing the jedi order for those he truly cared about. I think this would have been a great plot if they'd chosen a better actor to play the part.

Personally I've always hated how people always have to dissect every little bit of a movie so it makes a "Statement". Really, Star Wars episode IV was not a great movie just because it could be vaguely contrived as an anti-nazi propaganda movie. That really wasn't what made it great, it was the characters and the acting and the story, not the subtext.

Now that I've ranted a good 3 paragraphs, I'd like to finish by saying that BioWare's Knights of the Old Republic 1 is the greatest contribution to Star Wars ever.

 

[silversnake4133]

Well, then again no one seems to like Shakespeare either, and that's what I compare the newer Star Wars Trilogy to. Because it's essentially Romeo and Juliet if it were set in a galaxy far far away. Also, everyone seemed to like the older trilogy most because it didn't have an overlaying love story to it that ends in tragedy. Plus it was quite advanced for its time.