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The facts have been stated, the only reason that not bright people keep thinking the internet was invented by CERN is because they cannot bother to understand the internet is NOT the world wide web protocol.
The first web page was created in 1992, you can see it here -> http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
An internet like thing named arpanet went outside the US in 1973 with a connection to norway.
Perhaps CERN was the first to name the internet the internet. They also were responsible for creating the first browser and many other important things, but they did not invent the internet.
IMHO the "inventor" of the internet was Paul Mockapetris, who invented DNS servers which allowed people to use real names for websites like cnn.com instead of raw IP like 204.246.99.251. He invented that in 1983 at the University of Southern California.
Of course the inventor of TCP/IP could also be credited with the creation of the internet, but I kinda think the internet would have just used a different networking protocol if TCP/IP was unavailable.
Anyhow.. long story short.
CERN = Browser/www
American Military = Internet Like network/original infrastructure.
Humans = Invented Everything
Dolphins = Thank us for all the fish.
The first web page was created in 1992, you can see it here -> http://www.w3.org/History/19921103-hypertext/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html
An internet like thing named arpanet went outside the US in 1973 with a connection to norway.
Perhaps CERN was the first to name the internet the internet. They also were responsible for creating the first browser and many other important things, but they did not invent the internet.
IMHO the "inventor" of the internet was Paul Mockapetris, who invented DNS servers which allowed people to use real names for websites like cnn.com instead of raw IP like 204.246.99.251. He invented that in 1983 at the University of Southern California.
Of course the inventor of TCP/IP could also be credited with the creation of the internet, but I kinda think the internet would have just used a different networking protocol if TCP/IP was unavailable.
Anyhow.. long story short.
CERN = Browser/www
American Military = Internet Like network/original infrastructure.
Humans = Invented Everything
Dolphins = Thank us for all the fish.
The real question is why do you and your friends argue about stuff that you could just look up? When you have Internet access, it doesn't really make sense to debate anything factual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
Hehehe I giggled alot at that, inventing electricity?, wrong choice of words.DoW Lowen said:
Reminds me of a friend during discussion about scientist, Isaac Newton was mentioned, he said "Newton? he invented gravity didn't he?"
much laughing was had.
As already mentioned "the internet" != "the world wide web". Sir Tim did, indeed, invent the Web while at CERN (though he didn't win a Nobel for that), but that was many years after the invention of the internet as we know it (I say this as someone who remembers that newfangled HTTP protocol, back when Gopher was still cool). I'd argue that the graphical web browser (Mosaic) was the bigger breakthough there (remember lynx?). Even before then, e-mail was the real killer-app of the internet.
Also, as mentioned, it started out as a U.S. Defense project (DARPAnet, then ARPAnet), who wanted a decentralized communication network that could survive nuclear attack. The routing around failure that makes the internet so robust was what the feds were after.
It was opened to the schools involved in building it and eventually commercial entities (Gore's claim concerns the last - there was no .com until a decade or so after the net came online).
"Where Wizards Stay Up Late" is a good book on how the internet came about. Almost shocking to think it was made by a bunch of grad students who were largely making it up as they went.
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
And whoever mentioned the OSI model - I always find it funny that the 7-layer-burrito is how the network stack is still taught, despite the fact that TCP/IP doesn't conform to that model =)
Also, as mentioned, it started out as a U.S. Defense project (DARPAnet, then ARPAnet), who wanted a decentralized communication network that could survive nuclear attack. The routing around failure that makes the internet so robust was what the feds were after.
It was opened to the schools involved in building it and eventually commercial entities (Gore's claim concerns the last - there was no .com until a decade or so after the net came online).
"Where Wizards Stay Up Late" is a good book on how the internet came about. Almost shocking to think it was made by a bunch of grad students who were largely making it up as they went.
http://www.amazon.com/Where-Wizards-Stay-Up-Late/dp/0684832674
And whoever mentioned the OSI model - I always find it funny that the 7-layer-burrito is how the network stack is still taught, despite the fact that TCP/IP doesn't conform to that model =)
alright, having just had an exam in this, let me explain. but first, take a look at this image:
let me start by asking, what is a network? by definition, a network is an interconnection between two or more separate entities, in which a form of communication is established. this can be between two people, between computers or between anything in which information is exchanged. in other words, it's an abstraction.
in our casual definition of a network, we forget that we've had telephones and telegraphs, radio and so on for much longer than computers have existed. but then, how would one otherwise explain that you could telephone or telegraph someone in the old times?
let's look at the OSI model described in the image. these are the different layers that computer use to interact with each other; each layer functions as an additional overhead to the previous (lower). why so much bother? because while a computer might be able to understand binary input, it wouldn't know where to direct it. for instance, what program would use these bits that were just sent?
you have different protocols in different layers, depending on how specific you want your protocols to be. the internet protocol (IP) is the most widely used protocol, and almost all connections go through it. for other protocols, such as HTTP and TCP, they are overheads in the upper layers that are wired through IP.
with the conception of the IP and its predecessors, the internet really began. but what exactly is the internet?
the internet is a network. it's a huge, global network; but a network nonetheless. there's nothing new about it apart from its scale. what it has, has been done before with e.g. telephones. the internet is often mislabeled as the world wide web, which it isn't. the internet just provides us with the connections between a vast number of computers world wide. it doesn't know what we're doing with the information; it only sees that there are bits flowing from some point to another.
you can't put down the invention of the internet to any one person or group of people. networks of computers happened many places at the same time. it was only logic that they would expand over greater distances. like, how a village would grow into a town, then into a city.
the last question still remains: what is then, the world wide web?
the world wide web (www) is wrongly being accused of being the internet, when in fact the www is a general overhead on top of the internet that allows us to access data more casually. the www is the escapist site, or anywhere the HTTP, FTP, SMTP, POP or similar protocol will take you. what you read here, your email, your blog, your posts, your life and so on.
the world wide web was invented by tim berners-lee, along with his CERN posse of students. but he only created the HTTP overhead in which it was possible for a browser to access a site. you can credit him for being able to have a forum and a discussion here today, and you can read more here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Http target="blank_].
my point here was to show that the internet is just a vast network of computers. the internet as it is today, however, would be nothing if tim berners-lee hadn't created the HTTP protocol which spearheaded internet popularity to what it is today. chances are that without him, the internet would still be restricted to scientists and governments, without allowing casual access through web browsers to the average joe.
let me start by asking, what is a network? by definition, a network is an interconnection between two or more separate entities, in which a form of communication is established. this can be between two people, between computers or between anything in which information is exchanged. in other words, it's an abstraction.
in our casual definition of a network, we forget that we've had telephones and telegraphs, radio and so on for much longer than computers have existed. but then, how would one otherwise explain that you could telephone or telegraph someone in the old times?
let's look at the OSI model described in the image. these are the different layers that computer use to interact with each other; each layer functions as an additional overhead to the previous (lower). why so much bother? because while a computer might be able to understand binary input, it wouldn't know where to direct it. for instance, what program would use these bits that were just sent?
you have different protocols in different layers, depending on how specific you want your protocols to be. the internet protocol (IP) is the most widely used protocol, and almost all connections go through it. for other protocols, such as HTTP and TCP, they are overheads in the upper layers that are wired through IP.
with the conception of the IP and its predecessors, the internet really began. but what exactly is the internet?
the internet is a network. it's a huge, global network; but a network nonetheless. there's nothing new about it apart from its scale. what it has, has been done before with e.g. telephones. the internet is often mislabeled as the world wide web, which it isn't. the internet just provides us with the connections between a vast number of computers world wide. it doesn't know what we're doing with the information; it only sees that there are bits flowing from some point to another.
you can't put down the invention of the internet to any one person or group of people. networks of computers happened many places at the same time. it was only logic that they would expand over greater distances. like, how a village would grow into a town, then into a city.
the last question still remains: what is then, the world wide web?
the world wide web (www) is wrongly being accused of being the internet, when in fact the www is a general overhead on top of the internet that allows us to access data more casually. the www is the escapist site, or anywhere the HTTP, FTP, SMTP, POP or similar protocol will take you. what you read here, your email, your blog, your posts, your life and so on.
the world wide web was invented by tim berners-lee, along with his CERN posse of students. but he only created the HTTP overhead in which it was possible for a browser to access a site. you can credit him for being able to have a forum and a discussion here today, and you can read more here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Http target="blank_].
my point here was to show that the internet is just a vast network of computers. the internet as it is today, however, would be nothing if tim berners-lee hadn't created the HTTP protocol which spearheaded internet popularity to what it is today. chances are that without him, the internet would still be restricted to scientists and governments, without allowing casual access through web browsers to the average joe.
Prove it.theklng said:alright, having just had an exam in this, let me explain. but first, take a look at this image:
let me start by asking, what is a network? by definition, a network is an interconnection between two or more separate entities, in which a form of communication is established. this can be between two people, between computers or between anything in which information is exchanged. in other words, it's an abstraction.
in our casual definition of a network, we forget that we've had telephones and telegraphs, radio and so on for much longer than computers have existed. but then, how would one otherwise explain that you could telephone or telegraph someone in the old times?
let's look at the OSI model described in the image. these are the different layers that computer use to interact with each other; each layer functions as an additional overhead to the previous (lower). why so much bother? because while a computer might be able to understand binary input, it wouldn't know where to direct it. for instance, what program would use these bits that were just sent?
you have different protocols in different layers, depending on how specific you want your protocols to be. the internet protocol (IP) is the most widely used protocol, and almost all connections go through it. for other protocols, such as HTTP and TCP, they are overheads in the upper layers that are wired through IP.
with the conception of the IP and its predecessors, the internet really began. but what exactly is the internet?
the internet is a network. it's a huge, global network; but a network nonetheless. there's nothing new about it apart from its scale. what it has, has been done before with e.g. telephones. the internet is often mislabeled as the world wide web, which it isn't. the internet just provides us with the connections between a vast number of computers world wide. it doesn't know what we're doing with the information; it only sees that there are bits flowing from some point to another.
you can't put down the invention of the internet to any one person or group of people. networks of computers happened many places at the same time. it was only logic that they would expand over greater distances. like, how a village would grow into a town, then into a city.
the last question still remains: what is then, the world wide web?
the world wide web (www) is wrongly being accused of being the internet, when in fact the www is a general overhead on top of the internet that allows us to access data more casually. the www is the escapist site, or anywhere the HTTP, FTP, SMTP, POP or similar protocol will take you. what you read here, your email, your blog, your posts, your life and so on.
the world wide web was invented by tim berners-lee, along with his CERN posse of students. but he only created the HTTP overhead in which it was possible for a browser to access a site. you can credit him for being able to have a forum and a discussion here today, and you can read more here [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Http target="blank_].
my point here was to show that the internet is just a vast network of computers. the internet as it is today, however, would be nothing if tim berners-lee hadn't created the HTTP protocol which spearheaded internet popularity to what it is today. chances are that without him, the internet would still be restricted to scientists and governments, without allowing casual access through web browsers to the average joe.
I thought the internet came about throught the need to create protected communication networks in the event of nuclear war. It was developed by the US armed forces as "intra-net" and then I suppose the baton was taken up by private commercial interests in various Western nations (one of which was CERN) in the 80s. But with these inventions you tend to find many different people in different countries were working on the same thing at the same time.
The main inventor of the internet was CERN, but they did by the name grid. But this wasn't the internet as is this. Then was one guy created the hppt protocol (I forgot what his name is but I think he was a american). So in quick answer the internet was created by CERN the protocol http did program by the guy I just can't remember his name.
I know this, the guy is creating a new WEB witch will be different from this one in this way that it won't be censored so full fredom of speech will be possible for everyone.
I know this, the guy is creating a new WEB witch will be different from this one in this way that it won't be censored so full fredom of speech will be possible for everyone.
