Being a Nazi is a conscious choice based upon ideals. Being male is not. If you're honestly telling me that a game featuring a guy going around inflicting ultra violence on women, all of whom are spouting vacuous crap that makes your entire gender look like some kind of inferior species, wouldn't offend you then frankly you're is a considerable minority. There's no need to be insulting just to hide the fact that you have double standards when it comes to sexism. Nobody is denying that women have had a rough time in the past, but so have ethnic minorities, religious minorities, etc, and none have quite so much license to reverse things and get away with it as women do. Sexism is sexism, however you choose to justify it.Sacraca said:Oh and like you don't follow in your ancestors foot steps by playing games reinacting World War 2 because you don't have anything to feel proud of except for the high score of how many Nazis you've killed. Grow up.
Yes, because women the world over are treated equally. AMIRYTE?Carlston said:snip
There's an equal vast difference between getting your own back and shooting people for daring to wolf-whistle at you. Christ, 90% of the guys here would welcome that sort of attention.Labyrinth said:There's a vast difference between complimenting someone and cat-calling.The_root_of_all_evil said:I mean, heaven forbid us awful men telling a woman she looks nice. We all DESERVE to die.
Thing is, the logic you're using there is "Virtual world = Actions in reality." I don't believe the makers, if they did this seriously, condone that. Same with any other game really. It's a cathartic fiction.The_root_of_all_evil said:There's an equal vast difference between getting your own back and shooting people for daring to wolf-whistle at you. Christ, 90% of the guys here would welcome that sort of attention.
I guess when the White Supremacists got their game (Uncharted), radical feminists felt left out.Riobux said:The perfect game for radical feminists.
I can't agree or disagree about the first Uncharted being designed for the KKK; but I can say that Uncharted 2 was seemingly designed for, please don't hurt me, Americans. It was like they wanted to steal every stereotype to ever exist while making America look like the best thing in the world. In the process, making something that is almost the personification of most things wrong with action games.Tom Phoenix said:I guess when the White Supremacists got their game (Uncharted), radical feminists felt left out.Riobux said:The perfect game for radical feminists.
In retrospect, Postal 2 was a horrible game. But even that seemed mildy entertaining compared to this.
What is worse is that this game is insulting towards women as well. Did you notice how the guys, when shot, simply turn into gravestones? It implies that women "can't handle" blood and need to see a "clean" death instead. Considering I have known women who play(ed) FPS games, this seems awfully patronising....
No boasts, but I have. Made me nervous? Yes. Made me want to gun down them for DARING to do it? No.Labyrinth said:Hell, I think one of the reasons that men would consider this socially acceptable is because they've never been on the receiving end.
As I said, that's missing the point of 'fiction'. As for the standards, why lower any at all? Should we accept adults acting like idiots just 'cause? I'd much prefer to lift behaviour than accept it. "boys will be boys" is bullshit.The_root_of_all_evil said:No boasts, but I have. Made me nervous? Yes. Made me want to gun down them for DARING to do it? No.
Not really, fictionally I'd either try and seduce them or blow them a kiss. (Realitywise I'm usually too nervous)Labyrinth said:As I said, that's missing the point of 'fiction'.The_root_of_all_evil said:No boasts, but I have. Made me nervous? Yes. Made me want to gun down them for DARING to do it? No.
But this sort of thing, like numerous other "innovations" are just making the women as much idiots as the men tend to be. Look at the insane increases in drunk and disorderly women, violent attacks etc. We're pushing these fictions as if they were real, and Atkinson/Vaz are using them to keep us down. The defence of this is similar to the defence of Rapeplay in that "it's only a game", but with no positive models towards this sort of behaviour, the first women to shoot a man WILL be blamed on this game, which will then backlash towards all the rest of ours.As for the standards, why lower any at all? Should we accept adults acting like idiots just 'cause? I'd much prefer to lift behaviour than accept it. "boys will be boys" is bullshit.
Oh don't get me wrong, I think this is an absolute piece of shit game with a mistaken premise. However, I don't think that excuses the behaviour.The_root_of_all_evil said: