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RowdyRodimus

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008Zulu said:
Shamus Young said:
They seem to end up in court about as often as often as Princess Peach gets kidnapped.
Oh snap! Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of "people."

I havent been following Activision's stock, but perhaps someone knows what the current value is compared to before all these shenanigins started?
As of the end of trading Friday, they were down .76 (-6.47%) closing at $10.99 a share, and the previous 52 week high was $13.00 and low was $9.93. You'd think that with Starcraft 2 releasing last week theyh would still be riding high which tells me one of two thing; either investors are looking at SC2 as a product that has already shot it's wad or something is up at Activision.
 

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RowdyRodimus said:
As of the end of trading Friday, they were down .76 (-6.47%) closing at $10.99 a share, and the previous 52 week high was $13.00 and low was $9.93. You'd think that with Starcraft 2 releasing last week theyh would still be riding high which tells me one of two thing; either investors are looking at SC2 as a product that has already shot it's wad or something is up at Activision.
Either that they (the stockholders) are no longer 100% confident in Activision's ability to make money. Interesting numbers tho, may be worth further watching.
 

DazBurger

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Im happy not to be American...

Wanna sue me? Too bad! You could try, but wont get anything by trying! HAH!
 

Pingieking

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I'd buy a SimLawsuit game too. I've always wanted to be a total jackass to good people while suffering no reprocussions.
 

SlothfulCobra

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If I ended up on the receiving end of a frivolous lawsuit like that, I'd fight it to the last breath. Not because it's the smart thing to do, not because I thought I would win, but because society only starts correcting such things when someone raises a massive ruckus. It's the principle of the thing god dammit!
 

geldonyetich

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You can sue anyone, at any time, for any reason - as long as you've got the money.

It's pretty cynical, but it's true. Many lawsuits are not launched because the plaintiff thinks they can actually win. They are launched because the plaintiff thinks the defendant will go broke hiring lawyers defending themselves.
Except your former lawyer in an attempt to reduce the bill [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102536-Activision-CEO-Bobby-Kotick-Loses-Lengthy-Legal-Battle], apparently.

Kotick in general is the guy I associate with a lot of these Activision dick moves lately. He's a shrewd businessman whose tactics sour a lot of the fun behind my favorite hobby. He should really speak to EA about how damaging that is for a brand.
 

steeple

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im so going to steal that simlawsuit idea, make a franchise out of it, and when i will have enough money, sue samus from any other idea he might think of, and become even richer, and there is nothing you can do to stop me (cue in evil laughter, perfecting the masterplan)
 

Carlston

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I just wonder, was it really worth it to try and steal, ummm Some guys name who plays paintball?

Not Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Pele, ect...


But a guy who plays paintball... is that that much money in paintball games?

I have to admit, I seen one played but... paintball I wanna play a FPS with a gun that is inaccurate past 4 meters. I play it in the real world and it's fun... but on a pc or console, I'd just play a real shooter.
 

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Pugiron said:
The reason stupid people in these situations do not forgo lawyers and defend themselves is that they are always told "You can't win." Well, you can't win if you do not try and sign a settlement. Defend yourself, drag it out as long as you can, and let the software company, or whoever, spend all they want on lawyers. If the Judge has any business sitting on the bench, he will protect you from just being double-talked to death and look at the merits of the case, rather than how handsome that lawyer they hired is. If you lose, what exactly did you lose that you were not going to lose already? The money they owe you? Go to legalzoom.com or a local lawyer and pay a flat rate to have them draw up a counter suit for you, then help the evil company spend even more money defending against it. For god's sake, convicts do this all the time, hundreds of suits a year, even. Eventually, the company might just pay you to go the hell away, or you might actually win, if you are not dumber than a convicted felon. Are you dumber than a convicted felon?
ah true but as the article says, laywers cost money, lots of money and the people working for you need to be paid.
 

duchaked

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Activision games...I'll be renting and buying their games used
well...that is until Bungie releases their next IP
OH MY GOD that's just devious...
 

T_ConX

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I started boycotting Activision BEFORE it was cool. Yay for me!

But really, the only thing that's going to stop this is a major decline in sales of the 'Over-Hyped Shooter' series and the 'Fill your Living Room With Stupid Plastic Crap' franchise.
 

rembrandtqeinstein

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At this point anyone who does business with activision really only has themselves to blame. It isn't like anyone following the industry doesn't know about their shenanigans.

I look forward to a publisher-free future where all games come directly from developer to player. With digital downloads there is no need for devil deals to secure retail space. All a game needs to succeed is a demo and to be good.
 

MissAshley

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You can sue anyone, at any time, for any reason - as long as you've got the money.
So are West and Zampella not relevant to this life-lesson you learned during the time when dot-com-ers thought themselves invincible, because I think they think they have just as much leverage in their favor as Activision has in theirs and either have the dough to go a few rounds or are cocksure enough to think they'll net a gain.
 

Dogstile

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Why not just make massive fines for companies who are obviously suing on a case that would never win. Or better yet, if the little guy fights and wins, the losing company has to pay all their legal fees.

It has problems, but i am a teenager and i live in an ideal world!
 

Harkwell

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"Keep telling new people about it. Keep making clear just how cancerous they are to the industry. Keep demanding better. An organized internet boycott / petition isn't usually very harmful to a publisher, but having a majority of your customers hate your freaking guts is bad for any business."

Already done. Numerous friends of mine arn't buying Black Ops because of the supposed charging money to play every month.
 

Booze Zombie

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I think the systems for suing people in most countries are broken, might help if they fixed that first, could help.

It does also seem to be an issue of what culture you're from, there's less lawsuits in Britain than America, for instance and there's different rules about said lawsuits as well.

Just my thoughts here, though.
 

Hexenwolf

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Sartan0 said:
This is a case where having a good lawyer review a contract before you sign it is worth avoiding the later (much higher) legal fees or worse losing your creations.

Ounce of prevention pound of cure situation. Educating new and small developers about this would help a great deal. As Shamus says: ( I am paraphrasing) this is the system we have. There are ways to make it work better for you.
You're missing the point. This isn't about them being screwed by a bad contract. This is when people have perfectly reasonable contracts, don't break them, and the big company sues them anyway. The big company should lose from a legal perspective, the only reason they don't is because they have so much money they can get the legal battle to drag on long enough for the small guys to go bankrupt.
 

Vestsao

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That's a pretty big eye-opener for me... I never thought about it that way and it's a comparative disgrace that the judicial system has this glaring flaw yet cannot patch it up. We could always create new legislation prohibiting these sort of actions by big publishers.