Well, I've seen every movie on that list, and I gotta say that the only real problem I have with it is: "The Indiana Jones series". I think most people would agree that Crystal Skull was an abysmal mess. Had that story been made as a non-Indy movie, it would have been even more panned than it was. It played more like a SciFi Original movie...
The Movie Nerd Bible: Part II
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Actually, now I think about it, doesn't "The Thing from Another World" (the original) deserve a place on last weeks list as well? Dated though it may be, it still stands as a great sci-fi film and, although I'm not as good at picking up things like this as, say, Moviebob, it must have influenced something in movie history. Besides, homicidal extra-terrestrial vegetables. 'Nuff said.Susan Arendt said:
Well, thank you, Bob. A well-made list, well-explained, and seemingly-designed to prop up the dedicated, movie-watching nerd's ego. In this, you've admirably succeeded. Again, thanks.
Same here, Indy 4 was never made. It was a fever-dream of some crazy movie producer that talked about making a sequel in the tech-age with wall to wall CG and a shitty actor being the new Indy so much that I think everyone believed it actually happend.cornmancer said:
Talk about the power of suggestion
Can I just say that I don't like Blade Runner? It's an ok movie on its own (not great, but ok), but it's a REALLY bad adaption of Do Androids Dream.
I will echo the need for The Dark Crystal on there. Labyrinth feels mostly like a guilty pleasure these days, but The Dark Crystal is one of the most amazingly fully realised fantasy universes ever put up on screen.Susan Arendt said:
Hmm... Missing from the first list: The Vincent Price Collection, a must see for anyone interested in classic horror, Notable films...
the Original "Last Man On Earth", most recently remade with Will Smith as 'I Am Legend',
"A Comedy of Terrors" one of the early 'serious' blendings of comedy and horror genres,
All of the "Dr Phibes" films, the obvious inspiration for the 'Saw' franchise and way better done,
"Theatre of Tragedy", Shakespeare inspired murder and madness.
I would also like to hear Bob's opinion of a geeky little film about special effects called "The Wizard of Speed and Time".
the Original "Last Man On Earth", most recently remade with Will Smith as 'I Am Legend',
"A Comedy of Terrors" one of the early 'serious' blendings of comedy and horror genres,
All of the "Dr Phibes" films, the obvious inspiration for the 'Saw' franchise and way better done,
"Theatre of Tragedy", Shakespeare inspired murder and madness.
I would also like to hear Bob's opinion of a geeky little film about special effects called "The Wizard of Speed and Time".
Ok, so the lack of Terminator on this list is rather hilarious when you're trying to pass it off as prime examples of influential movies. But even worse, you claim till present and then made an arbitrary cut off date. You simply can't do that, because there are plenty of examples from more recent times that you can't deny were influential. Toy Story? influential as all hell. Matrix series, even if you didn't like them you can not deny the effect the movies had on the industry. Sorry Bob, but you're still not credible as a movie nerd if you can't see that.
There's that little problem. What happens when a good movie is a book adaptation, but doesn't really follow the book? Personally, I've never read the Philip K. Dick story - something which I should rectify - but I still think Bladerunner was a great movie. In the same vein, I first saw the original The Thing movie as a kid and loved it, and still love it today. I read the short story the film is based on in later years, and loved the story too.r0botosaurus said:
Is the original movie a good adaptation of the story? Hell no - in fact, it sucked in that respect. The John Carpenter version was much more faithful to the book; but if you give me the choice of watching either movie, I'm gonna pick the original. I loved the movie on it's own merits, before I realized that it was inspired by John W. Campbell's "Who Goes There?"
So... try to judge the movies on their own merits. Books are always going to be more complex and rich with their hundreds of pages, compared to a movies paltry 120 minutes.
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As far as the Dr. Phibes movies go... it's been a while since I've seen any; but the first movie was great, but I thought the followup (was there more than one? - memory too fuzzy) was a little pained, like it was trying a bit too hard.
2 for 2, still never seen any on this list either 
I've actually at least heard of most of 'em this time though!
I've actually at least heard of most of 'em this time though!
I'm probably repeating something that has already been said, I hope, but:
What the devil? No Mad Max?! What is this?!
What the devil? No Mad Max?! What is this?!
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Personally, I would have that movie redone entirely. Drop the term Blade Runners, Call it "Do Androids Dream?"... bring back and heavily focus on the pantheism [http://electricsheep.org/] Philip K. Dick was alluding to. Lose the enhance [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EnhanceButton] nonsense. Keep the awesome "like tears in the rain" line.ohgodalex said:
Edit: And change the way "the future" looks like away from a bunch of black and glowing red.
I liked dune the move at the time it was big overblown and dark, the scifi mini series suffered form lack of production values and limited budget, but being it was what a 6 or 8 hour mini series vs a 3 hour movie of course it was a better adaptation of a novel.
Scifis children of dune the budget was much better and that was pretty damn good. Wish the first mini series had this productions budget it would have come off even better.
Star trek someone said wrath of kahn was overrated and more nonsensical than the the trek reboot? get back on your meds pal. While star trek as a whole has been a pretty damn bad series with questionable scifi limited budgets and there is a certain amount of rose colored glasses thing going on with the movies period. wrath of kahn is the top of the star trek heap period.
I am not much into horror flicks, but john carpenters "the thing" scared the living hell out of me, even seeing it a few times it never failed to creep you out. only other horror flicks i would put up there is alien, and the remake of invasion of the body snatchers.
Do not get the hate for blade runner. For me blade runner, outlander, and alien were a trilogy of films that could have existed in the same universe. All shared a certain vision of a dark and bleak future. It is near folly to compare any movie to the book is it based on cause the movies always come up short period.
Highlander was a great movie too bad the entirety of the rest of the moves went from bad to worse. maybe that is why it did not make it despite the first being a classic. incidently the anime highlander movie was pretty bad ass.
Scifis children of dune the budget was much better and that was pretty damn good. Wish the first mini series had this productions budget it would have come off even better.
Star trek someone said wrath of kahn was overrated and more nonsensical than the the trek reboot? get back on your meds pal. While star trek as a whole has been a pretty damn bad series with questionable scifi limited budgets and there is a certain amount of rose colored glasses thing going on with the movies period. wrath of kahn is the top of the star trek heap period.
I am not much into horror flicks, but john carpenters "the thing" scared the living hell out of me, even seeing it a few times it never failed to creep you out. only other horror flicks i would put up there is alien, and the remake of invasion of the body snatchers.
Do not get the hate for blade runner. For me blade runner, outlander, and alien were a trilogy of films that could have existed in the same universe. All shared a certain vision of a dark and bleak future. It is near folly to compare any movie to the book is it based on cause the movies always come up short period.
Highlander was a great movie too bad the entirety of the rest of the moves went from bad to worse. maybe that is why it did not make it despite the first being a classic. incidently the anime highlander movie was pretty bad ass.