omega 616 said:
Dunno about America but in the UK trying to buy anything with a blade means you have to be 18+
Which now
applies to teaspoons apparently. For the record, needing an ID to buy anything with a sharp edge sounds insane to us as well.
Why do people want to score home runs? To win the ... match? Game? ... Session?
Same for target shooting.
Still doesn't explain why you give reasonable doubt to Twitchy and Fine Citizen but you don't give it to "Rob your tv" when he breaks in. He breaks in
Which one of these three has just forcefully entered my fucking house?
after your tv, doesn't want anything to do with you but you pull a gun and escalated the situation, now he has a choice, shoot you or get shot ... this has gone from "well I can't watch game of thrones now" all the way to "I sure do miss him".
So, you're saying an unidentified individual who has forced his way into my home for unknown purposes to me,
is armed? In what universe is the reasonable thought process "oh, he's totally just wanting my TV."?
The only answer is, that is your thought process, not mine, nor the thought process of the vast majority of Americans. IF you want to play victim just because you feel it safer, be my guest.
There is an armed intruder in my home, I'm protecting my loved ones.
Sorry but what does anything you just said have anything to do with FPSRussia? I asked what is the difference between you and FPSRussia and you talk about degrees of gun control.
Well, I'm pretty sure he's a nice guy and I'm not sure why you brought him up at all. Something about weapon definitions or something.
That link to everytown was just the first one I found, I saw the number in a few places.
Well, I suggest you check your sources next time because quite a few of those were suicides on campus or shootings that were not school targeted.
Death is a terrible thing? Really?
Well, maybe not terrible if it is natural in the sense that it is a natural part of life, but it is certainly a sad thing and terrible if their life was cut short. But now we're getting mildly religious.
You're willing to kill over a TV and I say that's wrong.
Intruder in my house with a gun.
Secondly, 2 -3 people die per second, every day of the year. People drop like fucking flies, I don't see you (or anybody else) mourning each one ... you'd be suicidal in a week. Death is something that has to be accepted, I've had 3 family members die ... I cried for about a minute over my grandad (the first) then after that it was like telling me they had new carpet installed.
Believe it or not I do mourn many people in different ways. Though, yes. Like above. Death is Life.
We live for a very short time and we are tiny specs, walking on a tiny spec in massive space ... we are literally nothing in the grand scheme. I just think peoples lives shouldn't be cut short 'cos some people like guns.
I hold high value for life, the life of my family and loved ones above all others. You still see this as a problem of guns flying about killing people when it is people who do not value life. Unless you're meaning justified cases of self defense, in which case, we have nothing more to go on about because our opinions clearly differ. What exactly needs to happen for you to take action? At best I can understand "letting" someone steal your things if you're an insane pacifist(by insane I mean extreme). When do you take action? Destruction to your house? Threats to your loved ones? Serious question, would you not step in to defend a loved one against attempted rape? Where do you stop and say "no, I will not allow this to happen, I must take action"? Put yourself in your above described situation and imagine how you'd play it out. Family members in the house along with your most prized belongings.
Well the government is there to look out for the best interests of the country, which means it's citizens.
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I nearly just said to forget my above statement.
So, that's why your government spies on you with our government and vice versa, along with mine in general spying on my people? This is a key difference of philosophy here. US citizens typically recognize that government is, in fact, not there to look out for you. To think such is some degree of actual insanity.
You don't take care of the land, you take care of the people
YEah, no. That often doesn't occur like you think it does.
... go to war to protect them
Or for financial gain
set up trade with other countries to make your's richer
Or, just the government or pockets of politicians
, make your civilians as happy as possible and keep them healthy, like Simcity or city skylines.
I was about to say. You're using utopian vidya logic, and applying it to the real world, where it sadly falls flat on its ass because
the world sucks
So, they enforce policies to take care of you, in most cases ... it's not perfect 'cos people aren't.
Or, it doesn't work that way at all so...
People can be bought and they make compromises, allowing fast food chains to make very unhealthy food, that is almost like a drug. Allowing tobacco and alcohol to be sold etc Alcohol is a good example, tried to ban it 'cos of the effect it has and look what happened.
A shining example of how government does not in fact care about the people. Hell, the cops actively poisoned alcohol during prohibition and
actively killed people. But it's alright, it was illegal booze, right? Totally got the best intentions at heart for Mr. Fine Citizenson.
Like I've said before, gun restrictions are just part of it, you can't just restrict guns and hope it fixes it'self. I think the hole country needs a redesign, from what I've heard from various places.
Certainly not using the UK as a model I hope.
All seriousness, many do agree the US needs overhauls, but it varies on what kinds. Some want a peaceful purge of corrupt politicians, some want Armstrong levels of changes. This is a different matter from gun control.
Hell, such a change would require arms.
Lense-Thirring said:
"No, stop, just feel hopeless and helpless and buy more guns." -NRA
The former is off a fair bit but the latter is about spot on. The NRA in my opinion are gun salesmen, not champions for the Second Amendment.