...I don't even.omega 616 said:Really? I care more for life and I think the world would be a lot better with less people in it.
Well, we care about crime. We don't particularly focus on extremely specific kinds of crimes, like crimes that have some relation to firearms being used, because it'd translate to the UK with knives being used, or even guns still because you guys still have guns floating about, just not as often used.What has been done about gun crime in America? Fuck all, not even talking about gun restrictions, nothing has been done. So you can't care that much.
Actually it is a big deal. Plus, sure, it can be "modernized"(whatever that means), and we as a people have amended and added to it, and we still have left the majority of it unchanged, because we see no reason to change it.The constitution needs to be modernised, it's not like it can't be changed. Though, you guys need to realize, the constitution isn't a big deal ... as a guy from the UK, I know yours better than mine!
So, it's health insurance. That's basically what you're saying. That you pay for in a different way.It basically is free, you can get all kinds of medical treatment that costs WAY more then you'd pay in America for nothing.
No, with all due respect, it's the literal island you live on and you're quite lucky knowing nobody who has not had anything happen to them, because many more are not that lucky, in your own country. You quite possibly live on an island, on an island.It is the world we live in, it's not the world YOU live in. There is a big difference, Nobody I know owns a gun, of any kind and not one of them has had anything bad happen to them ... but no, it is the worlds problem.
So we're just totally ignoring this shooting then?Again with harming you or your family. If somebody came to your home to kill you, you need to be a nicer person 'cos it takes a fair bit of provoking for somebody to want to kill you!
Or the inverse, they don't want to be caught so they use force to prevent being caught.Secondly, if they come to your house to rob you, the last thing they want to do is increase there potential prison time by harming you or anybody.
Not being caught if they do it fast enough? I don't know the logic of someone who disrespects my own rights just so they can get a fix so I wouldn't be able to tell you. But if they want help, they can knock on my door in the daytime and I can help them when I don't have bags in my eyes.Think about it, they want money for drugs or whatever, what do they get for hurting or killing you?
Because Joe Public is everybody so that would of course overlap. People die, that's because individual Joe Public decided to kill people, not the piece of metal/wood/plastic he used to do it. Personal responsibility is a big thing here, and I do not believe you actually believe in it, contrary to what you have said.Not really an opinion, you own and support guns for Joe Public, Joe public is the one doing all the school shootings and gun crime. By arguing against gun control, you're letting this happen. You're an accomplice to it all.
I'd love for American's to realize how they look to outside world.
And I do mean it respectfully to every EU country
0. Alrighty then.Revnak said:Just use a numbered list if you're not going to put in line breaks. I'm on my fucking phone. I have no time to hunt down where your comments end.
1. I'm including cleaning, moving, securing... any time where you even move them. And a lot of people are just collectors, hunts, or shoot for fun. The vast majority of the time a gun is fired, it is not to kill another human being.
2. And you're still handling those guns in a space where you could accidentally shoot someone while you are packing them up. A huge number of gun deaths are accidents or suicides. Far more than spree shootings like these.
3. Stop being so damn technical. They're accidents that could have been prevented were it not for the negligence of the individual handling the gun. Your dull semantics are meaningless.
4. It's not like it's one single chain or anything. I remember a study a while back that found that the vast majority of crimes had come from some small fraction of stores or distributors.
5. Still trivial compared to actual lives and actual crimes. Your paranoia means nothing to me. I don't care.
1. And people that clean, move and secure them tend to follow the basic safety rules of firearms when doing so. If someone is a collector or hunts, they are insanely likely to know these rules and follow them religiously. As for fun, well, most know them but there are... thoooosssee people, that are the source of most of the "accidents".
2. Yes, and that is the fault of the person using the firearm. In one case someone is being stupid, the other someone is using a firearm to end their life. Both are choices of the person. Again, very rarely are unwilling discharges of a firearm actually the fault of the firearm.
3. ...Didn't I just say this? Isn't this my argument?
4. Well then deal with those stores and distributors as most of the time, they know what is going on but want dat phat green.
5. You may not care but the people have spoken. No registration, no touching of our rights by the government. Freedom is not trivial.