Echo136 said:
auronvi said:
Echo136 said:
Actual said:
Echo136 said:
Actual said:
Wonderful how Sony doesn't even need to win the court case, they just need to throw so much money at it that a man can't afford to defend himself.
Love how money can buy the law.
This man fixed a broken product, the PS3, which Sony deliberately broke.
It's like if your car manufacturer turned off the stereo in your car because they were worried some people might use it to play pirated music and then sent you to prison for fixing it!
Thats a stupid example. Stereo's can be easily bought at a radioshack or best buy, and replace the old one LEGALLY. Why does everyone resort to using cars as an example for software piracy.
So he bought a replacement and they sued him, the analogy still works. It doesn't matter how he did it, he restored functionality to a broken product.
A closer to home analogy, Microsoft block internet access from every windows PC because of the fact that pirates use the internet. You bought a windows PC with the expectation that you'd be able to access the internet. You circumvent that you get sued.
No in fact, in real life the example does NOT WORK! Nowadays you dont get in trouble for fixing your own engine. You dont get in trouble for changing your own tires, and you wouldnt get in trouble for replacing the radio and speakers with some nice subwoofers. None of that works. Unless there are roadblocks at every street corner where a company man from the manufacturer checks your car to make sure its still all authentic, its an unrealistic scenario.
You are getting close to understanding what we are talking about but not quite there. I pose a question to you then...
What if they could? What if they had software in every car that could tell exactly what piece of hardware is being used at any one time and then that information is being sent to GM/Ford/Toyota and whenever someone changes it (or hacks it) the police come and take your car away or something? Is that what you want corporations to be able to do to us? Cause that's what we are letting Sony do to us.
Ok, I get the point. Im not thoroughly convinced though that property rights of a car and property rights of a console are in anyway the same, because software rights are involved.
Cars run software too, you know. Besides, how is physically modifying your car different from modding the software on your system. The only reason things like this can happen is that we don't have any clearly defined rights of digital property, only IP laws that were never intended to function on their own (property laws take precedence over IP when dealing with physical property), so whoever has the money and power can basically do whatever they feel like.
With this in mind, how about I amend the hypothetical: The car company sends out a software update that stops you from playing any music in your car, despite the hardware still being intact, because some people play illegally downloaded music in their cars. You hack your car and cause the device to work again, so the corporation sends the police to come and lock you up because you can't afford to fight them in court. Everyone is okay with it because piracy is obviously the only thing anyone would ever want the music player in their car for, and anyone who says otherwise is just a pirate putting on a show. That's what's happening here.
