The perfect murder

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Proctorninja

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PaulH said:
Proctorninja said:
take a person out to international waters then kill and dump overboard, no country has jurisdiction out there
Doesn't mean you can get away with murder o.o It's just bloody hard to extradict you. Whilst the laws of the land override laws of the citizen, if one cannot apply, the other will.
if done right there shouldn't be any signs of a struggle so claiming the person went over the side and drowned seems reasonable and without a body and witnesses they have to go on ur word
 

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Proctorninja said:
PaulH said:
Proctorninja said:
take a person out to international waters then kill and dump overboard, no country has jurisdiction out there
Doesn't mean you can get away with murder o.o It's just bloody hard to extradict you. Whilst the laws of the land override laws of the citizen, if one cannot apply, the other will.
if done right there shouldn't be any signs of a struggle so claiming the person went over the side and drowned seems reasonable and without a body and witnesses they have to go on ur word
Oh ... well yeah that's different .. I thought you meant you could just abduct people, take them on a boat and execute them. Law doesn't work like that.
 

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Van Miranda said:
I completely agree. You never know. There are people out there that may uproar about this topic.

And besides there is no such thing as a perfect crime. Just really good conceald ones that the cops with their forenics team would eventually find out in due time.
Well, Richard Kuklinski would like to disagree with you... he killed over 250 people and was only caught because an undercover cop got him drunk.
 

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BGH122 said:
Tharwen said:
Leave your victim alone for 100 years. It's absolutely failsafe, and no-one could ever suspect anything!
But what if someone cures aging!
http://www.manhattanbeachproject.com/ They will.. Kinda scary, isn't it?
 
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I think the perfect murder would be to go on holiday to another country. Find a random, married person who you have never met in your life. One day you knock on the persons door while they are at work and seduce their partner into having sex with you. You film it and then arrange this film to be shown to the person who was away. You use a tranquilizer on them and hypnotise them into killing their partner. Make sure that the film is not found by police. When the murder happens the hypnotised guy will be found guilty in court as it will just be a paranoid guy killing his wife on suspicion of cheating and you will live to kill another day.

For extra enjoyment, commit this act in a country where they have the death penalty. Double kill!
Better yet, find someone who is a violent alchoholic and skip the hypnosis.

Is it mentally healthy for me to think up these things?
 

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Zeeky_Santos said:
Step one: Kill Hubilub
Step two: Do away with his fans (should be easy)
Step three: ??
Step four: Profit
Step five: Everyone loves Zeeky again!
Your plan has one fatal flaw!

By doing away with my fans, you must do away with the entire universe!

There would be nobody left to love you!

OT: I'd let Zeeky do what he planned, then he will kill himself out of loneliness.

IT'S FUCKING FOOLPROOF!
 
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TestECull said:
Pretty simple, really.


Step 1: Take your mark on a cruise out into the ocean. Preferrably in a private boat from a private dock.
Step 2: Sail into the ocean, passing the ruse that you're just out enjoying the ocean with a 'friend'. Once you pass into international waters, proceed to step 3.
Step 3: Restrain mark, including a gag. Ensure all of their personal effects are secured.
Step 4: add weights to ensure they sink
Step 5: Shove overboard
Step 6: Adjust your tie, drop a one liner, and return home. Providing the weights stay attached they will never even know your mark is dead. And even if they did find out you did it in international waters. Out of jurisdiction.
Wouldn't someone quickly report the victim missing?, leading to an investigation tracing back to you, the only person with them when they vanished?
 

Gizmo007666

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jawg_t-j said:
i knew csi was lieing to me
It wasn't, assuming it was CSI and not another tv show that I'm thinking of they explained that you would never be able to get someone to just kill themselves through hypnosis. However if they were made to believe that they were going for a swim in the pool and the balcony on the was the diving board then you could get them to unintentionally kill themselves
 

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Gizmo007666 said:
jawg_t-j said:
i knew csi was lieing to me
It wasn't, assuming it was CSI and not another tv show that I'm thinking of they explained that you would never be able to get someone to just kill themselves through hypnosis. However if they were made to believe that they were going for a swim in the pool and the balcony on the was the diving board then you could get them to unintentionally kill themselves
cool now i understand thankyou.
 

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ProfessorLayton said:
Van Miranda said:
I completely agree. You never know. There are people out there that may uproar about this topic.

And besides there is no such thing as a perfect crime. Just really good conceald ones that the cops with their forenics team would eventually find out in due time.
Well, Richard Kuklinski would like to disagree with you... he killed over 250 people and was only caught because an undercover cop got him drunk.

Yay for the undercover cop! But that proves the point doesn't it. Eventually he got caught. Though, I must admit there have been crimes that do go unsolved only because of lack of evidence or technology.
 

Nukey

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Well...

The perfect murder is, when thinking about it, impossible to achieve. There are just too many variables to account for, not to mention the random chance that something might go wrong. However, the closest a murder could get to being "perfect" is when all evidence points away from the perpetrator and towards someone who seems more likely to have committed the crime. For example, if a foe of the wo/man happens to be moving away, kill the victim a few days before they leave, it'll make it seem like the foe did it. To make it seem more like they did, kill the victim with something the "foe" has access to or, if possible, something that belongs to them.

It also helps if you have no connection to the victim whatsoever, as authorities tend to investigate those closest to them.
 

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BGH122 said:
Here's Steve's: Rent an apartment across from the victim and wait for an icicle to form outside your window. When it does, use it as an arrow and shoot the victim with a bow through their window. The ice arrow will quickly melt upon killing its target and the police won't find a murder weapon.
Well you would obviously be the first suspect if you were there when ice could form, as it would be to short of intervals between your legal arrival and the killing, or the kill would take way to long waiting for the ice to make it efficient if you weren't there in the winter, so not a very good idea. Also, shooting icicles with a bow is really difficult.

Mine would be depending on the target, but if I had to pick, I would replace someone's diabetes medication with high dosage sugar pills. And if they do find my fingerprints, then I just say that I thought about buying them but then put it back when my friend already had picked one up.
 

ajh93

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OK,so you cook the soon-to-be-murdered dinner every night for however long it takes,but don't let anyone know you are cooking for them.then when they trust you,you slowly begin adding small amounts of powdered glass in their food,mixing it in real thorough like.do this for a few weeks or month or so,and they should internally bleed to death.then dispose of the body.personally i like burning them in empty oil drums down by the bay where the homeless live to it just looks like they're cooking beans,or what have you.
but then,that's just me ;P
 

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Create a feud between one person and another, if the target is married then begin by planting suspicions into the wife's head that her husband is cheating, once the feud is significantly fueled make them break into a proper fight, knock both of them out and kill the target with a knife (wearing gloves of course, no fingerprints), leave the knife in the other persons hands and spread blood on their clothes, hide the body in a bin bag and leave it in the other persons house and before that put the other person (OP) in their bed and leave them to discover the knife and clothes in their drawer.

When the detectives come in, work closely with the detectives to avoid them picking up any clues it was you and make sure all the clues lead to the OP, the OP will think that they did it and try to frantically get rid of the body and make people think they are acting suspiciously, thus creating the perfect suspect.
 

sumanoskae

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Indirect manipulation. Convince them to kill themselves by befriending them and screwing up their life from the inside. Or get someone else to do it

Alternatively, I suggest piano wire as a murder weapon, it leaves no blood and it's quiet. If there's a meat processing factory nearby, that might make a good dumping site
 

Mikeyfell

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go over to your victim's house
put "Kane and Lynch 2: Dog Days" in their console and glue it shut
then sneak out
they'll kill them selves eventually.
 

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BGH122 said:
I was listening to the XFM vault [http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Xfm_Shows] of the Ricky Gervais and Steve Merchant Show yesterday and they got onto discussing the perfect murder. So what would you Escapists' perfect murder be?

Here's Steve's: Rent an apartment across from the victim and wait for an icicle to form outside your window. When it does, use it as an arrow and shoot the victim with a bow through their window. The ice arrow will quickly melt upon killing its target and the police won't find a murder weapon.
One of my gun expert friends suggested something similar. Using a pneumatic ice gun. It'd work great and you'd never know who fired it.