The real reason Halo was/is so popular
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And that's fine. I know alot of people who liked the Call of Duty games for the main reason that you WEREN'T anyone special, you were just some guy in the war.nikomas1 said:
Elurindel is right, the Master Chief is not the original Space Marine. I'm pretty uneducated about this kind of stuff, and even I know that Warhammer 40k had space marines first. Maybe not with shields, but certainly in super-powered suits. I'm sure there are plenty more, but as I said: I don't know much about it.Elurindel said:
of perhaps it was the only game remotely playable on the original xbox and people needed something to justify their purchase? it's not a bad game, just not as spectacular as all those loud mouthed 13 year olds who swear online and try to teabag you would have you believe
you mean that you are simply A soldier in Call of duty? who seems to do EVERYTHING from mowing down a horde of enemies to riding tanks, calling airstrikes, blowing stuff up, going everywhere first ( or as i know it Medal of Honour Syndrome), being there to make everything better when the preverbial hits the fan, setting up the tent and feeding the cat.
and i do belive that Master Cheif being THE soldier is pretty old by now, the Space Marine in Doom was THE soldier. And just about every guy (or Gal) you play in any FPS is THE soldier. after all you are nigh on invincible and if you do die you stand back up and do it all over again. That's the reason games like Starwars Battlefront are good because you could just sit there and let the A.I do everything.
and i do belive that Master Cheif being THE soldier is pretty old by now, the Space Marine in Doom was THE soldier. And just about every guy (or Gal) you play in any FPS is THE soldier. after all you are nigh on invincible and if you do die you stand back up and do it all over again. That's the reason games like Starwars Battlefront are good because you could just sit there and let the A.I do everything.
Haha I loved Call of Duty 4 (for the reasons in my original post) and I did find it kind-of odd that I was just some low-ranking soldier who tended to given alot of important tasks from always taking the first shot, to calling in air-strikes, to always being handed the big heavy important guns. And yet I was never thanked for it or promoted or something.Spudgun Man said:
"Medal of Honor Syndrome" <- Can I use that?
Your point has some merit. I would argue that the main reason Halo is popular is that it was one of the first games to show that consoles can have a good FPS experience. The control scheme, the added online multiplayer in Halo 2 and so on. Combine that w/ the high quality of the games themselves and you have a recipe for success.
He is not THE soldier, he is THE MASTER CHIEF. Wanna know the difference? Doomguy or any of the people from Call of Duty or MoH realistically could not do all the shit that they do in those games. MC is different, he is a hero and is expected to be the super soldier of doom that does all the cool stuff to save the day. Its more believeable than say the Russian Soldier from CODWaW (Dimitri? Although it was damn cool) killing everything and winning warsSpudgun Man said:
Sorry you've lost me. A guy that has been superglued inside a green peice of plastic, given a quite frankly stupid name and had a gun thrusted into his hands and claimed king of the Noob Nations is more of a hero than some civilian given a gun fighting for their lives in a desperate attempt not to be curb stomped.RAKais said:
I'll admit that I am not a rabid FPS player. The only reason I even looked at, and enjoyed, Halo was because I've had a raging stiffy for Bungie's games since they first started making them for the PC and Macintosh back in the 90s.
What drew me to Halo initially was the fact that it is set in the same universe as Bungie's Marathon series. My theory that it would prove just as enjoyable in the single and multi-player areas was proved correct (although I consider the story VASTLY inferior to Marathon's).
And while it is true that Halo did not introduce us to the "lone-marine-saving-the-world" gaming cliche (gotta give props to Doom and Quake for that), it certainly brought some new elements in. Mainly the regenerating shield/health thing that needs to be traded for good ol health meters.
Even though Halo did not give us an interesting main character (c'mon, he's an emotionally and personality devoid faceless suit of armor whose name is actually a military rank), it did give those who actually liked it a nice online experience and pretty solid gameplay for single or co-op play.
My eternal beef with this series, and the reason I am no longer on XBL, is the fanbase itself. As several others have noted, the fans are damn annoying. I'm not going to list why since I'd just be re-stating what has already been said.
My main point: give props to the series for what it brought to the FPS genre. To me, it's a decent FPS, not the greatest, but certainly not hate-worthy.
What drew me to Halo initially was the fact that it is set in the same universe as Bungie's Marathon series. My theory that it would prove just as enjoyable in the single and multi-player areas was proved correct (although I consider the story VASTLY inferior to Marathon's).
And while it is true that Halo did not introduce us to the "lone-marine-saving-the-world" gaming cliche (gotta give props to Doom and Quake for that), it certainly brought some new elements in. Mainly the regenerating shield/health thing that needs to be traded for good ol health meters.
Even though Halo did not give us an interesting main character (c'mon, he's an emotionally and personality devoid faceless suit of armor whose name is actually a military rank), it did give those who actually liked it a nice online experience and pretty solid gameplay for single or co-op play.
My eternal beef with this series, and the reason I am no longer on XBL, is the fanbase itself. As several others have noted, the fans are damn annoying. I'm not going to list why since I'd just be re-stating what has already been said.
My main point: give props to the series for what it brought to the FPS genre. To me, it's a decent FPS, not the greatest, but certainly not hate-worthy.
You're giving favorable odds to a crowbar wielding theoretical physicist fighting the guy that didDeusFps said:
If you happen to not recognize this I'd say you shouldn't be judging the Halo series at all.
It's actually not, a quick glance at any in-universe dates would tell you that. They're just similar universes.Neflame said:
What?Spudgun Man said:
Anyway, there is no real reason why Halo is popular. There are several different ones and each appeals to different people.
Erm...Im really sorry but you are being a douchebag.Spudgun Man said:
Master Chief AKA John 117 was taken as a child with 75 other children, trained until they were adults and the height of military training and perfection then genetically enhanced so they could USE the suits to give humanity a good chance at defeating the covenent.
He is a master of every weapon, vehicle and unarmed combat.
His 'stupid' name is actually a military (navy I think) rank.
If you could even be bothered reading up on stuff, he has fought for his life and thousands others on more than one occasion. In the Halo universe, he is the greatest hero humanity has and their only chance. So yeah, he is more of a hero than a normal civilian.
What I was trying to say is that a SPARTAN is more believeable as a hero who singlehandedly wins wars than a normal, easily killed soldier.
I personally feel that the reason the Halo series is so popular is because when it came out for the original X-Box the amount of decent games was lacking so any game that looked good was pushed as much as possible and the x-box fans just went along to avoid the "x-box has no good games" arguement. However somewhere along the line people started believeing the hype and it's stuck.
