The School system

[Zersy]

There are many things i can say about it

but one thing that keeps coming up on EVERY website i go to

is that it needs to be changed, now i fully support the fact that we have a shit school system and that the goverment are retards now and will go with any method necssary to make them listen for once

but i want to go in a litte more detail

we all know it needs changing

(Do yourself a favour and go onto UrbanDictionary.com right now and look up School then look up Homework then continue you read this)

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now first off all no kids care about their education and i support them for that because naturally it's human nature to want to learn and have interest in new things if you don't believe me go back in time and look how intrested people were in maths and Science

and if human nature is not going accordingly then something is REALLY WRONG !

so i want to know what should be done ?

in detail as well ...

here's my personal idea's

my idea would be make learning fun again ,,this is not hard at all really ,How many of you like learning facts that you didn't know about ?,,,,,,,,, see what i mean.

change the timing of school because 6 1/2 hours a day IS WAY TOO F$%KING much

increase social interaction between students (reason is too obvious)

and the rest i'll leave up to you to decide how we should fix our education system

(there is a 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000023 % chance this will make a differance to soceity)

 

[Abedeus]

Looking at your posts, poor grammar and chaotic usage of the Enter key, I say 6 and 1/2 hours a day is too little.

Also, using capitalized letters in the middle of a sentence... Hmm. Erratic.


Fun learning? You can either learn fun, or learn well. You can't combine them. If you think you can, you are delirious.

 

[Inverse Skies]

The school system isn't that bad. Children do need to be educated and learn moral and social values somewhere.

 

[Lord George]

Which system is this anyway the US system or another countries, because apparently the US's one is totally screwed up

 

[Zersy]

The school system isn't that bad. Children do need to be educated and learn moral and social values somewhere.

I figure those things out by the age of 11

 

[Chickenlittle]

The school system isn't that bad. Children do need to be educated and learn moral and social values somewhere.

This is true, though they could make it a bit more enticing to the kids themselves.

Even in high school, I personally didn't have much reason to get up and go there, other than the fact that "I was supposed to". The youth needs motivation, which they don't have right now, and motivation to actually do the work.

 

[Zersy]

Which system is this anyway the US system or another countries, because apparently the US's one is totally screwed up

It's mainly US but the UK one seems to also be falling
not sure about you Aussies though

and lets keep the Europeans out of this

 

[Inverse Skies]

This is true, though they could make it a bit more enticing to the kids themselves.

Even in high school, I personally didn't have much reason to get up and go there, other than the fact that "I was supposed to". The youth needs motivation, which they don't have right now, and motivation to actually do the work.

It depends. I had plenty of motivation because I wanted to get a good ENTER score (score received upon completing your final year of school and is used for tertiary placement) so I had to study hard. But yes, I'm kind of the exception. I can understand why most people don't find school stimulating or enjoyable, but I'm at a loss as to ideas of how to fix such a problem.

 

[scarbunny]

change the timing of school because 6 1/2 hours a day IS WAY TOO F$%KING much

I hope your joking when you say this but looking at the rest of your post I fear not. You realise that when you entre the real world, and by that I mean when you graduate from school, you will have to work around 8 hours a day, if not more. I'm currently working around 60 hours a week, that’s almost 10 of your "WAY TOO F$%KING" long school days in one week.

However looking at what you have written and the manner with which you have done it I would say that doing a full days work is a hardship that is never going to trouble you.

However to answer your thread the problem with education is the lack of control a teacher has over his/her pupils, bring back the cane/slipper/whatever and you'll see a drastic increase in standards

 

[Beffudled Sheep]

change the timing of school because 6 1/2 hours a day IS WAY TOO F$%KING much

I hope your joking when you say this but looking at the rest of your post I fear not. You realise that when you entre the real world, and by that I mean when you graduate from school, you will have to work around 8 hours a day, if not more. I'm currently working around 60 hours a week, that’s almost 10 of your "WAY TOO F$%KING" long school days in one week.

However looking at what you have written and the manner with which you have done it I would say that doing a full days work is a hardship that is never going to trouble you.

However to answer your thread the problem with education is the lack of control a teacher has over his/her pupils, bring back the cane/slipper/whatever and you'll see a drastic increase in standards

I say that we should use a chainsaw instead of a cane.

 

[Nimbus]

Well, the Irish education system has more holes in it that swiss cheese that has already been eaten. Seriously, look it up.

 

[Ken Korda]

Looking at your posts, poor grammar and chaotic usage of the Enter key, I say 6 and 1/2 hours a day is too little.

Also, using capitalized letters in the middle of a sentence... Hmm. Erratic.


Fun learning? You can either learn fun, or learn well. You can't combine them. If you think you can, you are delirious.

Zing!

change the timing of school because 6 1/2 hours a day IS WAY TOO F$%KING much

I hope your joking when you say this but looking at the rest of your post I fear not. You realise that when you entre the real world, and by that I mean when you graduate from school, you will have to work around 8 hours a day, if not more. I'm currently working around 60 hours a week, that’s almost 10 of your "WAY TOO F$%KING" long school days in one week.

60 hours a week! That's insane and also illegal in Europe. You crazy foreigners.

 

[S.H.A.R.P.]

Relying on personal experience, I think that there is at least one flaw in the current system. That flaw is the lack of motivation from children to learn for their own future, and more specifically, the lack of emphasis from the school that the children are learning for their own good.

I'm not quite sure if children are willing or even capable of thinking that far ahead, but nowadays they just don't seem to be realising that they are building the blocks for their own future. Perhaps when children start to realize that it is for their own sake that they're going to school, instead of a burden, they will get more motivated in return.

Realizing this may be difficult of course. Perhaps if children get more in touch with the world and it's professions through for example intern ship at a young age, and teachers provide a connection between those professions and the things children learn at school, then they might start to realize that the things they learn are not for nothing.

If that fails, chainsaws sound good too.

 

[Danzaivar]

My gripe with schooling is it doesn't actually teach you anything relevant for your future career/life in general.

I get maths and science is the stuff we should all know, but would it kill them to have some lessons on cooking and cleaning? A bit about setting up bank accounts or at least a MENTION of tax returns and the like?

I've got friends who work full time that are in their early 20's who still don't know what interest rates are, or how voting works, or how to use a washing machine (among many other simple things like that). I get that it's boring, and parents should teach you that stuff, but there should be some of it mentioned if school is really meant to get you prepared for the real world.

 

[JMeganSnow]

I don't think we should have an education "system". No educational paradigm is perfect for everyone and as it stands we just have a factory for government propaganda and indoctrination. If you want to send your kids to school, pay for it yourself. They have private schools in India that cost approx. 10 cents a day. You don't need a big building and fancy equipment to get a perfectly acceptable education, all you need are books and adults to talk to.

I, personally, would never succeed in a school where "student interaction" was somehow enforced--I'm a loner and I like it that way. Why should I be held down to the level of everyone else's incompetence?

 

[Ancientgamer]

The school stystem works in theory, under the assumption that all kids wish to learn and have a perfect attitude, sure, it serves it's purpose of learning academically just fine. But social skills go down the tube.

The School system's social paradigm is largely responsible in the way new generations are almost always increasingly divergent now. The inherent problem is that, beyond academics, through their whole lives, children are learning how to behave, developing their tastes and personality, based on their peers. They're essentially learning from people who don't know anything better than they do. Also, school social dynamics is nothing like the real world. The one thing it resembles most, is prison. The similarities are almost frighting when examined together.

Academically, it's faulty because it's so big, good student are held down to the average, bad students are pushed along through courses they don't even know. There's no individuality and the overall potential of students is undermined. The Idea of public schools was born from the industrial revolution, the Idea of an assembly line for humans, so to speak. However, just like real assembly lines, while you may get conformity, the overall quality and attention to detail drops.

There's many little, more specific problems in the school system. Frankly though, I think the social and behaivorial problems are currently the most damaging to society.

 

[asinann]

Stop your whining, they need to EXPAND on school hours if the do anything to them because obviously the kids aren't learning what they need to or gaining the life skills needed to hold down even so much as a Mcjob.

 

[sky14kemea]

the UK one doesnt seem to be working, but not for the reasons you said
my secondary school only lasted 6 hours, they took half an hour off, and our school had some of the lowest test results in the country at one point >_<

 

[Ancientgamer]

Stop your whining, they need to EXPAND on school hours if the do anything to them because obviously the kids aren't learning what they need to or gaining the life skills needed to hold down even so much as a Mcjob.

As I said, not learning life skills is a problems inherent in the system. so is a lack of dedication, even if you shove more hours down their throats, they'll handle it the same way. And it won't accomplish anything more than putting a strain on the students and the budget.

 

[thiosk]

The school system is bad, but it mostly comes down to a problem of parents and government.

Parents don't want to discipline their kids.
Parents don't want anyone else to discipline their kids.
The government, as you said, is retarded.

Throw all that together, and you have a bunch of entitled little pricks who have run of their public facilities.

Put everyone in uniforms, bring back the ruler wrist slaps, and take away all concepts that children need to express themselves. They can do that in art class. By the way, the government controlled schools should stop cutting art classes.

Disagree? Thats fine, I expect many of you to, as over 60% of the population here is still in school. But, you can't hardly turn on the TV without hearing about pregnancy pacts, people fingering eachother in the stairwells, and beatings in the schools we pay an exorbitant amount of money for.

And seriously six and a half hours is not too much. I can see starting class at 10 instead of 730 - 8 but to ***** about length is pretty stupid.