The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[Prtyclever1337]

Just putting this out there... Doug doesn't run Channel Awesome. Quite the opposite. Channel Awesome owns TGWTG, which is Doug's website. He may have some input, but the final decision comes to the guys at Channel Awesome.

And I also think this is all less about the rape joke, and more about the fact that Spoony is a GIANT egotistical asshole who has no respect for any one except himself. He insults his fans, his coworkers, and total strangers for things like TRYING TO START A CONVERSATION. This goes beyond Lupa, it's Spoony's lack of control and ego that got him fired.

And I've been a fan of Spoony since 2008. I remember in one of his commentaries, in like 2009 or 2010, and he was watching one of his older videos and he said "Oh, wow... I just told the audience 'fuck you!'". He said that in a way which implied he SHOULDN'T have said that, because that's not how you treat your audience and fans.

But now he tells his fans to fuck off on a daily basis. Dude's off his fucking rocker.

 

[Instinct Blues]

What was the reaction from the TGWTG crew to Lupa bringing up something completely irrelevant way in the past, to someone that is obviously struggling with serious mental issues, just to kick him when he's down (and obviously push him over his limits)? Regardless of how Spoony behaved after he was poked, prodded and bullied into losing control, surely that kind of behavior is considered a pretty reprehensible thing to do?

I don't think Spoony was pushed and prodded into losing control. If you've paid attention to his twitter at all over the past couple of months you'd be able to see he was becoming quite unhinged all on his own. Not taking any sides because from what I've seen everyone involved is partly responsible. I don't think Lupa masterminded some plan to get Spoony fired that's some conspiracy theory bullshit.

I think it's that they didn't really get along, but they had to interact in the workplace so they both tried to be civil to each other. Then Spoony comes along with all of these misogynistic comments on his twitter and she just can't take it anymore. I read her tweet in response to one of Spoony's more jackass tweets that said something to the effect of "Seriously dude I can't follow you anymore." To which Spoony replied (since he's not too good at taking criticism) with an abundance of anger that wasn't necessary.

Also to those who are giving Spoony a free pass because he's been diagnosed with depression aren't helping him at all. Just because you have a mental problem doesn't mean that you can just say whatever the hell you want. I mean he can say whatever he wants because we have the freedom of speech, but the doesn't mean he can't be fired, yelled at, or generally disliked for what he is saying. And if you've seen his twitter recently you'd be disgusted with what hateful things he's been saying.

 

[Rednog]

If thats the case we may end up seeing a nice change when Doug returns. By that i mean a few abusive producers fired, an abusive HR rep fired, & Spoony rehired. Course that's all if this is true. Frankly i would have to say most of it is. Took some doing but the twitter feeds(blasted hellscape though they be) points to wrongdoing by Lupa for whatever reason. Seeing as she started this war with a comment about a joke from a while back & now is now acting like she never commented on it, this Looks bad.

Or because Doug Walker is a business man, and Channel Awesome is his business, he might side with Lupa. In the last 12 months, Spoony has made less than 20 videos that made it onto Channel Awesome. In that same time Lupa managed to get out 50 videos to the site. One generates a big pop in revenue when his videos get on to the site. The other generates a more consistent revenue. Spoony may be more popular than Lupa, but from a purely business standpoint, Lupa is the person you keep.

Also, regardless any power plays or hidden agendas you see from Lupa, Spoony is not entirely blameless in this. He could have accepted his Channel Awesome 30 days suspension like a man.

I'm not sure on the details, but Channel Awesome did host Spoony's website. I'd be surprised if they weren't getting something from all the revenue it brought in.

 

[GrimSheeper]

I'm just sad to see one of my favorite reviewers on the internet tear himself apart like he is doing. Noah Antwiler needs a lot of help from a professional and I wish it didn't have to spiral out of control like this. Maybe he will get help, maybe he even actually does already. I don't know. I just see a man wrecked with depression destroying himself while others stand by or point fingers at him. I also see TGWTG worrying about income, as it is a business and those people need to make the money they do to continue providing us with content, and one of them reacting this violently to the fans that make them money is unacceptable.

And then it just gets difficult, as Spoony needs all the understanding he can get for his depression, but shouldn't have access to Twitter in the first place, the last thing he needed was a way to project his rage and sadness out to hundreds of thousands of people, while I find it rushed to fire him for being angry and irrational at fans. That's how you are when you are depressed, in the middle of a breakthrough and angry at yourself and everyone in the world, even trying to help will cause a backlash. And it doesn't even seem necessary, twitter is just a website. A website with huge user base and lots of impact online, but it's not like Spoony drove to the people he tweeted angry things at to punch them in the face. It was a sad, angry man lashing out and people wouldn't leave him alone. Which then shone a bad light on Channel Awesome... I wish live wasn't a freaking soap opera, I love the reviews on Channel Awesome, just as I watch Brad Jones website and the Spoony Experiment, it pains me to hear this, it really does. I want Spoony to do better, to return to pushing out videos regularly and loving his work, he is a talented reviewer that has some deep personal issues in need of resolving and I fear that it wasn't handled in a very nice way by Channel Awesome. It was handled professionally though, cut losses, ensure the website can continue without blemishes, which isn't really what I would have done.

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You know what depression is and that it requires a lot of effort to work through it then. I agree that it's hard to continue following him when there is nothing to follow, but I don't want him to produce some halfway funny stuff and destroy himself even more. I rather he doesn't do anything online for half a year, shuts down his Twitter, facebook, website and what have you and goes into therapy.

That would be better than forcing him to do half-assed videos that aren't funny just because we fans want him on our screen. I want the Noah Antwiler that received an award for being funny, not a sad, haggart and depressed Spoony that is just raging at the camera because he is angry, not because it's funny.

 

[Azaradel]

Wow, Jason has a bit of an ego about him, doesn't he?

It certainly seems so, yeah.

I assume Phelous is standing with Lupa on this, obviously, but could anyone confirm this for me? Or has he not commented on it at all?

Phelan is acting like a mature adult about thi--- oh wait.
Phelous:
Also guess fucking what? You don't need to be female to find a stupid ass male's misogyny offensive.

Yeah, he's acting like a complete shithead because not everyone agreed wholeheartedly with his lovely girlfriend deliberately winding up a crazy man just to watch him snap like a rubber band.

 

[malestrithe]

The suspension doesn't seem to be the problem. The problem was CA effectively censoring Spoony telling him he wasn't allowed to attack fans or his fellow coworkers... which ya know is kinda spoony-being-spoony. It's like when the big studios hired John Woo to direct Hard Target and then when they sat down and watched the flick the studio heads where all "Whats with all the birds? Why does it take that many bullets to kill a guy?"

There is a difference between being highstrung and being downright mean. Look at some of his earlier video reviews, you will see highstrung spoony. He was talking about the games or movies in a friendly manner. His review of FFTA2 is a good example of this. He was annoyed by it, but did not lose his temper. When he got mad at his fans, he talked about them in general. He did not go out of his way to single out one or two of them.

If that's the spoony you like, then you can have him.

Also, enough with the analogies. They do not work to explain your position. It actually hinders it.

 

[malestrithe]

Dunno, anger can be a great motivator. Also as bad as this chaos is for those worried about "image", it's made Spoony the most watched guy right now. It's like when Matt Hardy got legit fired because of the whole Lita cheating on him with Edge thing. Matt Hardy was the hottest property then, you couldn't turn watch an episode of RAW with out hearing the fans chant his name.

If Spoony plays his cards right things could work out better for him.

It could be, but it is a destructive one.

 

[The Night Shade]

Poor spoony i think he is a great person with an extreme personality and his videos are hilarious so i hope that he gets better if he is suffering depression. Also I only watch NC, the cinema snob and spoony i don't really care for anyone else so i can't comment on the other members but the site is a business they receive money for each video they make and if something is damaging the business (in this case Spoony) they have to fix it.

Edit: Chill the fuck down this is the internet everyone can claim whatever the hell they want and passed it off as true so think before blindly believing in someone.

 

[Moderated]

I never watched his show anyway, but I see that it was just a joke. I notice that people said that the person who the joke was said about is staying out of it, and it was just one of her friends trying to tear down someone she doesn't like. It seems like she is the ***** in this situation.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

I think the "old school" part might ultimately be the reason why I like him.
This entire clusterfuck could have been avoided with some "old school" shit like manners, respect and restraint.

And if everyone wants to be a special, rude, edgy snowflake, the only guy who ends up being special and noteworthy is the dude sticking to rules and etiquette.

Wow... That's actually pretty thought provoking when you think about it.

Mind if I quote you on this, good sir?

 

[malestrithe]

I don't know if you noticed, but Spoony is not 100% sane. Clinical depression from losing his job last year, his girlfriend going 1984 with his forum, her cheating in him then leaving him. The man got hit rough by all that and spent half the year off from making videos. He is fairly blameless in my opinion. Why? Because i have friends like them. When presented with criticism from multiple sources they lash out. Smart people turn into neanderthals in the blink of an eye. They will not listen to friends & they lose self preservation on the social level. That behavior only gets worse when they are not in a good way when it started. He could have accepted the ban like a man, had it not been for what he had always done. his Twitterfeed is a massive landscape of self loathing, self deprecating jokes, and joking-hate spewed at fans. I would have to shift most blame to Lupa because she is the one that went and antagonized him. Fortunately i think his brother took his twitter privileges away, he hasn't posted in a while.

I would still side with Lupa until Spoony gets the help he needs.

Sane or not, he still has to own up to actions. Also, I have clinical depression and I've done everything that you defend spoony for. Similar things happened to me: My Girlfriend of 11 years dumped me. I had lost my job too. I had to leave school because I let my temper get the better of me and a situation got bad. My mom died. You know why I'm not a hate filled ball of rage? I got the help I needed and I am on some powerful medication.

Guess what happened in my case: I still had to own up to my actions and accept the consequences of them. I have to spend the rest of my life rebuilding the friendships I destroyed, as well as some of my reputation. Regardless of me being in the mindset or not, I still did them. Spoony is no different just because he's spoony.

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

I don't know if you noticed, but Spoony is not 100% sane. Clinical depression from losing his job last year, his girlfriend going 1984 with his forum, her cheating in him then leaving him. The man got hit rough by all that and spent half the year off from making videos.

Just curious, because it keeps popping up.
Has he ever confirmed that he´s depressive ?
It´s not that I necessarily doubt it, it´s just that the internet as an entity has a shit track-record when it comes to diagnosing psychosis.
And you can be angry and self-destructive without being depressive.

I think the "old school" part might ultimately be the reason why I like him.
This entire clusterfuck could have been avoided with some "old school" shit like manners, respect and restraint.

And if everyone wants to be a special, rude, edgy snowflake, the only guy who ends up being special and noteworthy is the dude sticking to rules and etiquette.

Wow... That's actually pretty thought provoking when you think about it.

Mind if I quote you on this, good sir?

I guess.
Might make my advisor happy. Keeps bugging me about how little my work gets cited in non-internal papers.....

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

I don't know if you noticed, but Spoony is not 100% sane. Clinical depression from losing his job last year, his girlfriend going 1984 with his forum, her cheating in him then leaving him. The man got hit rough by all that and spent half the year off from making videos.

Just curious, because it keeps popping up.
Has he ever confirmed that he´s depressive ?
It´s not that I necessarily doubt it, it´s just that the internet as an entity has a shit track-record when it comes to diagnosing psychosis.
And you can be angry and self-destructive without being depressive.

I think the "old school" part might ultimately be the reason why I like him.
This entire clusterfuck could have been avoided with some "old school" shit like manners, respect and restraint.

And if everyone wants to be a special, rude, edgy snowflake, the only guy who ends up being special and noteworthy is the dude sticking to rules and etiquette.

Wow... That's actually pretty thought provoking when you think about it.

Mind if I quote you on this, good sir?

I guess.
Might make my advisor happy. Keeps bugging me about how little my work gets cited in non-internal papers.....

He made a pretty long post on his site a while back when he was barely releasing videos.

I think it was back in November or maybe October of last year. Anyway, he clearly states that he's just been diagnosed with serious depression, but that it's not the cause of being "too sad" or something. I'll try to find it.

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

I don't know if you noticed, but Spoony is not 100% sane. Clinical depression from losing his job last year, his girlfriend going 1984 with his forum, her cheating in him then leaving him. The man got hit rough by all that and spent half the year off from making videos.

Just curious, because it keeps popping up.
Has he ever confirmed that he´s depressive ?
It´s not that I necessarily doubt it, it´s just that the internet as an entity has a shit track-record when it comes to diagnosing psychosis.
And you can be angry and self-destructive without being depressive.

I think the "old school" part might ultimately be the reason why I like him.
This entire clusterfuck could have been avoided with some "old school" shit like manners, respect and restraint.

And if everyone wants to be a special, rude, edgy snowflake, the only guy who ends up being special and noteworthy is the dude sticking to rules and etiquette.

Wow... That's actually pretty thought provoking when you think about it.

Mind if I quote you on this, good sir?

I guess.
Might make my advisor happy. Keeps bugging me about how little my work gets cited in non-internal papers.....

Yes. He made a post about it on his site. I remember reading it.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

I don't know if you noticed, but Spoony is not 100% sane. Clinical depression from losing his job last year, his girlfriend going 1984 with his forum, her cheating in him then leaving him. The man got hit rough by all that and spent half the year off from making videos.

Just curious, because it keeps popping up.
Has he ever confirmed that he´s depressive ?
It´s not that I necessarily doubt it, it´s just that the internet as an entity has a shit track-record when it comes to diagnosing psychosis.
And you can be angry and self-destructive without being depressive.

http://spoonyexperiment.com/2011/11/11/regarding-the-delays/

Here it is.

EDIT: Ninja is faster than you slowpokes! Ha HA!

 

[TheAmazingHobo]

He made a pretty long post on his site a while back when he was barely releasing videos.

I think it was back in November or maybe October of last year. Anyway, he clearly states that he's just been diagnosed with serious depression, but that it's not the cause of being "too sad" or something. I'll try to find it.

Don´t need to, I believe you unsourced.
I was just curious if there was something to it, or if the internet was simply again taking one of its blind, uninformed, wildly inaccurate stabs at playing doctor.

So yeah, then he really should get help.
Being self-destructive because of a clinical condition is no fun.

EDIT: Ninja is faster than you slowpokes! Ha HA!

Everything else would be a severe disgrace to your name.

 

[SteveeRoo]

Noah is a really sound guy and as of late he has not been in a good way. His meds are not working well and he is prone to adverse effect this is one of them. Lupa was clearly wanting a sh&% STORM and that is what she got. To necro an already deadpan issue which Hope mockingly laughed at and even Nash did is just seeking arguments.

sPOONY EVEN THOUGH TYRADING on twitter not the wisest of moves comes off the better man. Lupa however is certainly going to make enemies. Noah through his 4 years of work and being a founder has a lot of connections and friends. Lewis being a very close friend they live a few hours away. Also Lindsay and Todd are EXTREMELY close friends as is Joe.

Lindsay a month back along with Todd and others made it clear that they wished to stop having story to their videos and do what they do best and that is review. Lindsay as many of you know is very astute as is Todd. Lewis has remained quiet due to bias reasons as has Wario another close friend.

In all honesty Lupa should go as well as well as Phalun because come monday they are not going to have friends. Noah has also stated in tweets as has lindsay about parting from CA and focusing on Reviews they've obviously relieved offers elsewhere and Lewis also has his website. Lindsay already publishes her videos on blip before TGWTG.

The sides are now very clear and just all Lewis and Lindsay and Todd and Joe and Wario are doing are defending their friend and colleague. Joe is not in the best of moods and extremely confused on the matter whilst the others have made none.

Tbh I Lewis, Todd and Lindsay left the site I would not bother. I honestly hate Doug his voice is irritating and you can tell he is scripted heavily. He is certainly no stranger to bad jokes either. Lupa is honestly No one knows her and Pealus is just awful the lack of quality shows

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I don't know if you noticed, but Spoony is not 100% sane. Clinical depression from losing his job last year, his girlfriend going 1984 with his forum, her cheating in him then leaving him. The man got hit rough by all that and spent half the year off from making videos.

You forgot to mention his brother being forced to kill a man in self-defense and a fan sending him goodbye emails before killing himself.

Yeah, Spoony's had a rough year and a half.

 

[Vhite]

I've looked around but can't find an answer. So please Escapist community tell me what has AngryJoe said on the whole thing? Has he even taken a side?

He is and always was great pal with Spoony.

 

[Connor Wood]

All I really have to say about this is that all (and by all, I mean all that I have seen so far) Channel Awesome producers who have saw fit to comment publicly on the situation have all voiced their support of Obscurus Lupa's actions, in the sense that they feel that she both had a right to be offended and a right to voice her opinion. Now, not all producers have condemned Spoony, but the majority agree that Spoony is a bit unhinged and needs help. Kyle (Oancitizen) has even tweeted (I can't find the tweet, the site is buggy for me) that the situation has never been Lupa Vs. Spoony, it's more Charlie sheen Vs. Charlie Sheen, with Noah unfortunately playing the part of Charlie Sheen.

And let's face it, if you just scroll down Spoony's twitter you'll clearly see something had to give eventually. Besides going of on fans, telling people to f*** off, publicly insulting producers like Oancitizen and JoTron, whose only crimes were to tell him to cool off and try to be more graceful, and even telling Bennett the Sage they were no longer friends, you can see that everything that happened here was his fault, and no one but his.

And don't say being depressed absolves him of guilt. Let's say I have to shoot your mother because if I don't I will die. It rationalizes what I did, but it doesn't mean your mommy is any less dead and that I shouldn't be punished for murder. Same thing here: His depression rationalizes his behavior, but he still chose to pull the trigger, so to speak, and now he's gotta deal with the consequences.