So this is a little bit off topic, but I cant think of a better place to ask this. So, I've played every total war game except Empire and Napoleon,right now I'm playing Shogun 2 but I'm getting a little tired of looking at samurai, so which of those two would you recommend and why?
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Empire is bigger, like a lot bigger and is more of a classic TW game.Grimsinger said:
Napoleon is much more story driven for the campaign. It's still fun but to me Empire was better simply because you could rule the ENTIRE world.
Thats a big plus, I love the grand campaigns, and I'm not sure how well something like total war would work as a story driven game.SwishiestB0g said:
edit: What do you think about all the DLC for Empire by the way?
Playing Medieval 2:Total War right now as Spain. I've beaten the Moors and Portugal, and I control all the African territories, Sicily, Ireland and couple of other places scattered about, as well as the Holy Land. I'm the most powerful nation and for ages pretty much all of the European nations were close allies or vassals, and I was pretty much completely top dog. Annoyingly, I've been betrayed by The Holy Roman Empire (who are the most powerful nation besides us) and lots of other nations are joining them. I've gone from being everyone's best friend to being the enemy of the entire world, except for England and Denmark, who are still on my side. Seems to be distracting everyone from The Mongol invasion too, so I guess that's going to be left to me to sort out. I'm training up assassins right now by killing lots of diplomats and princesses, hopefully I'll be able to start eliminating royal families soon.
Medieval 2 - Being fairly confident of entering a battle with superior troops and numbers, for some reason that I don't remember I sent in my faction leader to accompany, the battle was joined with a foe I also do not remember, they had catapults, but I knew their use in battles on foot, involving a lot of cavalry, was dubious, so I was confident.
After sending my heavy cavalry (including my faction leader) charging at some speed forward into soft lines of defence, in loose formation; one volley from one enemy catapult - Faction Leader is DEAD.
Amazing.
After sending my heavy cavalry (including my faction leader) charging at some speed forward into soft lines of defence, in loose formation; one volley from one enemy catapult - Faction Leader is DEAD.
Amazing.
Oh medieval total war 2 and how I miss it.... That was probably the best in the series (when I could get the bloody thing to work) just manic general fun.
A few days into my new RTW: Roma Surrectum II campaign and I've started to expand west, with the aim of capturing Iberia (Spain) from the native Gallaeci and driving out Carthage. The mini map shows my progress so far (in red)...
Once Carthage have been driven out of Continental Europe, the plan is to cross the Gibraltar Straight and push in from the west. I also intend to land a couple of Legions of troops right on the door step of Carthago itself and begin a two pronged attack. If I can put the right infrastructure in place in Iberia before I begin, I should be able to support operations on both fronts. Once Carthage are out of the picture, I'll probably go and fuck up Macedon and Greece's shit respectively.
And for those of you still thinking in terms of vanilla Julii, the reason I've not touched any of Gaul, Germania or the rest of the regions to my immediate north is that there's fuck all up there worth having at this stage, and because of the way RSII re-does the entire game the Senate missions are gone, so there's no annoying distractions trying to keep them happy with forays into territories that have little or no material use to me. Northern Europe is only worth going after once everything else has been taken over and it's the only thing left to plunder.
Once Carthage have been driven out of Continental Europe, the plan is to cross the Gibraltar Straight and push in from the west. I also intend to land a couple of Legions of troops right on the door step of Carthago itself and begin a two pronged attack. If I can put the right infrastructure in place in Iberia before I begin, I should be able to support operations on both fronts. Once Carthage are out of the picture, I'll probably go and fuck up Macedon and Greece's shit respectively.
And for those of you still thinking in terms of vanilla Julii, the reason I've not touched any of Gaul, Germania or the rest of the regions to my immediate north is that there's fuck all up there worth having at this stage, and because of the way RSII re-does the entire game the Senate missions are gone, so there's no annoying distractions trying to keep them happy with forays into territories that have little or no material use to me. Northern Europe is only worth going after once everything else has been taken over and it's the only thing left to plunder.
What am I doing? Downloading my Steam copy of Rome: Total War, and telling myself I'm not going anywhere until I know what I'm doing. Haven't played much, bought it because, hey, RTS for $5, apparently a good one...BUY.
I'll always remember being attacked by the entire Hunnic horde in Barbarian Invasion. I only had about 5 units garrisoned and was getting prepared to be stomped but for some reason all the Hun army did was position all their troops about 20 meters from my walls, which were ridiculously overpowered in that game (as well as the siege towwers now I think about it), and got decimated without me losing a single man. I just sat there laughing the whole time. One of the only times the AI in the Total War games has been stupid when I've played.
Two of my proudest moments:
Medieval: Total War
Playing as the Italians, from the Early start, I had managed to completely conquer the Middle East by the 1250's. It was right about that time that the Mongols decided to show up. The entire Mongol Horde, with the Khan at its head, descended on one of my border keeps with a garrison of only about 300, mostly Militia Sergeants and the like, nothing professional. They immediately decide to storm the castle. I know that my 300 men have no hope against 5000 Mongol horsemen, so I decide to try to make their end as glorious as possible. Milita Sergeants worked doubly well against the Mongols' armor and horses, and killed 3 horsemen for evey one of them that fell, easily.
My general's unit of sergeants also personally fought against the Khan and his bodyguard, and the Khan was killed in battle, along with his heirs. Eventually my men were overrun, but not before they killed an entire stack of Mongols, as well as the entire royal family! With no faction leader, the Mongols splintered into large rebel armies, and were no longer a legitimate threat to Europe. Not a bad showing for a bunch of Italian merchants with poleaxes.
Medieval 2: Total War
During the Britannia campaign, I was playing as Ireland. I had an alliance with Scotland and had just finished overrunning England and Wales. The Scots, however, decided to stab me in the back and sent 2 stacks worth of angry highlanders of all varieties against the stone fort that guarded the northern borders of Irish England. My garrison was only about 150, but the majority of those men were the Irish super-soldiers, the Muire. For those who don't remember, they essentially function like Armored Swordsmen, but they have 2 hp, insane morale and stamina, and frighten enemy infantry.
I placed 3 of my Muire squads (90 men overall) in my "siege box" formation, with the purpose of allowing the enemy to breach the gate and then attacking the blob of troops pouring in on three sides. I also put my remaining Muire squad on the walls with an additional unit of spearmen.
The Scots focused most of their attention on the gate, but threw a siege tower and some ladders my way also. Even though there were only 90 Muire, they simply would not break simply didn't get tired, even though there were over a thousand kilts in front of them. As more Scots were crowding to get through the gate, my spearmen managed to hold the gatehouse, and boiling oil just kept pouring on the Scottish crowd- not to mention the high toll that the arrow towers wer inflicting.
Eventually, one unit of the Scots couldn't take the punishment they were receiving in the courtyard anymore, and the beloved morale failure chain reaction began in earnest.I had kept a squad of light cavalry in back, so they gleefulyl rode out and captured hundreds of Scots. After the battle, the Scots refused to pay ransom, so the prisoners were killed, effectively killing off both armies-over 2000 men. I only lost about 30 Muires in that fight. I've never seen better soldiers in any other Total War game.
Medieval: Total War
Playing as the Italians, from the Early start, I had managed to completely conquer the Middle East by the 1250's. It was right about that time that the Mongols decided to show up. The entire Mongol Horde, with the Khan at its head, descended on one of my border keeps with a garrison of only about 300, mostly Militia Sergeants and the like, nothing professional. They immediately decide to storm the castle. I know that my 300 men have no hope against 5000 Mongol horsemen, so I decide to try to make their end as glorious as possible. Milita Sergeants worked doubly well against the Mongols' armor and horses, and killed 3 horsemen for evey one of them that fell, easily.
My general's unit of sergeants also personally fought against the Khan and his bodyguard, and the Khan was killed in battle, along with his heirs. Eventually my men were overrun, but not before they killed an entire stack of Mongols, as well as the entire royal family! With no faction leader, the Mongols splintered into large rebel armies, and were no longer a legitimate threat to Europe. Not a bad showing for a bunch of Italian merchants with poleaxes.
Medieval 2: Total War
During the Britannia campaign, I was playing as Ireland. I had an alliance with Scotland and had just finished overrunning England and Wales. The Scots, however, decided to stab me in the back and sent 2 stacks worth of angry highlanders of all varieties against the stone fort that guarded the northern borders of Irish England. My garrison was only about 150, but the majority of those men were the Irish super-soldiers, the Muire. For those who don't remember, they essentially function like Armored Swordsmen, but they have 2 hp, insane morale and stamina, and frighten enemy infantry.
I placed 3 of my Muire squads (90 men overall) in my "siege box" formation, with the purpose of allowing the enemy to breach the gate and then attacking the blob of troops pouring in on three sides. I also put my remaining Muire squad on the walls with an additional unit of spearmen.
The Scots focused most of their attention on the gate, but threw a siege tower and some ladders my way also. Even though there were only 90 Muire, they simply would not break simply didn't get tired, even though there were over a thousand kilts in front of them. As more Scots were crowding to get through the gate, my spearmen managed to hold the gatehouse, and boiling oil just kept pouring on the Scottish crowd- not to mention the high toll that the arrow towers wer inflicting.
Eventually, one unit of the Scots couldn't take the punishment they were receiving in the courtyard anymore, and the beloved morale failure chain reaction began in earnest.I had kept a squad of light cavalry in back, so they gleefulyl rode out and captured hundreds of Scots. After the battle, the Scots refused to pay ransom, so the prisoners were killed, effectively killing off both armies-over 2000 men. I only lost about 30 Muires in that fight. I've never seen better soldiers in any other Total War game.
Always meant to ask about RTW mods (because I've only done the minor mods that have slight gameplay changes - unit/faction availability, with the exception of RTR)...srm79 said:
Does RSII... *looks it up*
...
SECOND PUNIC WAR?!?!
So gotta get me this... Looks like I'll have to dust my disc... again!
Anyway, does it go with unlockable factions or is everyone playable from the off?
Well story driven is a bad way to explain it but it kinda is, the campaign is huge but much quicker I suppose and smaller too, you're in a part of Europe, part of Africa or in only Europe.Grimsinger said:
DLC is unnecessary really, just adds some units. If you like flavor for your units by all means get it, but didn't really change much for me.
OT: Medieval 2: I just took a few strategies from here, and simply spread my influence, had 15+ allies and easily 10 of them were paying me 200 a turn for like 50 turns then when war came around as I had the Pope in my back pocket and tons of spies and merchants and tons of money I simply steam-rolled, this was as England by the way. I made Scotland a vassal and took half the continent and sat back and smiled. Then gunpowder came in and I stopped playing. I despise gunpowder in that game.
Playing as Venice, doing my normal thing of being The Papal States' hound dog, I came under attack by a power block made up of Hungary and the Byzantines, I lost all my holdings in Italy after the Second Battle of Venice left me somewhat undermanned, Hungary demanded vassaldom, I accepted, by the Byzantines kept attacking, so Hungary mobilised to defend their vassal, spreading the Byzantine Empire way too thin, so Dodge Jacopo the Wrathful and Councilor Vitaliano the Lewd took their militia army and marched on Constantinople, after barely escapng the BYzantine's anatolian army, with the Byzantine's old allies to back us up in the attack the battle was about 4000 soldiers aside, Jacopo died in the assault, Vitaliano became Dodge and moved the capital to the newly wrested Constantinople.
Vitaliano got word that the Mongols were on route to constantinople, but he went after the Byzantine remnants instead, the mongols came, destroyed half the venetian economy, half the royal family and exterminated Constantinople, Vitaliano was forced to break off leave the Byzantine front to re-take the capital. The mongols were completley destroyed, but at the cost of Vitaliano's life, Venice now had three generals left, the new leader and his last generals sequestered themselves on the isle of Rhodes and in the city of Corinth, the last one hiding in the Crimea. We were on the brink of destruction, then a plucky young inventor gave us gunpowder, with this new invention the current dodge re-invented himself as a dread lord. Castle walls are no match for Venetian ingenuity. the Byzantines fell, as a new enemies made themselves known, the Egyptians and the Timurids. but that's a tale for another day.
Vitaliano got word that the Mongols were on route to constantinople, but he went after the Byzantine remnants instead, the mongols came, destroyed half the venetian economy, half the royal family and exterminated Constantinople, Vitaliano was forced to break off leave the Byzantine front to re-take the capital. The mongols were completley destroyed, but at the cost of Vitaliano's life, Venice now had three generals left, the new leader and his last generals sequestered themselves on the isle of Rhodes and in the city of Corinth, the last one hiding in the Crimea. We were on the brink of destruction, then a plucky young inventor gave us gunpowder, with this new invention the current dodge re-invented himself as a dread lord. Castle walls are no match for Venetian ingenuity. the Byzantines fell, as a new enemies made themselves known, the Egyptians and the Timurids. but that's a tale for another day.
In napoleon, i was russia and as such allied with asutria, austria got their asses kicked and lost vienna, i took it back for them in a bloody series of battles (was won and lost about 4 times) but i won it, rebuilt it and such and tried to give it back to the austrians, they would not accept it unless i gave them moscow as well (i was their allies). after this is was so anoyed i made peace with france and annexed austria with almost no effort
and to further highlight the amazing diplomatic AI, in Empire as prussia poland declared war on me and i wasnt in a state to fight tbh so i offered a peace treaty and threatened to attack if they didnt accept it (THEY declared war on me remember) and they accepted it. 2 turns later the same thing happens again. did they not understand that in a war id fight them?
and to further highlight the amazing diplomatic AI, in Empire as prussia poland declared war on me and i wasnt in a state to fight tbh so i offered a peace treaty and threatened to attack if they didnt accept it (THEY declared war on me remember) and they accepted it. 2 turns later the same thing happens again. did they not understand that in a war id fight them?
Ended up setting fire to so much of japan/wiping out larger forces for the loss of my smaller ones that most of the place ended up in chaos so i hid in my fortified area until everyone else was slightly on the dead side.
It kinda went wrong when everyone decided to try to invade me, but i made it work in my favour
It kinda went wrong when everyone decided to try to invade me, but i made it work in my favour
Conquered Rome with about 1000 Spartans, Conquered Medieval Europe as Milan, spread plague to every settlement in Rome: Total War in one turn. Total War took up so much of my life it's not even funny.
My last battle was Defending Rome with 600 Spearmen against the Hun hoard of over 5000
Sounds better than it is since they attacked with one siege tower and almost no infantry units, so I won by default pretty much XD
Sounds better than it is since they attacked with one siege tower and almost no infantry units, so I won by default pretty much XD