"The Truth" for Mass Effect 3

[Emiscary]

Know this all you starry eyed dreamers: faith is for gambling men. And as any gambling man will tell you, it almost never pays off. And that goes equally for faith in gods, men, and ideals. It seems like the message in all this is "expect disappointment but pay full price anyway... and like it". And that's not just from the developer's side of the argument, a not small portion of the audience seems to be spreading this message to each other.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

1: when you dont have an argument comment on someone grammar and/or spelling. Ace in the hole always.

2. That is ridicules. The player cant do anything that hasn't already been decided for them. You do not get to carry your choices on outside the medium. You fail lvl 1 and decided to never play again it doesn't become canon that Shepard died and the galaxy was doomed.
You can make the best Shepard story of them all. Doesn't matter. Still Bioware who wrote it for you. You have no real influence.

3: Special pleading. MY MEDIUM IS DIFFERENT! The precedent for it being change is always the original authors. Usually to cash in (fallout was no different).

4: My apologise

1. I addressed your argument. I also addressed your extremely annoying spelling error. Both those things can be true at the same time. Look, people need to not get butt-hurt every time someone corrects their spelling or grammar. It's a common misspelling and it looks ridiculous. Just fix it and move on.

2. I have no idea what on earth you are trying to argue here. We are discussing whether or not there is a single, definitive canonical version of Mass Effect that CANNOT BE CHANGED, and there is NOT. Games are not a fixed medium. They are not analogues for television shows or films or books. That is the matter up for discussion. Not whether or not people think they are secretly writing the game.

3. Actually in Fallout it was to address (pun not intentional) the fan fallout over an extremely poorly realized and poorly implemented ending. Regardless, the point up for discussion is not what the ultimate motivations of the developer are in doing this, be it further profit, brand protection, fan mollification, etc. It's whether or not you can do it without compromising the artistic vision of your narrative. Gaming is uniquely fluid in its ability to change in this respect, allow for multiple resolutions. It is not comparable to traditional media in this respect.

 

[LHZA]

So either they deliberately released an unfinished game with the intent to release this DLC later, or they're lying and this new DLC is a (rushed job) attempt to stop the s**tstorm of annoyed fans...

Decisions, decisions.

One rumor states that they planned for this because of the leaks. Make the ending separate from the main game with a DLC. I heard about this even before the game was released. I'm not saying it's true, but I don't blame Bioware if this was thieir plan all along.

 

[Smeggs]

I don't give a damn about the multiplayer. The only reason the MP matters at all is to raise Galactic Readiness so that I could reach the ending of the game without dying.

Except havig Shepard die before seeing that wretched final five minutes would have been a better ending anyway.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Yes, that's going to be the name of the magic DLC that will fix all the woes people have about the Mass Effect 3 endings. You'll be able to continue playing after the ending and it's adding a TON of multiplayer stuff including:

At least two new maps

Two new enemy types

Batarian and Geth Characters

AND IT'S ALL FREE PEOPLE!!

After all the venom I've heard spewed about Bioware and mass Effect 3 lately, Ive stayed positive and I'm so glad I have. Now I can act all smug when this turns out to be the endings we all wanted to see.

http://www.gamefront.com/rumor-mass-effect-3-dlc-the-truth-due-in-april/

Here's hoping April or May will make everything right with the galaxy

That was a joke.

 

[boag]

I don't give a damn about the multiplayer. The only reason the MP matters at all is to raise Galactic Readiness so that I could reach the ending of the game without dying.

Except havig Shepard die before seeing that wretched final five minutes would have been a better ending anyway.

I find multi fun, but to each their own.

Before hearing about the Indoctrination being real, I was very disappointed with the Ending, now Im really happy with it.

 

[soren7550]

While this all seems too good to be true, can't help but have hope.

"You've put the people together, the vision - and what you've done Shepard, is build hope."

(cookie if you know who said it and when)

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

So some random dude posts stuff on some random forum. And everyone picks it up as truth. Man people are desperate.

hey watch this:

"We here at Bioware had to conform to a timetable set up by EA when we produced Mass Effect 3. Our original intent was to allow the players to assemble their own squad including any of their former squad mates and not just the ones we provided in the base game. Our latest DLC will open up the ability to recruit anyone as a squad mate.

We are also opening up class types in multiplayer to more accurately reflect the races and their particular strengths. We apologize for not releasing the Krogan Vanguard class before however testing constraints made it impossible at the time. It was always our intention to rectify this mistake through DLC.

All that content, and this might as well be labeled an expansion pack.

And it's free.

You're welcome."

Quick guys, spread the message around. ^ that right there is proof of Biowares intentions guys.

One rumor states that they planned for this because of the leaks. Make the ending separate from the main game with a DLC. I heard about this even before the game was released. I'm not saying it's true, but I don't blame Bioware if this was thieir plan all along.

Of course, I'm sure it was all a calculated ploy to reduce sales.

 

[Xathos]

While this all seems too good to be true, can't help but have hope.

"You've put the people together, the vision - and what you've done Shepard, is build hope."

(cookie if you know who said it and when)

It was...

Spoiler

during a romance with Kaiden right before Shepard has the 3rd dream and you sleep with him. Also kinda like how Kaiden says it if you romance him as a Male Shepard too, lol.
EDIT: After. AFTER the 3rd dream and you sleep with him. My bad.

Yeah, I'll hope. But I just...don't know how I'll be if its all a lie.

If its true and the endings in that DLC are at least tolerable, I demand someone make a comic of a Bioware employee stepping onto a crowd of angry fans and say "Ah yes Mass Effect 3, an game whose endings have been said destroy how a person feels about the whole series, we have dismissed that claim" and plop that DLC into the hands of fans.

Oooh, when I imagine that...no, no. Can't get too hopeful afterall. Lol.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

An anonymous poster has added additional commentary on the image that not only purports to clarify what happened with ME3′s ending

Seems like a reliable source to me. If some guy says it on the internet, it must be true.

Excuse me while I read up on the time cube.

http://www.timecube.com/

What the hell is that time cube thing? I clicked on it out of curiosity and was transported to this strange land full of blabbering nonsense and horrible website architecture.

Unfortunately, that's the point. People just seem to be so goddamn adamant about not wanting and not LETTING people be even a little optimistic about this even possibly being true.

If it fixes the ending, hell yeah I'll be playing Multiplayer.

Have you played it at all yet? It's actually really fun.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Yes, that's going to be the name of the magic DLC that will fix all the woes people have about the Mass Effect 3 endings. You'll be able to continue playing after the ending and it's adding a TON of multiplayer stuff including:

At least two new maps

Two new enemy types

Batarian and Geth Characters

AND IT'S ALL FREE PEOPLE!!

After all the venom I've heard spewed about Bioware and mass Effect 3 lately, Ive stayed positive and I'm so glad I have. Now I can act all smug when this turns out to be the endings we all wanted to see.

http://www.gamefront.com/rumor-mass-effect-3-dlc-the-truth-due-in-april/

Here's hoping April or May will make everything right with the galaxy

That was a joke.

Wait, what exactly are you insinuating here? I'm staying positive that this could be real and that it very easily could fix the problems people have with the game.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I thought this whole DLC leak was originated on 4chan and established to be bullshit?

 

[Zen Toombs]

OP

Spoiler: Shepard Horror

That was a joke.

Wait, what exactly are you insinuating here? I'm staying positive that this could be real and that it very easily could fix the problems people have with the game.

I'm insinuating nothing. I'm saying that this seems to be a blatant joke/lie.

I didn't like the ending, it provided no closure. I didn't want sunshine and bunnies and pie, but I did want closure over this game I've put so much into. I do want Bioware to give a proper ending to the series, but we'll see what happens.

However, this DLC is not going to be it. For one, it promises exactly what "the people" want, from a proper ending to Geth characters to Krogan biotics. Besides, they called it "THE TRUTH". There are far too many red flags for this to be legitimate, especially when the only evidince is one source from something easily photoshopped.

Don't get me wrong, I want Bioware to do something. And honestly, they probably will. But salvation will not come from "The Truth".

 

[Bobic]

An anonymous poster has added additional commentary on the image that not only purports to clarify what happened with ME3′s ending

Seems like a reliable source to me. If some guy says it on the internet, it must be true.

Excuse me while I read up on the time cube.

http://www.timecube.com/

What the hell is that time cube thing? I clicked on it out of curiosity and was transported to this strange land full of blabbering nonsense and horrible website architecture.

Unfortunately, that's the point. People just seem to be so goddamn adamant about not wanting and not LETTING people be even a little optimistic about this even possibly being true.

I suppose you're the kind of person who repeatedly clicks banner ads thinking wow, I'm this sites millionth customer. Again.

The site didn't link it to some inside source (which would still be dubious) they linked it to some guys comment on some picture. I'm sorry, but I just find it baffling that that's treated as news and felt the need to point it out.

And it's not that we're not letting people be even a little optimistic about this possibly being true. Read your OP. You treated this as if it were a press release straight from bioware. Not a hint of doubt in the air. You need us to balance the thread out.

 

[soren7550]

While this all seems too good to be true, can't help but have hope.

"You've put the people together, the vision - and what you've done Shepard, is build hope."

(cookie if you know who said it and when)

It was...

Spoiler

during a romance with Kaiden right before Shepard has the 3rd dream and you sleep with him. Also kinda like how Kaiden says it if you romance him as a Male Shepard too, lol.
EDIT: After. AFTER the 3rd dream and you sleep with him. My bad.

Yeah, I'll hope. But I just...don't know how I'll be if its all a lie.

If its true and the endings in that DLC are at least tolerable, I demand someone make a comic of a Bioware employee stepping onto a crowd of angry fans and say "Ah yes Mass Effect 3, an game whose endings have been said destroy how a person feels about the whole series, we have dismissed that claim" and plop that DLC into the hands of fans.

Oooh, when I imagine that...no, no. Can't get too hopeful afterall. Lol.

Right you are.

God, how I love the romance with Kaidan (still think it's weird that he's bisexual now, but Ashley isn't).

Spoiler: I know I said cookie, but this is more fitting

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

An anonymous poster has added additional commentary on the image that not only purports to clarify what happened with ME3′s ending

Seems like a reliable source to me. If some guy says it on the internet, it must be true.

Excuse me while I read up on the time cube.

http://www.timecube.com/

What the hell is that time cube thing? I clicked on it out of curiosity and was transported to this strange land full of blabbering nonsense and horrible website architecture.

Unfortunately, that's the point. People just seem to be so goddamn adamant about not wanting and not LETTING people be even a little optimistic about this even possibly being true.

I suppose you're the kind of person who repeatedly clicks banner ads thinking wow, I'm this sites millionth customer. Again.

The site didn't link it to some inside source (which would still be dubious) they linked it to some guys comment on some picture. I'm sorry, but I just find it baffling that that's treated as news and felt the need to point it out.

And it's not that we're not letting people be even a little optimistic about this possibly being true. Read your OP. You treated this as if it were a press release straight from bioware. Not a hint of doubt in the air. You need us to balance the thread out.

Nothing but ridiculous hyperbole. What would you lose if it turns out to be true? Why do you feel the need to bring people down? So what if it's a rumor? Why can't you just let people be excited for something? There's no reason to be so cynical, and it's not like there haven't been rumors about this game that haven't come true in the past. A big chunk the inferred facts, rumors, or "leaked" information during the game's development turned out to be true, why not this time?

 

[GloatingSwine]

But really, even if it looks to be rushed, can you really complain about a free epilogue?

If you don't mind my asking, if you were watching LOTR at the cinema, and it suddenly ended as Aragorn and co. are charging Mount Doom in Operation Massive Distration, and it then showed you a load of stuff that made no sense (e.g. Look, Gimli is with Frodo now!, the Witch-King isn't dead!)...

Would you be cool with them saying "Don't worry guys, give us a month or two and we'll hurl out the REAL ending. It's free so we're cool"?

You're completely disregarding the lore of Mass Effect. If you factor that in, it's actually a brilliant piece of storytelling.

No, if you factor in the "lore" of Mass Effect as you experienced it in particularly ME 2 and 3 it's even worse, because it's all based on a faulty premise.

 

[Bobic]

An anonymous poster has added additional commentary on the image that not only purports to clarify what happened with ME3′s ending

Seems like a reliable source to me. If some guy says it on the internet, it must be true.

Excuse me while I read up on the time cube.

http://www.timecube.com/

What the hell is that time cube thing? I clicked on it out of curiosity and was transported to this strange land full of blabbering nonsense and horrible website architecture.

Unfortunately, that's the point. People just seem to be so goddamn adamant about not wanting and not LETTING people be even a little optimistic about this even possibly being true.

I suppose you're the kind of person who repeatedly clicks banner ads thinking wow, I'm this sites millionth customer. Again.

The site didn't link it to some inside source (which would still be dubious) they linked it to some guys comment on some picture. I'm sorry, but I just find it baffling that that's treated as news and felt the need to point it out.

And it's not that we're not letting people be even a little optimistic about this possibly being true. Read your OP. You treated this as if it were a press release straight from bioware. Not a hint of doubt in the air. You need us to balance the thread out.

Nothing but ridiculous hyperbole. What would you lose if it turns out to be true? Why do you feel the need to bring people down? So what if it's a rumor? Why can't you just let people be excited for something? There's no reason to be so cynical, and it's not like there haven't been rumors about this game that haven't come true in the past. A big chunk the inferred facts, rumors, or "leaked" information during the game's development turned out to be true, why not this time?

I'm just providing the other side of the story. You reported on it like it was fact. It isn't. It's highly dubious. That needed to be said. Balance. etc.

I have nothing to lose if it turns out to be true. What would you lose if it turns out to be false?

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

An anonymous poster has added additional commentary on the image that not only purports to clarify what happened with ME3′s ending

Seems like a reliable source to me. If some guy says it on the internet, it must be true.

Excuse me while I read up on the time cube.

http://www.timecube.com/

What the hell is that time cube thing? I clicked on it out of curiosity and was transported to this strange land full of blabbering nonsense and horrible website architecture.

Unfortunately, that's the point. People just seem to be so goddamn adamant about not wanting and not LETTING people be even a little optimistic about this even possibly being true.

I suppose you're the kind of person who repeatedly clicks banner ads thinking wow, I'm this sites millionth customer. Again.

The site didn't link it to some inside source (which would still be dubious) they linked it to some guys comment on some picture. I'm sorry, but I just find it baffling that that's treated as news and felt the need to point it out.

And it's not that we're not letting people be even a little optimistic about this possibly being true. Read your OP. You treated this as if it were a press release straight from bioware. Not a hint of doubt in the air. You need us to balance the thread out.

Nothing but ridiculous hyperbole. What would you lose if it turns out to be true? Why do you feel the need to bring people down? So what if it's a rumor? Why can't you just let people be excited for something? There's no reason to be so cynical, and it's not like there haven't been rumors about this game that haven't come true in the past. A big chunk the inferred facts, rumors, or "leaked" information during the game's development turned out to be true, why not this time?

I'm just providing the other side of the story. You reported on it like it was fact. It isn't. It's highly dubious. That needed to be said. Balance. etc.

I have nothing to lose if it turns out to be true. What would you lose if it turns out to be false?

I lose literally nothing. That's the joy of being optimistic. You can be excited for something and STILL don't have to spew venom about the musical score game ruining my ability to love or whatever people are complaining about these days. I was proven right when the multiplayer turned out to be fun despite constant opposition, and now a lot of those people who spent the whole time before the demo came out saying the multiplayer would absolutely ruin the game are probably at a higher N7 level than I am.

 

[Saviordd1]

If this is true, I will kiss every member of bioware.

But I remain skeptically excited. We shall see.