Why would anyone think what someone else thinks is any of their business and not simply between them and God? I'll tell you right now the devil is in fact at least as big a liar as he's made out as. His first trick is trying to convince you what other people think is any of your business.EvilRoy said:I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I asked a question and I'm becoming more and more perplexed by the frankly bizarre answers I'm getting. One of the clear problems I'm having is that you keep using bible quotes and biblical analogies to try to make your point, and I do not understand them - this is not an insult or an attack, I simply have no education on the bible beyond learning about how Job got treated like shit so when you do this, I'm left completely in the dark. I have no idea what you think I just did.rasta111 said:Well I could ignore you now and you started the conversation if you remember but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of your feelings. Remember, like a mirror, everything outside of that mirror is non-existant. The Lord our God does not take responsibility for the acts of those under the devil; only his own chosen servants the prophets and those who earnestly repent and seek Jesus out as he speaks through the prophets. I remember before I used to get a fire in my belly everytime someone disagreed or argued with what I said provoking me. It's gone now and I believe that fire is the influence of the devil so be on your guard for it and do not respond to it. I know it seems difficult but all the love you show the Lord is reflected back at you as well and rewarded if you are patient with the devil. The fire is truth and the devil holds the power but not the keys which are in the hands of the Lord Jesus Christ.EvilRoy said:Okay, but I don't believe in God, I'm pretty sure Jesus existed but as not much more than a well spoken Jewish Egyptian, and I'm iffy on the Devil. I'm still not clear on the whole ignorance/weakness thing, unless you mean that people who don't believe as you do are ignorant or weak - which while offensive would at least clear some stuff up. I'm still by and large unclear why you are telling me this though.rasta111 said:OK let me try explaining to you exactly how I perceive things... The Lord our God is like a mirror and everything apart from that is non-existant from that perspective. Whatever you are feeling you are shooting directly at him so when you express negativity though you may not feel it at the time it is nonetheless instantly reflected back at you though it may take a while for you to perceive it properly. This essentially is what the devil is, like the sword of our God, but gone rogue. What I believe in is the Lord Jesus Christ. He took this sword for all of us at once and effectively became all of us at once. All the stress you feel and express therefore goes through him and he judges you for how you respond to it.
Essentially the devil wants to replace the Lord but the Lord will not die and is one with all of us so whenever we express negative feelings against him this is the devil using us against our own creator which is as crazy and astonishingly confusing as it sounds.
Basically Jesus was made an example of to show both the power of the devil and the unwillingness of the Lord our God to die. As for everything else you're saying it is in fact non-sequiter to me. Although I feel a lot of the same things you've expressed. Kind of like a mirror.
Just forget all that for a second and think what you just did. Who are you trying to convince? It does amaze me the ability of many to speak into echo chambers albeit without realising. I'd guess the internet does that by creating the illusion of solitude around you. This is not real.
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Please try not to take these out of context. I didn't write it. It almost seems like people are assuming I did a lot of the time. They are all the words of Jesus through prophets. It's all simply a test so forget all the exams so many seem to think are so important in this world and concentrate. Could save your life.
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them.