The Walking Dead Rises for a Second Season
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Epic news, I'm glad to see this really well made show continue on. Those first two episodes were some great television.
There's just one thing here that really bothers me though: They mentioned that they wanted 10 seasons? Ten seasons? There's lots of things to like about this show, but I doubt you can stretch "Zombies vs. Survivors" for ten whole seasons. Not even LOST could stretch "people on an island" out for 6 seasons without some filler episodes, and there are a shit ton of ideas in LOST.
But hey, I'll stop watching it when it gets old and smells like rotting flesh, and keep watching it as long as its good.
There's just one thing here that really bothers me though: They mentioned that they wanted 10 seasons? Ten seasons? There's lots of things to like about this show, but I doubt you can stretch "Zombies vs. Survivors" for ten whole seasons. Not even LOST could stretch "people on an island" out for 6 seasons without some filler episodes, and there are a shit ton of ideas in LOST.
But hey, I'll stop watching it when it gets old and smells like rotting flesh, and keep watching it as long as its good.
Yeah I kinda agree. The racist in episode 2 really got on my nerves at how unrealistic he was portrayed. Not that I'm siding with his views--I just think it was bad writing.Tdc2182 said:
"Hurr durr I'm a racist let me insult this black person."
"Hurr durr now let me offensively hit on the girl, because, I'm evil, and you know, this totally helps my case for them letting me go. Have you figured out I'm evil yet? 'Cause I am. Are there any blind orphans nearby for me to punch?"
Wait, already?
I don't know much about television politics, so do new shows usually get greenlighted for new seasons this quickly?
I don't know much about television politics, so do new shows usually get greenlighted for new seasons this quickly?
Both episodes were great, although my girlfriend calls it a "Testosterone Filled Soap Opera."
I love both episodes despite the fact that
So yeah, Kudos to the team behind this show, they finally made a solid zombie show, a few movies can learn from this. Yes, I'm talking about the newest installment of the Resident Evil movie series.
I love both episodes despite the fact that
Zombies are supposed to notice you if you walk covered in gore.
So yeah, Kudos to the team behind this show, they finally made a solid zombie show, a few movies can learn from this. Yes, I'm talking about the newest installment of the Resident Evil movie series.
Just pointing out the unfairness of the TV world.
I just saw the first episode a few days ago and I am sucked in to it (though I read the comics so I knew the TV series would be good) now I just need a girlfriend so I can have someone who will watch and love the series as much as I do
I keep missing it, but I think people are mostly hyped up by the potential the series represents. Largely because generally speaking when you see Zombies it's in movies that are over and done with in two hours tops, and really don't get the chance to explore the situation very well.Tdc2182 said:
It will be interesting to see how things turn out in the long run.
Therumancer said:
In this you are wrong. Its actually quite enjoyable, so much so that my wife is even enjoying it. Thats saying something. Trust me, the girl hates zombies.
I would like to know where, as I'd watch it. I've never ever seen anything resembling the care taken with the series in a live action format. The closest I've seen was a book-on-tape of World war z that I listened to on a long car trip.Tdc2182 said:
Frankly if they can rachet up the intensity I'm all for it, it's been a good show so far (Despite the whole "Covered in Zombie guts=invisible thing")
When you really think about it, that describes pretty much any show that guys like. The only difference between day-time soaps and shows that guys like is more explosions.Stalk3rchief said:
Hey, if you guys have a better explanation for how zombies can tell us apart from them, I'd love to hear it. Frankly, I think that the whole "smelling dead" thing works. Basically, they want good meat. Same way you'd turn-down a steak if it smells like it was rotting in the mud before it was cooked. The only thing I didn't really buy about that was that rain magically cleans them off. Granted I can't speak from personal experience (and I'd worry for the man who could), but I'm pretty sure that even during and after the rain, the clothes would still smell like shit. Possibly worse, even.Necromancer1991 said:
Only other explanation I've seen before are both from sitcoms where if you act and/or dress-up like a zombie, they'll think you're a zombie.
I think you need to get out more. Believe it or not, but some people really DO act pretty much exactly how he acted; even when they're in no position to act that way. Also, to the story's credit, he's completely original to the TV show, and I don't know how much the original writer of the story had to do with the script of the show. Doesn't do as much for the show itself, granted, but don't let him taint any decision you might be making towards checking out the source material.Visulth said:
Well, the Amnesia thing happened in 28 Days Later, Holding up in a place in a big city has happened in Dawn of The Dead, they just did it better. I know that Covering each other in Guts has happened in another series, I just cant think of what.thiosk said:
And infection spread by bite? C'mon. Its gone from unoriginal to absolutely improbable. It would be put down in a matter of hours if that was really the case.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like the series, and I am of the Majority of people who thinks adding zombies to anything immediatley makes it better, but I am not to impressed by the show.
He seemed plenty believable to me, but then again, how many of us have met an extremely racist white southerner, who's just had some coke, has a gun, and is fueled with adrenalin due to the multitudes of zombies wanting to come over and have a bite to eat.Visulth said:
Besides the fact that outside of calling him the N word he didn't do anything explicitly wrong to the guy. He called him a name, then the black guy took a swing at them, and then he retaliated. I don't know about you, but on top of the cocaine/adrenalin, I think I'd find it pretty hard to stop hitting as well.
Can airmchair experts please at least read the comics before they become...airmchair experts?
The whole 'disguise yourself by scent' is a MAJOR part of the comics. A MAJOR part. Scrapping it would be completely retarded. Not only is there the early foraging run where Rick and Neil get the idea, but later on Micchone meets ups with them having been travelling solo for months since the outbreak, and surviving by virtue of tying her dead boyfriend to one arm and her dead friend to the other arm (removing their jaws and arms so they can't attack her), hence using them as a stench shield to disguise herself against any zombies.
Pretty much any 'silly' characterisation was from the show, not the comics: the 'racist guy' isn't in the comics - Neil (the asian kid) rescues Rick from the tank via some suicidal climbing acrobatics (in the comics he's got a death-wish at that point - less a case of 'I hope someone repays the favour in future', more a case of 'I couldn't care less if I die right now'), and then they meet all the others back at base camp.
Shane is a lot more likeable in the comics as well. I REALLY hope they don't go down the road of making him violent/abusive/unlikeable as the 'other man' too soon - would really suck the 'I just cried inside' from a certain beautifully tragic confrontation between the main characters later on.
And WHAT THE HELL IS THIS 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO X' 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO RECOGNISE PEOPLE COVERED IN GORE' 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO CALCULUS' 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO......
...ZOMBIES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE WRITERS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SERIES WANT THEM TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok?
There'll be a few more zombie 'rules' that come up in the comics that will probably appear in the series, that might not be your cliched 'rules' - wherever you get those from (because they sure aren't from the Romero films).
Note the imobile zombie on the ground, with partial (but not full) brain damage. Limited mobility. That's the first clue to a rule that will come up later. Also note the difference in behaviour: roamers (or walkers, as they call them in the show) that travel the road in packs looking for prey vs lurkers who just hang in the area that they died in.
There's also a certain degree of desensitisation going on, and a tendency for some roamers to follow other roamers, who are just following whatever direction they were walking in last - so while a human is WAY faster on foot, unless he's crafty with his directions, he's going to hit a wall of pain when he stops to rest/sleep and about 500 roamers show up on his doorstep...
The whole 'disguise yourself by scent' is a MAJOR part of the comics. A MAJOR part. Scrapping it would be completely retarded. Not only is there the early foraging run where Rick and Neil get the idea, but later on Micchone meets ups with them having been travelling solo for months since the outbreak, and surviving by virtue of tying her dead boyfriend to one arm and her dead friend to the other arm (removing their jaws and arms so they can't attack her), hence using them as a stench shield to disguise herself against any zombies.
Pretty much any 'silly' characterisation was from the show, not the comics: the 'racist guy' isn't in the comics - Neil (the asian kid) rescues Rick from the tank via some suicidal climbing acrobatics (in the comics he's got a death-wish at that point - less a case of 'I hope someone repays the favour in future', more a case of 'I couldn't care less if I die right now'), and then they meet all the others back at base camp.
Shane is a lot more likeable in the comics as well. I REALLY hope they don't go down the road of making him violent/abusive/unlikeable as the 'other man' too soon - would really suck the 'I just cried inside' from a certain beautifully tragic confrontation between the main characters later on.
And WHAT THE HELL IS THIS 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO X' 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO RECOGNISE PEOPLE COVERED IN GORE' 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO DO CALCULUS' 'ZOMBIES ARE SUPPOSED TO......
...ZOMBIES AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THE WRITERS FOR THIS PARTICULAR SERIES WANT THEM TO DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok?
There'll be a few more zombie 'rules' that come up in the comics that will probably appear in the series, that might not be your cliched 'rules' - wherever you get those from (because they sure aren't from the Romero films).
Note the imobile zombie on the ground, with partial (but not full) brain damage. Limited mobility. That's the first clue to a rule that will come up later. Also note the difference in behaviour: roamers (or walkers, as they call them in the show) that travel the road in packs looking for prey vs lurkers who just hang in the area that they died in.
There's also a certain degree of desensitisation going on, and a tendency for some roamers to follow other roamers, who are just following whatever direction they were walking in last - so while a human is WAY faster on foot, unless he's crafty with his directions, he's going to hit a wall of pain when he stops to rest/sleep and about 500 roamers show up on his doorstep...
The infection spread by bite is going to be dealth with later in the series. Again READ THE COMICS BEFORE WHINING. Right now, the characters THINK the infection is spread by bite. They might be wrong. Oh boy the might be wrong. And that might be REAL unfortunate if the time they realise that they were wrong was when most folk have their back turned while one guy is lowering the 'corpse' into the ground without protection...