"There is nothing wrong being racist"

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SquallTheBlade said:
No, no, I didn't say that, but a good friend of mine did.

So, this friend watched American History X yesterday, a movie which tells about dangers of racism and what it can cause. Today he said something about the movie: "Best parts where those where niggers were killed"
I was shocked... I told him that the movie was supposed to be against racism. After that he said "Well I'm a racist and there is nothing wrong about being racist. I don't like black people"

Of course I started arguing against it, but he just got angry and said that being racist is his choise and I can't start whining about it to him.

But the thing is, he has had a black friend and he has been with one of my black friends. So I asked him "But wasn't she a nice girl?" (referring to my black friend). He responded "Yeah, but she wasn't foreigner", "So you dont like foreigner people?" "Yeah, but most of them are black", "So what about that chinese guy just 2 doors away from us?"(The friend is also my roommate), "Oh yeah, I dont like chinese people either"

I started arguing that you can't judge people just for their skin colour or where they come from, but I could see how he were getting angry so I stopped. He gets angry very easily and I don't want that to happen.

I don't know if I should punch him to the face, laugh at him or just cry because there really are people who think like that. Here you don't really meet any racist people. Yes we might say something racist but it's always said in a sarcastic way so we don't really mean it(Or atleast thats what I do). But my friend is serious...

So, do you have any racist friends and what do you think about them? Personally, I think I can't look at my friend the same way anymore...
Your friend is a complete and utter piece of shit, if you disagree with him, abandon him, before he drags you down like his kind ALWAYS do.
 

kasperbbs

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I don't know any racists personally, well maybe that has something to do with the lack of foreigners here, only few black people i have met were my aunt's husband and my 2yo cousin, i have nothing bad to say about them.
 

RickyRich

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I think your friend is a douche. I'd say publicly embarrass him. Hide a camera, start that argument again, then record the results. You then upload it to youtube and list his name and all of his contact information, so everyone can tell him what a piece of shit he is. And yes, he is a piece of shit.
 

CrazyGirl17

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...If that were my friend, I'd get a new friend. Or... I'd kick him in the balls.

That might be a bit of a kneejerk reaction, but as someone who despises all forms of discrimination (not to mention a bad temper), that's what I'd do. It wouldn't help, and it's get me in trouble, but I'd maintain he deserved it.

See, I don't have a very good tolerance for intolerance (lol, irony, right?), and while I respect the right to have an opinion... I draw the line at discrimination... though that might be my strong sense of justice talking.

Rambling aside, you're better off without that asshole.
 

Sandytimeman

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My advice is to change roomates, he is willfully hateful and ignorant and he won't easily change. I shutter to hear his opinions on homosexuals.
 

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LiquidGrape said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Yeah, actually, no. Thats completely fucking false. Maybe thats what they tell kids in school now because of all this hyper anti-racism, but scientists do indeed acknowledge and study the differences between races.

Not that it matters, since all races will soon be mashed together in one globalized "cross breeding" party (I dont actually know if its offensive to word it like that, im just saying it for lack of a better term), but thats beside the point.
I was under the impression that, if not for forensic purposes in the pursuit of anthropological and evolutionary differentiation, most scientists acknowledge that all 'races' are actually members of the same subspecies, and that ethnicity is the appropriate term since there is no taxonomic variation on that level.
Indeed, that is the case.

Presently, humanity is one race; the human race.
 

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Lazier Than Thou said:
There's certainly something wrong with being a racist, but I really don't think it's the heinous thing people make it out to be. I, personally, don't judge people based upon groups as I'm a strict individualist, but I can see how people would get to their perspective.

Race isn't just skin color, it goes deeper than that. Biology influences human behavior and race certainly has a biological component. That doesn't mean one group is better or worse, just that they're different. To see this difference and to assign worth based upon it is ignorant(as you clearly pointed out), but it's neither unusual nor the most terrible thing a person can do.

I don't have any racist friends, but I also really don't have many friends so it's kind of a non starter with me.

Actually, biologically and anthropologically speaking... the concept of "race" among humans is so blurred its nearly impossible to catagorize. The supposed "racial" differences are less varied than male and female and even something so simple as living at different altitudes has a more noticable effect, biologically speaking.

So really, racism goes about as far as "You look different." and no further. Anyone claiming it has more depth is wrong and twisting facts to support their bias.

Most supposed "racial traits" are misinterpreations or flatout ignorance of socio-economic influences rather than simply being born, its all "self-fulfilling prophecy" logic.
 

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Hate against another person is wrong in almost every-way there is. You can hate what that person does and hate what they represent, but one must never hate the person.

Racism is hate used in one of the least justifiable way, its judging people that have something that sets them apart from the group then attaching stereotypes to it. Dislike for someone should be because of their actions they chose, not things that affect their life that they have no control of.
 

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Kinguendo said:
Lazier Than Thou said:
There's certainly something wrong with being a racist, but I really don't think it's the heinous thing people make it out to be. I, personally, don't judge people based upon groups as I'm a strict individualist, but I can see how people would get to their perspective.

Race isn't just skin color, it goes deeper than that. Biology influences human behavior and race certainly has a biological component. That doesn't mean one group is better or worse, just that they're different. To see this difference and to assign worth based upon it is ignorant(as you clearly pointed out), but it's neither unusual nor the most terrible thing a person can do.

I don't have any racist friends, but I also really don't have many friends so it's kind of a non starter with me.

Actually, biologically and anthropologically speaking... the concept of "race" among humans is so blurred its nearly impossible to catagorize. The supposed "racial" differences are less varied than male and female and even something so simple as living at different altitudes has a more noticable effect, biologically speaking.

So really, racism goes about as far as "You look different." and no further. Anyone claiming it has more depth is wrong and twisting facts to support their bias.

Most supposed "racial traits" are misinterpreations or flatout ignorance of socio-economic influences rather than simply being born, its all "self-fulfilling prophecy" logic.
EDIT: I actually find it very comforting to know that "race" among humans isnt really a thing, I think if more people had that frame of mind there would be almost no tension in this area.
 

Kinguendo

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
Smackerlacker said:
People are judged by the company they keep. This friend of yours sounds to me like a stupid, selfish, credulous asshole. If you continue to call him your friend, you are the same.
The creed of everyone who cannot find a fault in somebody. "I don't like you, but can't think of much wrong with you, so I'm gonna judge you based on someone else."
Well, to be fair it is questionable that one would keep such unsavoury company.

Not to mention that Mr. Smackerlacker doesnt actually know the OP altogether that well for him to make any kind of informed judgement of him... what he does know, however is that he is friends with a unapologetic hateful bigot.
 

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Aidinthel said:

But this guy sounds like more than a "little bit" racist. My advice: never speak to him again.
The thing about this song is that it basically says "Stereotypes are funny because they're sometimes true. Let's all laugh!"

The fact that there are still intolerant people about race on even a minority scale in this day and age... have we really made so little progress since the 1400s?

I'm willing to admit that I don't really associate that much with black people (or chinese people for that matter, despite being half chinese) but that's because I don't like that type of crowd. It's the same reason I don't hang out with california posers...

I've met black nerds and chinese nerds (to a lesser extent, most of them don't talk much...) and they're fabulous people.

oh right, OT: Punch your friend in the face until he grows some tolerance and freakin' respect
 

General Twinkletoes

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Your friend is a dickhead who deserves to be punched in the face by mike tyson for 5 hours. You should never speak to him again.
 

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Can't abide by such wilful ignorance. At this point you shouldn't give a flying fuck about his feelings because why show empathy to someone who lacks it entirely.

Racism doesn't just manifest as an aversion to other ethnicities. Most racist people are also short on temper, intolerant of change, unempathetic towards other people in general, potentially sexist and/or have superiority complexes.

Racism is a sociopathic mentality. What's worse it's essentially a loaded gun that can never be wielded justly and has a tendency to back fire. If you're living in a multi-cultural society then your friend is both a risk to himself and damaging to the community.

Do not just accept this. Stop being his friend, or try and educate him. Belittle him with slights on his physical characteristics or aspects that are inherent to him only. Give him a lesson in what a lack of empathy feels like. Show him, as someone above mention, a page on that web that advocates hate towards your country/state/culture etc. and ask him what he thinks of it. A hypocritical point of view (where he feels justified to do it, but they aren't) means he's hopeless. If he get's visibly angry then you might be able to give him a lesson in empathy.

As a member of a community that presumably accepts multi-cultural interactions, his view is far too damaging (to both himself and others) to let slide. So either bail or try to educate him, but don't accept it.
 

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SquallTheBlade said:
No, no, I didn't say that, but a good friend of mine did.

So, this friend watched American History X yesterday, a movie which tells about dangers of racism and what it can cause. Today he said something about the movie: "Best parts where those where niggers were killed"
I was shocked... I told him that the movie was supposed to be against racism. After that he said "Well I'm a racist and there is nothing wrong about being racist. I don't like black people"

Of course I started arguing against it, but he just got angry and said that being racist is his choise and I can't start whining about it to him.

But the thing is, he has had a black friend and he has been with one of my black friends. So I asked him "But wasn't she a nice girl?" (referring to my black friend). He responded "Yeah, but she wasn't foreigner", "So you dont like foreigner people?" "Yeah, but most of them are black", "So what about that chinese guy just 2 doors away from us?"(The friend is also my roommate), "Oh yeah, I dont like chinese people either"

I started arguing that you can't judge people just for their skin colour or where they come from, but I could see how he were getting angry so I stopped. He gets angry very easily and I don't want that to happen.

I don't know if I should punch him to the face, laugh at him or just cry because there really are people who think like that. Here you don't really meet any racist people. Yes we might say something racist but it's always said in a sarcastic way so we don't really mean it(Or atleast thats what I do). But my friend is serious...

So, do you have any racist friends and what do you think about them? Personally, I think I can't look at my friend the same way anymore...
I take it you're not a racist yourself. That in mind, you have a bigger problem than your buddy. You're friends with a racist. If YOU watched American History X, you know you need to cut ties with that chap, pronto.

It's your own fault if you get in trouble hanging around with someone full of that much hate.
 

CManator

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Being racist doesn't automatically make somebody evil, just stupid. It's wrong, but as lond as they don't actively hurt or oppress anybody they can hate whoever they want. 1st amendment and all.

People should be judged by their actions, not their opinions or physical features.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Actively partaking in racism, and even passive racism is always bad. Disliking someone's culture is not necessarily racist, but discrimination is.
At least disliking aspects of someone's culture requires them to have some understanding of it.

Racism is purely hating a group of people because you choose to paint them all with the same brush, and assume things that likely aren't even very true to begin with. To hate people you've never met simply because of the colour of their skin, or where they come from is wrong. Period.

I don't have any friends who are overtly racist like that so I don't know if any of them are racist. But if any of them did believe as the OP's friend does, and worse, try to say there's nothing wrong with it, I'd cut ties with them. And I'd make sure to tell them exactly why I won't be hanging out with them anymore, and I'd be damn sure I'd tell anyone who asks too.
 

Filiecs

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Racism is power plus prejudice so, unless your friend actively uses his power to ruin the lives of those with a different skin color, he's just prejudiced. There is nothing wrong with being prejudiced, however, becase thought policing is even worse. It just makes you a gain dick.