These forums have some serious issues with JRPGs. And it's time to address them.

[cj_iwakura]

Always fun to see that people who hate JRPGs played the absolute worst ones in existence.

Go play SMT Nocturne, Shadow Hearts, or Digital Devil Saga, then try rethinking that opinion.

 

[Jekken6]

I don't like JRPGs. Not my thing.

 

[Axolotl]

o yes one more thing U SIR R AND IDIOT, I LOVE THE MARIO AND LUIGI SERIES CUZ U CAN DOGE ATTACKS I HATE SITTING THERE WITH MY GUY HAVIN 1HP AND HE CANT MOVE 2 CENMETERS OUT OF THE WAY FOR 2 SECONDS SO HE WONT DIE!

I'm an Idiot because I like turn-based combat in RPGs? Have you played any RPGs with good turn-based combat?

 

[Fappy]

There are plenty of great JRPGs of old but sadly they have lost their charm imo

 

[Quaidis]

I like jrpgs. Each one is akin to opening a novel and enjoying myself for hours on end. I enjoy the different worlds, the witty characters, the usually beautiful art, and the many different ways to fight in a battle. I especially like it when some form of strategy is needed, but for some reason I do not have the patience to sit through a tactics rpg.

I am currently playing Shining Force EXA. It's a nice change of pace for the main characters to be protecting and building on a castle through the entire game opposed to wandering the world aimlessly looking for the next town or boss to battle. Even the voice talents are pleasant. So far, this is a well-made game. (It is also hack&slash instead of turn-based.)


Honestly, I came to this forum well over a year ago in hopes of coming across other people who played rpgs and enjoyed talking about them. I don't understand this hatred. But then again, this recent era of humanity is absolutely filled with hatred. No one can ever be satisfied anymore. They are given things they like, even things they like that are improved upon, and complain about nonsensical garbage in a vague aim to find some reason to hate it. Not all games are perfect, but I hope people will eventually get their heads out the mud and learn to enjoy themselves again. Go out and buy a game you think you will enjoy, and ignore the mass of infidels that tell you how much it sucks without any valid reason behind their negative bickering. The only reason not to buy a game, and feel free to quote me on this, is if the game has so many coding errors that it is impossible to play. Those games that the developer pushed out the door without testing everything and expects to fix things months later when enough people complain.

Pardon, I was ranting there.

As for me, I find quite a few decent series still. Right now I'm on a Kingdom Hearts binge, but I've easily come to the point that the series isn't for everyone. Xenogears and the Xenosaga series have great story, and 1 and 3 have decent game play, albeit a bit slow. The World Ends with You is a great jRPG, fast paced, and good characters if you can get through the first quarter of the game(Which I know can be a bit much for some). Final Fantasy Tactics(The PS one and PSP) has great character involved story, and is an sRPG as well, for people of that crowd.

No argument here. There's some jRPGs that are -great-. And there are some that are terrible. And some in between. And it's exactly the same with wRPGs. And they all have the same basic flaws.

wRPGs can really suck... don't pick up Shadow Madness. Ever.

I'm sorry, but it feels oddly satisfying that I wasn't the only person in this universe to play the mess known as Shadow Madness. That game was terrible. I have it on my shelf to remind me that there are worse games in existence, and to never make that mistake again.

 

[Axolotl]

no not cuz u like them it beacuse you think they cannot be critized beacuse u would rather have VATS in everygame but before you look at my list of good american rpgs and say" well u cant say stuff cuz u listed fallout 3 and its vats is like turn based" yeah well i dont use vats i just get my nuc launcher and blow shit up!

Oh dear god. I don't think that all turn-based combat is infallable but VATS isn't turn-based combat it's just a stupid god mode button.

o srry i forgot tp mention that yes i have played some rpgs with good turn based systems the first being fallout three beacuse u can shut-off the turn based system and cant use it for prolonged periods of time and also the MARIO AND LUIGI SERIES LIKE I MENTION IN THE SENTENCE U WERE QUOTING

FALLOUT 3 IS NOT TURN-BASED.

 

[DracoSuave]

I'm sorry, but it feels oddly satisfying that I wasn't the only person in this universe to play the mess known as Shadow Madness. That game was terrible. I have it on my shelf to remind me that there are worse games in existence, and to never make that mistake again.

Ted Woosley should have stuck to localizing videogames rather than writing them.

 

[Akisa]

Well then lets look at vats

preselect moves
carryout moves with no stopping them
having your enemy shoot u and let the odds decide if they hit

now that sounds turn based to me but im not saying all of it is im saying the part where u click a button that says "uh im no smart comuputer shoot for me"

Except your character is immune to damage while in VATS mode. Name one turn-base game where it's intentional that your character(s) is immune to all damage on a regular basis.

TBH I would like to see JRPG at least attempt the R in Role-Playing Games.

 

[Axolotl]

Well then lets look at vats

preselect moves
carryout moves with no stopping them
having your enemy shoot u and let the odds decide if they hit

now that sounds turn based to me but im not saying all of it is im saying the part where u click a button that says "uh im no smart comuputer shoot for me"

It's not turn-based because YOU DON'T TAKE TURNS! How hard is that to grasp? Turn Based is following the IGOUGO style. The ability to pause line up shots and not get attacked isn't turns when only one side can do it.

 

[NeutralDrow]

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Frankly, I don't mind turn-based combat at all, though ATB systems tend to be faster-paced and more exciting, like a lot of the Final Fantasy series (6 and 7, for example), Septerra Core, or Baten Kaitos Origins.

Still, I certainly wouldn't mind if more RPGs took some cues from the <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz38e5-wXgs>Tales series.

 

[Khazoth]

JRPGS are most certainly not all the same, they just have similar elements. Similar elements that some of us find akin to nails on a chalkboard.