Thank you!Marter said:I'm tired of hearing all of the "Your mom" jokes/retorts.
Best IRL troll ever.baggyn said:"What's the time?"
"Time you got a watch"
To be fair i find my self saying this sometimes so it's a bit hypocritical me posting it.
Ah, I saw your avatar and was reminded... why don't little kids ever play TF2?Randy11517 said:Thanks for reminding me.Slaanax said:The Word ****** of X-box Live, at what point do I want to listen to 13 year kids call people who kill them Niggers. Good thing they have the mute option.
Little kids calling everyone niggers/nazis
I view the film a bit less positively than you, but I agree with you for the most part and I'll accept your opinion. You seem like a pretty cool guy and you're clearly one of the movie's more rational fans.Furburt said:Eh, once anything gets popular, the weirdos start to crawl out of the woodwork. I mean, I liked Avatar, but people who are saying it's the best film of all time clearly don't know what they're talking about. It's a good film if you take it the right way, and it's a fun trip to the cinema if you're in the mood to just be entertained, but it's not the best film ever, it's not the film of the year, and it's not Cameron's best.L1250 said:I should probably mention that I don't hate Avatar as a movie (I'd describe it as "meh"); I hate how absurdly well-received it was for such an average movie. It made more money than any other movie ever, was critically-acclaimed, was nominated for an academy award for best picture of the year, and caused people to fall into depression because they could never hope to be as perfect as the movie's characters. I'd call it ridiculous, but that doesn't even begin to describe it.
The question is: to whom are you defending it? A person? With a reasonable idea, request, or preference? I think such "idiots" are, without fail, more important than business.JuryNelson said:My most hated line of reasoning: If you defend logic that serves business interests, you're a puppet or a flunky for the man. You don't have to worship it, just don't refuse to understand itFieryTrainwreck said:My most hated line of reasoning: if you complain about something that serves business interests, you're an idiot. We all must worship the almighty fucking dollar and all constructs designed to further its dominance - even at the expense of hobbies founded on raw entertainment value.JuryNelson said:and the one that makes my mouth foam:
"Why make something great when good sells better?" You don't sound smart or revolutionary any more, you just sound like you don't understand business.
The only reason people shouldn't repeat the quoted text? It's depressing. That doesn't mean it isn't 100% true.
Sort of why I hate to hear it (topic of post)FieryTrainwreck said:The question is: to whom are you defending it? A person? With a reasonable idea, request, or preference? I think such "idiots" are, without fail, more important than business.JuryNelson said:My most hated line of reasoning: If you defend logic that serves business interests, you're a puppet or a flunky for the man. You don't have to worship it, just don't refuse to understand itFieryTrainwreck said:My most hated line of reasoning: if you complain about something that serves business interests, you're an idiot. We all must worship the almighty fucking dollar and all constructs designed to further its dominance - even at the expense of hobbies founded on raw entertainment value.JuryNelson said:and the one that makes my mouth foam:
"Why make something great when good sells better?" You don't sound smart or revolutionary any more, you just sound like you don't understand business.
The only reason people shouldn't repeat the quoted text? It's depressing. That doesn't mean it isn't 100% true.
Then again, I'm also a firm believer that business, in general, is a vice tightening around the ballsack of all humanity. Under the unassailable flag of "tightening the leaks", business interests are pretty much strangling all the fun out of life. In fact, if business isn't doing so, it's not behaving correctly by its own fucking admission. It's evolutionary; in the absence of strict, well-meaning constraints, capitalism just runs right over people. It's so far out front, in this country as well as most of the world, that defending it is sort of like cheering for the Yankees outside of New York. It makes you a douche.
See: Activision. Blah blah blah typical anti-business ranter brings up company with the audacity to make money I know, I get it. Same line of reasoning used against bleeding hearts and academics - people with the audacity to care about other people and value fucking intelligence, respectively.
Sorry. I clearly can't have this discussion in any sort of constructive manner. You're right. I'm out.
Nah, I actually believe that business logic, unbound, is the scourge of humanity. I've given up arguing as much because we, as a species, are clearly incapable of pumping the brakes - and because the only necessary step on the road to having a disagreement is to open your fucking mouth. There's always someone who will twist reason, even his or her own, just to oppose you, and modern sensibilities insist he or she is given the same outlet and respect.JuryNelson said:Sort of why I hate to hear it (topic of post)
it's never constructive and it always boils down to two people taking sides on an argument they don't even really want to have. And we both argue WAY more radically than either of us actually believes.
If we're getting all meta and shit, then ANY kind of logic, unbound, is the scourge of humanity. It's that story "Al Persona." Every master he visits eventually has to be defeated by a new one because every single idea, taken to its logical extreme, is horrifying.FieryTrainwreck said:Nah, I actually believe that business logic, unbound, is the scourge of humanity. I've given up arguing as much because we, as a species, are clearly incapable of pumping the brakes - and because the only necessary step on the road to having a disagreement is to open your fucking mouth. There's always someone who will twist reason, even his or her own, just to oppose you, and modern sensibilities insist he or she is given the same outlet and respect.JuryNelson said:Sort of why I hate to hear it (topic of post)
it's never constructive and it always boils down to two people taking sides on an argument they don't even really want to have. And we both argue WAY more radically than either of us actually believes.
Moderation in all things, of course, no argument there. The point I try to make is this: regardless of what force you believe opposes business, there is little doubt that business is absolutely crushing it. The sensible, middle-of-the-road people, at this point, are the ones trying to prod the beast of capitalism back into its cage. A pro-business stance, today, is akin to sitting on top of the boulder already rolling down the hill.JuryNelson said:If we're getting all meta and shit, then ANY kind of logic, unbound, is the scourge of humanity. It's that story "Al Persona." Every master he visits eventually has to be defeated by a new one because every single idea, taken to its logical extreme, is horrifying.FieryTrainwreck said:Nah, I actually believe that business logic, unbound, is the scourge of humanity. I've given up arguing as much because we, as a species, are clearly incapable of pumping the brakes - and because the only necessary step on the road to having a disagreement is to open your fucking mouth. There's always someone who will twist reason, even his or her own, just to oppose you, and modern sensibilities insist he or she is given the same outlet and respect.JuryNelson said:Sort of why I hate to hear it (topic of post)
it's never constructive and it always boils down to two people taking sides on an argument they don't even really want to have. And we both argue WAY more radically than either of us actually believes.
I don't like people who take an anti-business stance just to be anti-business. Business is Economy and Economy is the reason anyone ever has a job or money or food or a family or a future. There is a thing that is the way things ARE and there is a thing that is the way things SHOULD BE, and these two are never the same and the latter is never the same for more than one person at a time.
Utopian arguments are almost never worth having. It's like the windchill thing. Or price before tax. "Don't tell me how things WOULD be if they were PERFECT." that's not useful.