Things you will always defend.

Recommended Videos
Sep 14, 2009
9,071
0
0
Darken12 said:
gmaverick019 said:
Darken12 said:
sex positivism, sex negativism, sex neutralism
curious, what are those specifically? a quick google search on one of them didn't come up with anything conclusive so i figured i'd just ask the source.
Sex positivism is the noun for the more commonly known sex positive [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_positive] movement. Basically, sex positivism is the idea that sex is an inherently positive thing, sex negativism is that sex is an inherently negative thing, and sex neutralism is that sex is an inherently neutral thing.

The reason I defend all three simultaneously is that I see a difference between personal and societal attitudes towards sex. I support only sex positivism as a societal attitude, but I support all three as personal attitudes. I believe that people should have the right to see sex as inherently positive, negative or neutral, but that the healthiest and most beneficial of all three attitudes to adopt on a societal level is sex positivism.
ah i see, well i could definitely get behind that, your exact reasoning even. thanks for explaining it, didn't realize there would be an actual movement for it.
 

Kolby Jack

Come at me scrublord, I'm ripped
Apr 29, 2011
2,518
0
0
Sonic the Hedgehog. Even more-so now because his latest string of games have been generally recognized as pretty good. Yet still there are people saying stupid things like "There's never been a good 3D Sonic game" or "SEGA should just let Sonic die!" I'm not saying things weren't bad there around the time of '06 and Shadow the Hedgehog, because those games were legitimately awful. But even Unleashed (which most still say wasn't very good) I will defend because it introduced the new Sonic play-style that many people like and will probably be the basis of new 3D Sonic games for years to come. If you don't like Sonic, just say "I don't like Sonic." Don't be an ass-hat and say "SONIC SUCKS AND SHOULD DIE FOREVER!!!" Because by popular opinion, that isn't the case.

Also, Sonic is the best character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. YEA I SAID IT! BOOP-BE-DOOP-BOOP!!! BOOPITY-BOP!!!
 

MeChaNiZ3D

New member
Aug 30, 2011
3,102
0
0
Seperation of religion and society, Dark Souls being an excellent game, pomeranians being the most adorable dogs (bar none I tell you), and I try to be against sexism and racism, despite somehow being both of these things (according to who you ask), videogame violence, freedom of speech/expression.

Although I wouldn't necessarily defend all these things regardless of context, which is a big ask.

Also, something I will always attack: Consitutional monarchy for Australia. I found a Facebook page on it once, and despite not being active about the issue, I thought "hey, I support a republic. Maybe there's an argument to be had". And the amount of sensationalism that goes on by people who basically just like the royal family, accusing those in favour of a republic of being racist, or manipulated by Aborigines (as if), or wanting to strip Australia of its culture and history, is ridiculous.
 

Darken12

New member
Apr 16, 2011
1,061
0
0
gmaverick019 said:
ah i see, well i could definitely get behind that, your exact reasoning even. thanks for explaining it, didn't realize there would be an actual movement for it.
No problem! I'm always glad to spread the word, so to speak.
 

loc978

New member
Sep 18, 2010
4,897
0
0
Someone on facebook failed to realize that it's not just pasty basement dwellers who play games?

He'd better hope he's wrong, or some US Marine who just got done with a friendly barracks FPS tournament might rip his spine out...
 

Da Orky Man

Yeah, that's me
Apr 24, 2011
2,104
0
0
The vast majority of people here are posting sane, sensible things to defend without considering the wide range of implausible conditions and situations that my brain immediately leapt to, like if aliens used to mind-ray that made all people with at least 1/4 Welsh descent incredibly callous, strong and prone to fits of murderous insanity, therefore making it not only acceptable but necessary for personal survival to discriminate against those with Welsh descent.
I am disappointed in you all.

Anyway, even taking the above statement into consideration, the one thing I would most certainly defend is the concept and act of scepticism (Or skepticism).
All beliefs should be challenged every now and again, just to make sure that they're still the right ones. You wouldn't just virus scan your computer once, so you should, on occasion, scan your brain for bullshit that may have gotten in there. Question your beliefs constantly, make sure they're still good. Failure to do so leads to stagnation, and that way leads to discrimination, genocide and gone-off milk.

And for any burgeoning White Knights[sup]TM[/sup] out there, I'm Welsh myself, so it doesn't count as racism, ha!
 

ToastiestZombie

Don't worry. Be happy!
Mar 21, 2011
3,689
0
0
Da Orky Man said:
The vast majority of people here are posting sane, sensible things to defend without considering the wide range of implausible conditions and situations that my brain immediately leapt to, like if aliens used to mind-ray that made all people with at least 1/4 Welsh descent incredibly callous, strong and prone to fits of murderous insanity, therefore making it not only acceptable but necessary for personal survival to discriminate against those with Welsh descent.
I am disappointed in you all.

Anyway, even taking the above statement into consideration, the one thing I would most certainly defend is the concept and act of scepticism (Or skepticism).
All beliefs should be challenged every now and again, just to make sure that they're still the right ones. You wouldn't just virus scan your computer once, so you should, on occasion, scan your brain for bullshit that may have gotten in there. Question your beliefs constantly, make sure they're still good. Failure to do so leads to stagnation, and that way leads to discrimination, genocide and gone-off milk.

And for any burgeoning White Knights[sup]TM[/sup] out there, I'm Welsh myself, so it doesn't count as racism, ha!
What's, in your opinion, the small minority? Be honest, I'd like to know.

I'm Welsh too, and us Welsh are bloody bastards. Most of us, the rest are too busy having sex with sheep. (Joke)

Another OT:
I guess another thing I'll always defend is innocent until proven guilty, in ANY case. I've had a lot of hatred directed towards me because, when the news says so-and-so is being investigated in suspicion of *insert crime, most likely sexual assault here* I don't go "What a terrible human being!". They have not been proven guilty or charged yet, and claims always have the chance of being a false accusation, so I won't write them off as horrible.
 

Olas

Hello!
Dec 24, 2011
3,226
0
0
I'll defend my religion, all religious institutions that promote peace and love, and the concept of religious freedom as a whole.

Nintendo, their "gimmicks" and their strong allegiance to their own history and the culture that they've cultivated.

Mass Effect 3, even it's ending because though it may not be great it's still not deserving of the hate it receives.

Half-Life 2 deserving it's reputation of being one of the greatest games of the last decade.

oh and gay rights/equality/minorities rights/women's rights/freedom of speech/etc. Of course.
 

Pink Gregory

New member
Jul 30, 2008
2,296
0
0
New games; mainly because I'm SO. FUCKING. SICK. of uninformed people beating the 'OLD GAMES GOOD, NEW GAMES BAD' drum. Age does not matter.
 

Bruenin

New member
Nov 9, 2011
766
0
0
The Wykydtron said:
Oh and all those people going on about art and gaming are going at it the wrong way, it's not "games are art" which can be countered so hard by just pointing at CoD or similar because that's an absolute statement. It's "games have the capacity to be art" which is more accurate and easy to prove by pointing at Bastion or some such.
That's the same way I feel about video games as art :p, people seem to take it in absolutes and assume every single thing has to be an art piece and that it'd ruin gaming as entertainment or whatever. There are some games that are artistic in nature and some for just fun :p some are even both :D

Though I have to find myself defending art in general because the people around here seem to think it's the most worthless thing ever and artists are lazy and blah blah and have a really condescending view of it.
 

Wolf In A Bear Suit

New member
Jun 2, 2012
519
0
0
A persons right to belong to a religion. Nothing annoys me more than someone condemning someone elses beliefs. For instance I'm a Catholic, I believe in god, and I genuinely don't care if you do or don't. Most of my friends don't and I enjoy talking about how the old pope looks like a sith as much as the next man, but my god. I can't stand someone matter of factly telling me I'm wrong. I don't mind people condemning the actions of a religious group, no one is beyond reproach. Just don't tar everyone with the same brush if you do ;)
 

JemothSkarii

Thanks!
Nov 9, 2010
1,169
0
0
The only things I can think of is that games can have stories on par with books or film and that horse racing is bad (mkay?). Apart from that....I'm not really bothered. There are things that I like (i.e Bethesda, Capcom) but I won't zealously defend them.

As for LGBT, Feminism and such...I can go for equality, but I won't actively fight for it.

*raises the flame shield*
 

vid87

New member
May 17, 2010
737
0
0
1)Gay marriage

2)You should not be confined to pre-determined roles, gender-based or otherwise

3)Violence is not inherently bad and can actually be a positive force and a thing of beauty(ie martial arts, choreography)

4)A film or other adaptation based on seemingly stupid source material can reach a level of substance and meaning if you dig hard enough and, despite Hollywood's growing reliance on popular brands for franchise building, is the responsibility of show-runners to present them in a way that's interesting, intelligent, respectful to the original story, and gets people to look at a familiar idea in a new way (ie Batman, Spiderman, Batman, Avengers, BATMAN). This one in particular I honestly and truly wish we could apply to video game based movies - can you imagine how amazing it would be to walk out of a Street Fighter or Legend of Zelda film and actually feel better off emotionally and intellectually for the experience?
 

Silvanus

Elite Member
Legacy
Jan 15, 2013
13,971
7,244
118
Country
United Kingdom
Bruenin said:
That's the same way I feel about video games as art :p, people seem to take it in absolutes and assume every single thing has to be an art piece and that it'd ruin gaming as entertainment or whatever. There are some games that are artistic in nature and some for just fun :p some are even both :D
Preeeecisely. I've been told more than once that video games are not art because Citizen Kane, which is just such a ludicrous view.


Nobody's claiming all video games are brilliant art, that's such an imagined argument. Books are accepted as an art form; you don't have people saying they don't count, because some movies are better than some books.

Sure, Citizen Kane is art, and Call of Duty is much less so. But on the same merit, Shadow of the Colossus has far more artistic validity than Battlefield Earth, thankyouverymuch.
 

DoomyMcDoom

New member
Jul 4, 2008
1,410
0
0
I can't think of anything that I will "Always defend" as when it comes down to it, I go through periods of extreme apathy/depression where even if someone was stabbing me I'd probably just let them kill me, so always isn't exactly the best term, What I'm most likely to defend? Well children, or anyone too weak or small to defend themselves, I try when/wherever I'm able to defend the rights of people to be who they are, and not be fucked with by others for it, this includes free speech and all other forms of expression, so long as it doesn't directly harm others.

As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if you're different, you're still human, and all of us should have an equal right to compete in this world, in whatever way we feel we should decide to.
 

Tyler Trahan

New member
Sep 27, 2011
44
0
0
The importance of understanding history is incredibly important to me. I've been fascinated with history ever since I first picked up a color picture book about the American Civil War in 1st or 2nd grade and now I'm working on my bachelors degree in history. Because of my understanding of history I knew that the recession that hit the US (and the world) was gonna happen in 06: that is not be gloating, more like me lamenting that some teenage schmuck caught on because the exact same thing happened during the FUCKING GREAT DEPRESSION but the adults who were getting paid millions to pay attention couldn't be fucked to know their history.

History gives me empathy. Reading about the experiences of men and women in times of war, famine, disaster and strife not only helps me put my life in perspective but also helps me connect to people that have gone through so much that I will most likely never experience for myself. It shows us the mistakes of the past (because trust me, a lot of the same shit goes down every couple hundred years or so), yet so few people actually pay attention to it so the same mistakes get made. I am very passionate about it.

I am also huge into women's rights. Not so much that women should get any special benefits, but that women should be treated exactly the same as men (to an extent: there are SOME differences between the genders that cannot be ignored.) My mom and aunt played baseball with boys through high school, my sister was in the military and they are some of the strongest people I know. If a woman wants to fight for her country, play football, carry a gun and do any number of stereotypical "manly" things they should be allowed. HOWEVER, you can't say you want to be treated the same as men and then use your breasts to get your way, it doesn't work like that in my book lol
 

Ryan Minns

New member
Mar 29, 2011
308
0
0
I'll always defend my stance that certain keywords some people attempt to use to further their arguments should result in an immediate dismissal of said person as an intelligent being. Though this is probably a stance everyone has with just the specific key words changed around
 

lacktheknack

Je suis joined jewels.
Jan 19, 2009
19,305
0
0
I'm unabashedly pro-religion, and will defend freedom of religion and oppose anti-theism until the day I die.

Apparently, however, there is one thing that eclipses my defense of religion, and that is... defense of random number generators.

I managed to get worked into such a froth at someone utterly failing to understand how XCOM's random number generator works that I got a thread locked. I didn't know I had that in me. (Sorry, mods... it probably won't happen again...)
 

NoeL

New member
May 14, 2011
841
0
0
I'll always defend scepticism, ethical scientific enquiry, and that individuals should carry equal rights under law.

EDIT:
lacktheknack said:
I'm unabashedly pro-religion, and will defend freedom of religion and oppose anti-theism until the day I die.
Pro-religion in what sense? I'm an antitheist myself (i.e. I believe religion does more harm than good) but I would never seek to legislate against practicing religion or silence the voices of the religious. As long as the religious activities don't directly harm others I strongly support freedom of religion (for example I don't believe practicing child sacrifice, genital mutilation (including male circumcision), or forcing a minor to undergo homosexual conversion therapy should be legal, but people are free to worship deities and wear silly hats to their heart's content).

Then there's the issue of whether or not we should give myths and legends the same consideration as science and demonstrable facts; should we prosecute parents that pray for sick children instead of taking them to a doctor? I believe we should - being woefully uninformed isn't considered justification for negligence, so neither should believing nonsense. As the responsible guarding of another individual I believe people have an obligation to NOT be woefully uninformed, and that the state has an obligation to protect said individual if their carer's ignorance is clearly harming them.

I'm curious to see how far, if at all, your views deviate from my own.