If you want a simplistic linear plot, that's fine, but some of us like like a complex, realistic open world. The main quest of New Vegas is less about a single story and more about the world, the plots, schemes, and diplomacy between four factions on the brink of open war, and the Courier taking advantage of the situation to make the wasteland what he will. I find this much more engaging than "go to point x, shoot person y, retrieve item z, repeat." Meanwhile we have good characterization, good mechanics, great writing, etc.Delsana said:
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"Open world" does not mean "more complex plot that isn't linear".Suncatcher said:
Both Fallout's had very linear plots with one fork and a few ways to get back to that fork.
The "factions at war" thing really wasn't done all that well and the quests weren't all that interesting for the most part. I love story, but Vegas had little going for it as well as some really bad bugs.
If you want Fallout for what it is, for what millions of fans love it for then get 1 and 2. You'll get the complete Fallout package with that. All the humour, the fun and sense of awesome that made so many fall in love with it.
If you get a hard-on for slightly better graphics (I say slightly because lets face it Gamebyro is outdated and wank)and a stiffy for Iron sights then jump straight into the bug filled mess of New vegas.
And when I say buggy, I mean buggy. People will spawn in floors, your game will crash, limbs on corpses will stretch out and then fly around the room in a really creepy way, people's heads will spin on their shoulders, hell some people even spawn without skin and just walk around as a pile of bones with their insides attached to them.
If graphics glitches don't bother you like they bother me, then go nuts on it, it's a great game. But if you're anything like me and graphics glitches on the scale of what I've described scare you then just Wiki the hell out of the game and dream of all the fun you've missed but the sanity you've kept.
Fallout 1 and 2 are old, but they are great.
I'm just hoping the new Skyrim engine doesn't bug out as bad as the others.
If you get a hard-on for slightly better graphics (I say slightly because lets face it Gamebyro is outdated and wank)and a stiffy for Iron sights then jump straight into the bug filled mess of New vegas.
And when I say buggy, I mean buggy. People will spawn in floors, your game will crash, limbs on corpses will stretch out and then fly around the room in a really creepy way, people's heads will spin on their shoulders, hell some people even spawn without skin and just walk around as a pile of bones with their insides attached to them.
If graphics glitches don't bother you like they bother me, then go nuts on it, it's a great game. But if you're anything like me and graphics glitches on the scale of what I've described scare you then just Wiki the hell out of the game and dream of all the fun you've missed but the sanity you've kept.
Fallout 1 and 2 are old, but they are great.
I'm just hoping the new Skyrim engine doesn't bug out as bad as the others.
You're just getting into Fallout (pardon the pun), so the Lore breaking thing of 1,2,NV getting broken by 3. I wouldn't say its too much of a problem (flame shield activated!). The action takes place on opposite sides of the USA.
Anyway, New Vegas has more tuned up gameplay but a smaller world to use, less interesting locales than 3 and a more 'pure' Fallout experience.
Fallout 3 is the better game in my opinion, but get the Game Of The Year edition to get all the 5 DLC with the game. New Vegas has less in it which is a major problem for me.
All in all, buy Fallout 3 Game of the Year. A good starting point not tied up in the lore but accept that what you're shown is not the same as the original presentation of them in 1, 2 and New Vegas.
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Anyway, New Vegas has more tuned up gameplay but a smaller world to use, less interesting locales than 3 and a more 'pure' Fallout experience.
Fallout 3 is the better game in my opinion, but get the Game Of The Year edition to get all the 5 DLC with the game. New Vegas has less in it which is a major problem for me.
All in all, buy Fallout 3 Game of the Year. A good starting point not tied up in the lore but accept that what you're shown is not the same as the original presentation of them in 1, 2 and New Vegas.
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Thank you for saying everything I wanted to on the subject in a tight argumented post.People who say Fallout 3 is incredible and NV is shite have never actually played the originals to know what the canon and feel of the games is.Turing said:
Infact Fallout Tactics had more flair and athmosphere despite being strictly out of the canon than the stretched too think,dark and gray Fallout 3.
If you've never played a Fallout game before, but you're interested in getting into them, I'd say follow the path I took.
Fallout 3
Then Fallout: New Vegas
Then the old ones if you still want more.
They're all good, and they're each a different experience. For you, though, I highly recommend Fallout 3. Don't let the old-timey buzzards turn you off when they say "It was the worst game ever!" It's great.
Obviously I have a wee bit of bias because Fallout 3 is my favouritest game ever. I even got Malcolm McDowell to sign my copy.
Fallout 3
Then Fallout: New Vegas
Then the old ones if you still want more.
They're all good, and they're each a different experience. For you, though, I highly recommend Fallout 3. Don't let the old-timey buzzards turn you off when they say "It was the worst game ever!" It's great.
Obviously I have a wee bit of bias because Fallout 3 is my favouritest game ever. I even got Malcolm McDowell to sign my copy.
You liked Broken Steel which was a linear shoot em up with OP loot but you disliked Point Lookout and The Pitt.Each to their own I guess but still funny to hear xD.Delsana said:
As for NV:Sierra Madre was a real innovation in what a dlc can represent with an amazing story and many references,while Honest Hearts was kind of bland,discovering the story behind the whole place made it seem all magical and I can't forget to mention Old World Blues which had amazingly witty dialogue and an oddball humor much akin to a sci-fi B movie.
Fallout 3, i love the entire series (though still unsure about NV) but the ones before r old turn based rpgs that while i love, i know a lot of people who dont and think its jsut a waste of time.
So go for fallous 3, its the most popular one so most likely to get you into it.
So go for fallous 3, its the most popular one so most likely to get you into it.
There are two ways I would start: the first way is to start with New Vegas for two very important reasons 1 and this is a biggie Fallout canon is taken into account rather than being used as a "see this is a Fallout game" like 3 did and 2 it has official inclusion of the best Fallout 3 mods and it makes the gameplay much better.
Or the alternative you could play Fallout 1 so you can get the story going in to 2 and to appreciate the tweaks they add to Fallout 2 (you can finally manage companion inventories now YAY) and if you feel the need get rid of the time limit through mods
Or the alternative you could play Fallout 1 so you can get the story going in to 2 and to appreciate the tweaks they add to Fallout 2 (you can finally manage companion inventories now YAY) and if you feel the need get rid of the time limit through mods
Well, as have already been said here, the mechanics (By mechanics I mean, weapons, perks, etc. Graphics are the same in both) in New Vegas are better, however I felt waaaaaayy more immersive in Fallout 3, although the story is retarded, the atmosphere there is awesome.
So since this is your first game and you wanna know what Fallout is about, go with the 3 (IMO).
So since this is your first game and you wanna know what Fallout is about, go with the 3 (IMO).
Point Lookout had bugs all over that I couldn't finish it, had crashes, had ridiculously imbalanced gameplay and again was just too repetitive that it drained me.Hristo Tzonkov said:
The Pitt was boring and while not that imbalanced it just wasn't all that fun, especially the steel ingots thing.
The Sierra Madre was ridiculously imbalanced (difficulty is one thing but imbalance in an RPG is a horrible sin) and the Old World Blues was just too generic and basic for me to get into, plus the imbalances that seem to be full in DLC except in the main game (very little imbalance there). Honest Hearts was bland even with the story. I doubt the newest DLC will be that different.
there also on gog and gog is better to buy games on also they dont apear on steam for me xDVaudevillianVeteran said:
OT: Fallout 2 its the best in the series by a longshot then Fallout 1 or New Vegas
People will have diverse opinions on them, but I think all the Fallout games are great. I suggest you start with Fallout 3 Game of the Year, it's a good introduction to the universe. Then, get Fallout 1 and 2, or if you don't like older turn based games watch a Lets' Plays of them at least. Finally get Fallout: New Vegas and at least Old World Blues and Lonesome Road DLC.
Somehow, the prospect of being a pornstar in fallout 2 leans me towards buying fallout 2 RIGHT now at this moment in time...GameMaNiAC said:Entropyutd said:
Are you kidding me? I hope that was a typo. Fallout 2 is the best Fallout game. EVER.
You fucking get to be a porn star, stab people in the balls, gouge their eyes out and even throw a spear into someone's face. The combat system was so much better than Fallout 3/New Vegas'.
Strangely I was just told about GOG today, and I totally agree, a lot less expensive.Veldie said:
Despite many Gamers today not even being alive when Fallout 1 or 2 came out; they are where anyone who is interested in the soul of Fallout should start. Fallout 2 will forever be the game that got me into gaming, it is just such a absorbing game and the amount of choice and actions is mind blowing.
Not to mention it is the only game where you could sell yourself for money and cheaper drugs. New Vegas is the hands down better than the other newer Fallout. Fallout 3 is like having Zelda in space and space chickens, it may be Zelda in name but really all it does is make fans angry.
Not to mention it is the only game where you could sell yourself for money and cheaper drugs. New Vegas is the hands down better than the other newer Fallout. Fallout 3 is like having Zelda in space and space chickens, it may be Zelda in name but really all it does is make fans angry.
it has no DRM or anything if you dont like that which who dues like DRM?VaudevillianVeteran said:
Stick to getting Fallout 2 first and formost tho its by far the best series tho you may want to play a few chars and try and get ahold of the controls and such til you get the hang of things :3
Fallout 3 and New Vegas are unrelated, so there's no real reason to play Fallout 3 before New Vegas.
Biggest reason to check out Fallout 3 first is that GOTY edition is nicely cheap and features some cool DLC. Even the worst of the bunch have some great equipment that makes them worth playing. It has a simple karma system which really doesn't affect the game overly much one way or the other. Very much a hostile world, so most of your missions are going to be fighting.
But I prefer New Vegas which has various factions that give you side missions. Decent number of good guys to choose from and a couple of bad guys, so pick a general good or evil bent and only burn your bridges when you absolutely have to. But what I enjoy about it is that you're around communities, so there's plenty of opportunity to explore and talk to people in a safe environment. Put on some sexy underwear, a red beret, and some sunglasses and cruise the strip.
Otherwise, the biggest difference is that New Vegas has some areas that hard-wired difficult. Fallout 3 adjusts to your level, so you can pretty much pick a direction and explore. While in New Vegas, taking the most direct route to the strip will see you die insanely quickly because you'll be completely unprepared to deal with the enemies found there... and there's plenty of little pockets like that all over the place. Stick to the roads and civilization and you should be okay. Head out into the wilderness until you level up and you'll soon be dead.
Biggest reason to check out Fallout 3 first is that GOTY edition is nicely cheap and features some cool DLC. Even the worst of the bunch have some great equipment that makes them worth playing. It has a simple karma system which really doesn't affect the game overly much one way or the other. Very much a hostile world, so most of your missions are going to be fighting.
But I prefer New Vegas which has various factions that give you side missions. Decent number of good guys to choose from and a couple of bad guys, so pick a general good or evil bent and only burn your bridges when you absolutely have to. But what I enjoy about it is that you're around communities, so there's plenty of opportunity to explore and talk to people in a safe environment. Put on some sexy underwear, a red beret, and some sunglasses and cruise the strip.
Otherwise, the biggest difference is that New Vegas has some areas that hard-wired difficult. Fallout 3 adjusts to your level, so you can pretty much pick a direction and explore. While in New Vegas, taking the most direct route to the strip will see you die insanely quickly because you'll be completely unprepared to deal with the enemies found there... and there's plenty of little pockets like that all over the place. Stick to the roads and civilization and you should be okay. Head out into the wilderness until you level up and you'll soon be dead.
I've wanted to play both of the first Fallout games, but I'll take that advice, thanks. :3 I just gotta hope that I can get a computer that can actually handle gaming first. XDVeldie said: