This "cod hate" is getting out of hand.

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Cogwheel

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I agree somewhat, but at the same time, cod IS getting old.

I suggest we move to another franchise. Highly Amusing Destruction Derby of Cataclysmic Konsequences (because everything needs to be spelled oddly these days).

Or HADDoCK for short.
 

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Even if you dislike the people who play CoD, you gotta respect Infinity Ward for bringing the monster that is the franchise to life. It uses fancy psychology stuff, like 'partial reinforcement' - Basically the same theory on how gambling works. No matter how much the game itself sucks, it's pretty amazing that Activision has a system that will rope in millions of people to pay (at least) $60 a year, and spend hundreds of hours on their products.
 

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The main post is too ranty and filled with trollish/troll bait stuff to read all the way.

I can say though, Call of Duty is overpriced, badly designed, lazy, and rehashed. Dont think theres an arguement there, Call of Duty is just so vocal and loud about itself, when it comes up, people keep on topic by pointing out, for example, the fact that the teaser trailer looked exactly the same as the teaser for MW2.

Its always been the same level of disdain after Black Ops, Call of Duty just advertises the crap out of itself and people comment on things.

Naturaly, people will comment on how overpriced, badly designed, lazy, and rehashed it is.


And to quote someone above me who's name I cant remember,

"I guess I'm of the MovieBob opinion where I just don't like seeing the generic make money because it means that the TRULY golden projects get shoved aside. To me, CoD is practically shovelware at this point."

Seeing Transformers break records, and actually well made films like Thor and First Class be considered disapointments, breeds contempt for Transformers even more. Call of Duty is the gaming industry's Tranformers
 

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killzone 3 made crouching a toggle option and let me put aiming on the L2, that some significant improvements. it also added a really fun MP mode that is limited to 3 maps for some inexplicable reason.
also successful =/= good.
and what we really hate is the yearly release, the lack of real change, the 15$ map packs and the fans who eat that shit up and ask for seconds.
 

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Gunner 51 said:
I don't think people are hating on COD per se. But rather the people who play it - especially those who are immature and spend their time screaming obscenities into their headsets whenever they get killed.

I think the COD franchise is getting pretty stale and all of it's games are nothing more than a re-hashing. But unfortunately, it's an annual re-hashing. As the saying goes, familiarity breeds contempt.

But with the advances in technology, I expect to see slightly better graphics each time or a better campaign mode or even DLC which should have been on the disc to start with to go along with it's slowly increasing price tag.

COD is poster boy, a yardstick or a mirror of the gaming industry. People aren't liking what they see. They see an overpriced flash-in-the-pan which was made in some Activision sponsored sweat-shop which not only isn't a particularly good game, but it's also riddled with cheats and glitchers.

While this could be said for any game which a hater doesn't like - COD will get the brunt of it because it's considered cool to hate that which is en vogue. Hate COD for being overpriced and bad value for money - but don't hate it because of who plays it. It's just pretentious.
Honestly most franchises outhere are doing it and no you wont see any advance in techology on dated consoles when the gam runs on 60 fps. What is so weird about that?
xxmyhero64xx said:
MY problem with COD is that I'm just tired of it. I don't want to see it for a while. I'm not arguing with you that it's a successful franchise. I am however completely fatigued and I think some people are as well.
Fair enough and i got tired of bf which i play since the first and i can understand i am only pointing out that everything one can say about cod can be said for most game franchises outhere. Yet only cod gets it
Ruiner87 said:
I'd hardly say it's getting out of hand. The people that hate Call of Duty are mostly correct. It's the same recycled crap every single year, with one or two new features added in. Add to that, the fact that the series has one of the worst communities in the history of online gaming, and you've got a perfect recipe for something that people will bash day in and day out. Nevermind the fact that it popularized many of the gameplay features (regenerating health, continuation of the two-weapon system) that die-hard shooter fans hate.

These aspects don't stop me from enjoying the Call of Duty series, however. The 30 days of playtime that I have spread out across Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops can attest to that.
Honestly? you are the kind of people i am talking about, its not cod that its "rehashed" its everything so lets not been biased about it, in any case from 18 million people, no matter how many you played with, you can generalize the entire community on some douchebags, like another user said in a similar thread, "its the squaky wheel that gets the grease"
 

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Actually games like Dead Space, Killzone, etc made adjustments to the gameplay for the sequels. The COD games do very little in that department, repeating the same run, shoot, run, uncontrollable set piece, level end pattern.

Hell I used to be a COD fan but some things just get boring.

Take Assassins Creed for example, at it's core the gameplay is pretty much the same but as the series progresses improvements have been made. The core of the series is the same but its extremities keep expanding.

Now everything COD has could do has been done in a previous game and the multiplayer is running dry. Yet the fans of the series will still play it until the next game in the series dies out.
 

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Just like Halo, I hate the Players not the Game. Both CoD and Halo are shining examples of how bad Online Multiplayer can be and it just sours any enjoyment you can have from a game when you have to put up with some of the most obnoxious people on the planet just to play a multiplayer match. "Mute them then" is usually the first port of call for a complaint like that to which the only response is, why don't those idiots grow up and act respectfully towards others instead of throwing around sexist / racist / homophobic comments for absolutely no reason.
 

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Dramerc said:
"there are only 2 stalker games i believe,so not much will change yes. but once again you went somewhere NEW and wasnt doing the same objective as last time,plus you got new toys to play with (how you do that with a prequel i dont know xD) and i just acknowledged that some of those problems exist but your unfairly comparing them.
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3 stalker games Shadow of Chernobyl Clear sky and Call of Pripyat. and that Fanboy thing do you people even watch videos on here? Extra Credits went over Fanboy you really need to watch that ep
Hey am just trying to figure this out, but i think i pointed out that stalker and doom 2 are more recycled.I LIKE all those games thats why i am trying to figure out what is going on since i see it on almost every game everywhere and i dont mind.
ninja51 said:
The main post is too ranty and filled with trollish/troll bait stuff to read all the way.

I can say though, Call of Duty is overpriced, badly designed, lazy, and rehashed. Dont think theres an arguement there, Call of Duty is just so vocal and loud about itself, when it comes up, people keep on topic by pointing out, for example, the fact that the teaser trailer looked exactly the same as the teaser for MW2.

Its always been the same level of disdain after Black Ops, Call of Duty just advertises the crap out of itself and people comment on things.

Naturaly, people will comment on how overpriced, badly designed, lazy, and rehashed it is.
Trolling? what? i like all those games thats why i cant figure out why pick on cod and not the game i mentioned. I guess i should have included it in my post, as i said, the same thing "looks the same as the last game" can be said for all those games, when i lookd kz3, it looked like the second, when i saw dead space 2 it looked like the first, in e3 i saw uncharted 3, spiderman edge of time and assasin's creed revelations and they all looked like the last game. I dont see how its only cod that is "recycled"
 

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As for cod being for 4 hours? Well their competitors moh and homefront were 3 hours with a far weaker campaign.
yes and nearly no one liked those games as they were worse then call of duty with meh multiplayer (CoD has terrible multiplayer) but the difference is that we aren't subjected to a new moh and hoimefront every 8-12 months, and it doesn't have a giant fan base who calls it the best game ever. It is the same reason people hate twilight, it is not just because it is a terrible movie, I mean there are far worse movies but it's fan base seems to praise twilight as the bast movie ever and that is what pisses people like movie buffs off.
 

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Another comment: Anyone that says they truly "hate" a game is an idiot. Sure, you can dislike it. It doesn't have to be your 'cup of tea'. You can not want to deal with annoying players, and say that a majority of them are pains in the ass. But saying you actually HATE it? Now that just seems silly.
 

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As long as the games continue to be good, and as long as I don't get screwed out of my money with stupid subscription based shit, I'll keep buying them.

What pisses me off, is how people look towards Battlefield 3 as some sort of lord and saviour. Don't get me wrong I love Battlefield, more so than CoD, but good God I wish people would shut the fuck up about it.

You know what's going to happen if Battlefield makes a shit-ton of money? EA will do the same thing with Battlefield that Activision does with CoD. They'll find ways to bleed you dry out of your money because they know they can get it. How long will it be before everyone becomes sick of Battlefield and wishes Shooter-X would kick it in the nuts?
 

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I think it's because of the fact that a new Call of Duty comes out every year.
Not many other game series have a game releases every year, so while those other games you mentioned have similarities to their predecessors, they're usually released at longer intervals, and therefore somewhat "less repetitive."
I hope I made some sort of sense there.
 

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Jezzy54 said:
But I do hate cod, it's nowhere near as good as salmon.
As much as we really shouldn't derail the topic like this, good call. Salmon is amazing.

Come over here some time, we get salmon coming up the river in november. Really.
 

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Jezzy54 said:
But I do hate cod, it's nowhere near as good as salmon.
lol.

Anyway the only reason people hate cod is because its popular.....because its good....because its popular....

Hate is a funny thing isn't it?
 

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AVATAR_RAGE said:
Actually games like Dead Space, Killzone, etc made adjustments to the gameplay for the sequels. The COD games do very little in that department, repeating the same run, shoot, run, uncontrollable set piece, level end pattern.

Hell I used to be a COD fan but some things just get boring.

Take Assassins Creed for example, at it's core the gameplay is pretty much the same but as the series progresses improvements have been made. The core of the series is the same but its extremities keep expanding.

Now everything COD has could do has been done in a previous game and the multiplayer is running dry. Yet the fans of the series will still play it until the next game in the series dies out.
Am sorry i dont see it. People said the same about uncharted 2, that is a huge improvment on the first, well it wanst, itw as pretty much the same and thats why i liked it. Being a big fan of dead space, i fail to see what the big improvement in the second, its the same game with new weapons and a jetpack instead of reversed gravity and the hacking puzzles. Assasin's creed brotherhood is EXACTLY like ac2 but with the brotherhood feature and you can buy more stuff...oh and cannons. The revelations trailer showed that its he same thing, same gameplay same graphics same cannons.

Suprisingly all those games have the same graphics.

I dont really see how cod is any less or how thse games are bigger improvements.

MW2 added killstreaks and revolutionized the way mp fps are nowdays, hell even crysis 2 copied that feature. Black ops made the game more balanced and killed quickscoping and added a new buying system. Those things really mean alot in mp considering i liked one of them and disliked the other one. So i wouldnt say its "the same game"
EonEire said:
Just like Halo, I hate the Players not the Game. Both CoD and Halo are shining examples of how bad Online Multiplayer can be and it just sours any enjoyment you can have from a game when you have to put up with some of the most obnoxious people on the planet just to play a multiplayer match. "Mute them then" is usually the first port of call for a complaint like that to which the only response is, why don't those idiots grow up and act respectfully towards others instead of throwing around sexist / racist / homophobic comments for absolutely no reason.
I agree and apart from that i remember in the past halo was bashed just as bad as cod. i guess people hate what is very popular and sucessfull if they dont like it, simply because it doesnt reach the hype it gets by all those other people who like it.
 

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I dislike CoD for other reasons than that it is 'rehashed'. I just find it below average, overhyped and over-expensive. I also dislike how it is often held as the epitome of gaming when it is at best a summer blockbuster.

Despite this I do like CoD, it can be good fun, I just wish I thought it was worth buying. Due to it's expense and seeming inability to decrease in price I haven't played any of them since World at War. I would play it and probably enjoy it, but I'm certainly not paying top dollar for the privelage because it is not worth it. I guess that's my problem main with CoD; it's just not worth it.
 

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MacJack said:
Wuggy said:
MacJack said:
Imo this cod hate is getting out of hand
So is your grammar. Seriously, you're not helping your case here.

Also, I see a major flaw in your argument here: Even if everything you say about the games you listed are true, how does that make CoD any better? Even if Assassin's Creed, Uncharted 3, Spiderman were also franchises that rehashes the same game (which they're fucking not), what does that have to do with CoD? The fact still stands that they're not very good.
A major flaw in my argument? How about yours? You admitted that everything i sad about those games is true yet you say they are not rehases and you say that its a "Fact" that cod is not very good.

"FACT"

How as far as i can see cod is as good of a game as any if not more judging by sales and ratings. So no its not a fact and i proved people are biased to hate cod for things that have already been seen from the dawn of time in other games.

(Pssst, that means that you are completely missing the point.)

I did not admit anything. Let me re-quote what I said.
Wuggy said:
Even if everything you say about the games you listed are true
Look closely. See the "even if" part? That means I didn't share any sort of personal opinion on those games (well, not until the "which they're fucking not" -part). That could be re-phrased to: "For the sake of argument, let's say it's true".

Popularity doesn't mean a game is good or not good. Transformers 2 was a popular movie, but it was complete crap.

And yes, it's a fact. A scientific fact. (Pssst, that was a joke.)
 

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MacJack said:
Assasin's creed brotherhood is EXACTLY like ac2 but with the brotherhood feature and you can buy more stuff...oh and cannons. The revelations trailer showed that its he same thing, same gameplay same graphics same cannons.
Yeah, but there was a pretty long story campaign that actually furthered the plot...