This Coffee Maker Has DRM to Lock Out Competitor's Refills - Update
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Hmmm.
I wonder if we could talk GOG into branching out into the coffee market.
Think they would go for that?
"We here at GOG know that coffee-piracy stems from anti-consumer practices like coffee DRM which ultimately don't work. We are vehemently against DRM in all it's forms which is why we only sell DRM free coffee and makers. Yes, we do run the risk of some people pirating our version of coffee and makers but we feel that by offering a better service, like keeping our coffees updated to the latest coffee-maker operating systems as well as offering free extras like coffee wallpapers and cup-o-joe soundtracks, we can convince many coffee pirates to turn to purchasing our products legitimately." - Anonymous GOG employee
I wonder if we could talk GOG into branching out into the coffee market.
Think they would go for that?
"We here at GOG know that coffee-piracy stems from anti-consumer practices like coffee DRM which ultimately don't work. We are vehemently against DRM in all it's forms which is why we only sell DRM free coffee and makers. Yes, we do run the risk of some people pirating our version of coffee and makers but we feel that by offering a better service, like keeping our coffees updated to the latest coffee-maker operating systems as well as offering free extras like coffee wallpapers and cup-o-joe soundtracks, we can convince many coffee pirates to turn to purchasing our products legitimately." - Anonymous GOG employee
Oh no...guess I'll just keep not drinking coffee...
Seriously though this is bullshit, I do have one of this "1.0" machines in my house and it kinda disgusts me that even coffee makers are going the route of DRM. Regardless, I can't stand the taste of coffee so I drink that poison called energy drinks instead.
Seriously though this is bullshit, I do have one of this "1.0" machines in my house and it kinda disgusts me that even coffee makers are going the route of DRM. Regardless, I can't stand the taste of coffee so I drink that poison called energy drinks instead.
Well, for one, there's more than three coffee manufacturers who make this sort of device, so it doesn't come anywhere as close as big of an impact on the relevant market.Fox12 said:
In the flip-side, I bet there will be a lot fewer people calling complainers entitled or defending the move.
Nothing, for the time being. I'm assuming they're going to eventually die out, though.Jorec said:
More importantly, if these pod machines are otherwise universal, what's to stop them from moving to another brand? This is the sort of thing that tends to only work if a sizable chunk of the market adopts its.
There's a lot of Americans online and Americans love their cars. Speaking of Americans....TheRealCJ said:
I don't own a coffee maker. My brother doesn't either (he has a kettle for tea) and my father microwaves his coffee for...Whatever reason. My mom owns two of these things--specifically the pod makers--one at home, one at her office. We're all American.Stevepinto3 said:
Strictly speaking this isn't DRM. I would go so far as to say that the concept isn't even the same. It is the equivalent of Steam suddenly only allowing you to download Valve's games and Origin only allowing you to download games published by EA. If we are comparing this to DRM, the correct thing would be to say that Keurig pods only work in Keurig machines, which is not the case here.
ANYWAY, this is both a stupid and smart business choice.
ANYWAY, this is both a stupid and smart business choice.
If you're not a morning person, brewing coffee can be quite a chore. Personally, I can't stand the stuff, but when I was a kid much entertainment was had watching my mother try to fix her morning caffeine. Part of it may be laziness, but I can understand the temptation to just have a thing where you snap a plastic cup into place if you can barely think in the morning.Scorpid said:
Funny, for some reason I was always under the impression that pod technology was something that Keurig had patented or whatnot. That not just any company could hop onto the moneytrain by producing them.
In any case, if the 2.0 ends up having one of those basket pods that lets you use any kind of grounds, there might not be much of a problem.
In any case, if the 2.0 ends up having one of those basket pods that lets you use any kind of grounds, there might not be much of a problem.
Ok i hope this is a joke. what kind of insane person decided this is a good idea. i hope they have a spectacular failure and file for bancrupcy because of this. any company that tries this does not deserve to stay on the map.
For one, Water has no "Cells" in it unless you count floating bacteria that is everywhere and hope they mutate enough instead of dieing to actually harm us.
Even then, depends on what you consider "Radiation". technically, all waves are radiation. Light is radiation. Heat is radiation. sound is radiation. electricity is radiation. so yes, microwaves is radiation too. In that case you would be wrong about their harm however. for example heat is essential to our survival, without it our bodies cannot function. too much ehat is bad, sure, but its not inherently bad. Im sure you get the point here.
Now, if you look at radiation in the laymens terms, where its usually limited to radioactive radiation, then once again you would be wrong here, since microwaves do not spread that.
Microwave principle is exciting water molecules through the correct calibration of wavelenght, that transfers energy into water molecules, making them move around. Moving around spends kinetic energy which gets transformed into heat, thus the water heats up. this is why its technically impossible to heat up 100% dry products in microwaves - it only affects water. of course there is no 100 % dryness due to humidity in the air nor are all microwaves perfect calibration.
Seriously, them aster race shtick seems to have caught up quite well.
No, your not. Then again gaming industry was always allowed to get away with it (exclusives) so i guess somone else tried this nonesense too.Sniper Team 4 said:
the same as what stops people from using windows 98. not only they refuse to sell and support it, others have too. you cna use it now, sure, but in 15 years of only 2.0 being on sale, how many of them will be supported you think?Jorec said:
I think cars are often used because it is something everyone knows (every know what is a car and how its used) and is also undisguisedly a physical good. On top of that, most people have one. so its an easy example.TheRealCJ said:
Im in this camp as well, i dont know a single person that owns a machine. Enthusiasts make coffe the old way with real beans, the rest of the folks just pour it directly into the cup.Sleekit said:
another concept i find no reason to exists. who the hell warms liquids in microwave!Keiichi Morisato said:
That depends how you look at it, but it wont be correct either way.rhizhim said:
For one, Water has no "Cells" in it unless you count floating bacteria that is everywhere and hope they mutate enough instead of dieing to actually harm us.
Even then, depends on what you consider "Radiation". technically, all waves are radiation. Light is radiation. Heat is radiation. sound is radiation. electricity is radiation. so yes, microwaves is radiation too. In that case you would be wrong about their harm however. for example heat is essential to our survival, without it our bodies cannot function. too much ehat is bad, sure, but its not inherently bad. Im sure you get the point here.
Now, if you look at radiation in the laymens terms, where its usually limited to radioactive radiation, then once again you would be wrong here, since microwaves do not spread that.
Microwave principle is exciting water molecules through the correct calibration of wavelenght, that transfers energy into water molecules, making them move around. Moving around spends kinetic energy which gets transformed into heat, thus the water heats up. this is why its technically impossible to heat up 100% dry products in microwaves - it only affects water. of course there is no 100 % dryness due to humidity in the air nor are all microwaves perfect calibration.
Those dirty Keurig peasants! They will never reach our glory!Mumorpuger said:
Seriously, them aster race shtick seems to have caught up quite well.
I think it is the time again where we hope people don't buy the product.
I've always resented the bait-and-switch bullshit of selling a proprietary machine cheap that only takes expensive proprietary inputs, mainly in printers. I wouldn't say it's anti-competitive so much as anti-consumer.
I've always resented the bait-and-switch bullshit of selling a proprietary machine cheap that only takes expensive proprietary inputs, mainly in printers. I wouldn't say it's anti-competitive so much as anti-consumer.
+1Mumorpuger said:
So.. I can have my coffee as hot as I want? I can use any kind of coffee I want? And I can even use it if the power goes out?
Yes, I think I'll keep my french press, thank you very much.
Though I do wish they were easier to clean....
This honestly sounds like something out of an Onion article. I've always found those pod coffee machines to be ridiculous (Canadian, for reference), the amount of silliness here seems to be at the level of self-parody. Can anyone owning explain to me what the benefit is from owning one of these machines?
I see what you did thar ;DMumorpuger said:
I have a traditional drip coffeemaker because I drink roughly a pot a day (yeah that can't be good for you) but my live-in tenants have a pod-style maker... it's excellent for making hot cocoa for one, because it'll serve you one cup of hot water instantly. If you're a more normal coffee drinker who has a cup in the morning, it does the job with significantly less mess, plus allows you to make all sorts of other hot beverages that would be more difficult to achieve with a drip machine.Blue_vision said:
Still, I'd use the reusable filter because K-cups are ridiculously expensive.
The primary benefits are less clean up and maintenance as well as the ability to brew whatever one feels like when they feel like it. That and it saves time measuring out water for hot cocoa and lets you make instant hot water for oatmeal, tea, etc. I use mine multiple times per day and it really is an excellent convenience device.Blue_vision said:
The downside to the Pod brewers is that so far only the coffee pods are worth it. They have tea pods and hot cocoa pods as well, but the premium over, say, a tea bag or cocoa packets is nuts. I buy up hot cocoa pods to try out on occasion, but the only advantage they have is maybe the low calorie count: an advantage rendered moot by no sugar hot cocoa from Jewel Osco or Swiss miss (the jewel brand is better, btw).
I got the original Keurig as a gift and it's pretty handy for coffee on the go but if I have time I'll always use my old coffee maker. Those little cups are just too expensive for everyday drinking, at least for me.
Tassimo already does this with their proprietary "T-Disc" system. Each T-Disc requires a bar code to operate.You can easily defeat this with the "My cup" addon that allows you to use your own coffee, instead of regular K-cups. Also, Tassimo doesn't offer this kind of system to use your own coffee, so people should have been more upset at that like back in 2004, when Tassimo was first introduced.
Besides, there are like 4 different kinds of Keurig machines out there, so if you don't like DRM coffee, just grab one of those.
Besides, there are like 4 different kinds of Keurig machines out there, so if you don't like DRM coffee, just grab one of those.