This Coffee Maker Has DRM to Lock Out Competitor's Refills - Update
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probably because messing with coffee affects more people per capita than Apple's proprietary OS does. Though, I did go with the Betamax-I mean Tassimo over the Keurig, so I'm already using a coffee machine with DRMWeaver said:
cool, i would love to see your tea pots and what nots, but alas i live in America. as a southern person i do drink a lot of iced tea, but i don't sweeten it quite as much as most americans, i like to drink it when it's hot out (in florida it gets really hot and humid and iced tea just hits the spot. during the winter time i do enjoy some hot teas, or at night before i go to bed. my tea of choice is usually a Green, White, or Oolong tea, but every now and then i do enjoy a full bodied black tea. i can understand why iced tea seems so foreign to you, as it doesn't get nearly as hot in Scotland as it does in Florida and much of the south. one of my favorite things to sweeten my iced tea is fresh fruit, namely sweet Georgia peaches, that is usually me go to sweetener and flavor for iced black teas.Gorrath said:Keiichi Morisato said:i do the same myself, but my comment was about the average american, and not the tea connoisseur. i don't mind sweeteners, as long as they are kept to a minimum, for example, i buy organic florida cane sugar that has been minimally processed and still has a bit of the molasses in it for taste, but i only put in 1 or 2 tea spoons depending on how strong the tea is, for most east asian teas and most european herbal teas 1 spoon flu is enough, but for the darker british and indian black teas 2 is enough, and i only sweeten for taste, and to take the bitter edge away.Gorrath said:Oh don't you go lumping me in with all of that! My tea is all loose leaf tea and my water is heated in a Zojirushi. What's more, adding sweeter is blasphemy as far as I'm concerned. I freely admit though, when it comes to tea, I am a ridiculous little man.Keiichi Morisato said:in america, if we want tea we nuke the water and add a tea bag of desired flavor, and add copious amounts of sugar or artificial sweetener.Sleekit said:consumerism gone mad!Stevepinto3 said:
anyway nope (Scotland).
round here household coffee comes in a jar as far most people are concerned.
a machine like that is generally seen as an unnecessary palaver.
Oh I figured you were speaking generally, I was just taking the piss out of myself for being a tea snob. Some of the herbal teas I buy have natural sweeteners, but that's usually in the form of candied fruit. As for actual tea, my fiance occasionally slips honey into the batch, but I'm not a fan. I find the bitterness of tea to be a charming compliment to my food. Most Americans I know don't drink hot tea anyway, and their idea of iced tea is two tea bags and 10 lbs of sugar. I find it cloying in the extreme. If this country weren't so vast, I'd invite you to enjoy a cup with me and my lovelier half just so I could gush on about the ridiculous sums of money I've spent on my tea pots.
I think you've mixed me up with that other bloke you were speaking with. I'm American myself, residing in the great state of Ohio. I can understand the mix-up though, as I tend toward some mannerisms that come from across the pond. I was born in Germany and traveled around Europe and GB extensively, so I've some ways about my speech that aren't, perhaps, typical.
They tend to make iced tea in Ohio much like they do in the South as far as sugar content, though the fruit we often add is lemons. I know what you mean about the peaches too, as I spent a year in Georgia for some of my military training and enjoyed fruit-sweetened iced tea far better than the stuff made from pallets of sugar.
I tend to like specific varieties in certain situations, such as Indian spiced chai (only time I put cream in my tea) with my sweet potato curry, black pearls with my breakfast foods, Japanese green or a white tea for tea time, an herbal blend for evenings and on the rare occasion I'm having tea for dinner instead of wine or beer, it's usually an oolong to accompany my Korean or Chinese cuisine.
I could wax endlessly about a lovely cup of tea, but I'd hate to be a bore.
They tend to make iced tea in Ohio much like they do in the South as far as sugar content, though the fruit we often add is lemons. I know what you mean about the peaches too, as I spent a year in Georgia for some of my military training and enjoyed fruit-sweetened iced tea far better than the stuff made from pallets of sugar.
I tend to like specific varieties in certain situations, such as Indian spiced chai (only time I put cream in my tea) with my sweet potato curry, black pearls with my breakfast foods, Japanese green or a white tea for tea time, an herbal blend for evenings and on the rare occasion I'm having tea for dinner instead of wine or beer, it's usually an oolong to accompany my Korean or Chinese cuisine.
I could wax endlessly about a lovely cup of tea, but I'd hate to be a bore.
You know what will never have any 'lock out' technology? A normal espresso machine.
I will say that pods are a definite improvement on instant, even if you'll never impress a true coffee snob with one.
I will say that pods are a definite improvement on instant, even if you'll never impress a true coffee snob with one.
As an avid coffee drinker ... I think I'll stick my drip coffee, and make a mental note to never buy a Keurig. At least "hacking" it use other brands wouldn't break the DMCA, or any other law that exists solely to justify anti-consumer nonsense. For now ... I hope ... <_<
Excuse me, that's called Freedom Tea good sir.Keiichi Morisato said:in america, if we want tea we nuke the water and add a tea bag of desired flavor, and add copious amounts of sugar or artificial sweetener.Sleekit said:consumerism gone mad!Stevepinto3 said:
anyway nope (Scotland).
round here household coffee comes in a jar as far most people are concerned.
a machine like that is generally seen as an unnecessary palaver.
Also I grind beans and use a drip machine so.....yeah
Ok.. And how slippery is this slope that people keep claiming DRM and the precedents being set by digital distribution platforms are trying to transform products into services are going to expand beyond what we conceive as digital distribution?
Its just another brick in the wall. The question is are you going to help break it down? Or are you going to stand under it gawking upward until the whole thing topples over on you?
Its just another brick in the wall. The question is are you going to help break it down? Or are you going to stand under it gawking upward until the whole thing topples over on you?
Eh, I own a tassimo for mornings and a press for weekends. Since I live alone and only drink one cup on work mornings, it can be a chore and usually wasteful to try to measure out the appropriate amount of grounds for a single cup. I would rather just let the little machine do it for me when I'm getting ready for work, and make coffee properly on the weekends when I can enjoy it.garjian said:
It's quick (very positive in the early morning) and i never brew more than i need (I did just that when using an old school machine, lots of wasted coffee) and best of all: It always taste the same! I alwayd had a hard time brewing consitently good coffe on my old machine, much easier now and plenty of tastes to choose from. It's a bit lazy of me, but i really like these pod based things.Scorpid said:
Oh, that's nothing. Years ago, someone made the comparison (in relation to computer software generally) of a car that was only able to drive down certain specific roads...Sniper Team 4 said:
Being stuck with one kind of petrol is a minor inconvenience compared to having a car that can only be driven on 'approved' roads... XD
Coffee from a can? From a vending machine?
That's.... that's just plain wrong!
Every morning I roll up my sleeve and tap a vein for some proper, 45 bar boiling-water-washed single source ground bliss. I'll drink pod coffee if there's nothing else around and I have drunk instant, although that makes me feel dirty and ashamed.
But on topic, if you have to use a companys pods, they'd better be the best damn things on the shelf, and good value to boot. It's not like this company has such a dominance they can afford to lock out competitor products.
Aaand now I want coffee.
Not that I'm an addict or anything...
/shame...
That's.... that's just plain wrong!
Every morning I roll up my sleeve and tap a vein for some proper, 45 bar boiling-water-washed single source ground bliss. I'll drink pod coffee if there's nothing else around and I have drunk instant, although that makes me feel dirty and ashamed.
But on topic, if you have to use a companys pods, they'd better be the best damn things on the shelf, and good value to boot. It's not like this company has such a dominance they can afford to lock out competitor products.
Aaand now I want coffee.
Not that I'm an addict or anything...
/shame...
Can I just ask a question what is wrong with coffee pots that use ground coffee, water and filters??? Sure I can see the convenience here but come the hell on it's coffee for crying out loud.
So does this make my french press the Linux of the coffee world? I actually tried a cup from one of those Keurig machines and it was alright, but my $10 press is still better.
Well, sometimes coffee machines break, particularly if you use them often. If you're a Keurig loyalist, and they stop selling the original, then you might be forced to upgrade.Jorec said:
Ugh, speak for yourself!Keiichi Morisato said:
I buy my tea from Teavana and use a proper kettle, and I'm American. I even have one of those Teavana tea-presses (kinda like a French Press, but with tea).
As for sweetener, it depends on the tea, but I often use the natural sugar crystals they sell at Teavana.
I really like Teavana, okay?
The problem is there's a third camp - the Espresso and Latte crowd. **raises hand** Oh, and also the Iced Coffee crowd. **raises hand again**Mumorpuger said:
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Wow, this post really makes me look like a caffeine fiend. Which I am, so... yeah, that's appropriate I guess.