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flim.geek.chic said:
superbatranger said:
Why should it matter if you're a girl who plays games? You don't have to label yourself as a girl gamer. If you enjoy video games as much as us guys do, then you're a gamer. Simple. There's no need to create this label. Let's just get rid of it, so we can all just be gamers.
THANKYOU! I've been trying to tell "GRRRRRL" Gamers that for years! Lets Just Be Gamers.
One day we shall unite under a single name.
 

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There is a lot of anti-gaming sentiment for both genders, though more so for girls. Why? Stereotypes. But I can tell you that guys who play games love it when a girl enjoys games as well.

Also, don't take everything this "friend" says to heart. You have no reason to be ashamed, whereas she's getting worked up over something extremely petty which isn't even her business.
 

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Xiphos98 said:
I don't know if that makes any sense but to a male they don't understand why we would enjoy it, but there only meant to enjoy it, but us females.
Umm, what? Seriously, you've met guys who think like that? I know I don't understand women, but when I hear about the kind of stupid shit other men sometimes say or think, I suspect I don't understand my own gender either. I've actually tried to get girls I know into gaming and play co-op shooters with one of them. I don't get why somebody would think enjoyment of games would depend on gender.
 

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Why does society see it okay for guys to be into games? I think it's because society viewed gaming to be a guy thing in the past, so they see it as acceptable for guys.

Why do some girls avoid girls that play video games? It's could possibly be due to the gamer stereotype of social misfits that live in their parent's basement, hiding away from others. Some people think associating with certain types of people will cause them to be viewed as one of those type of people. I actually find that guys have a bigger problem with me gaming than other girls. Mainly it's those "get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich" type guys.

There isn't any real good reason why we should be ashamed or hide the fact that we play games. I personally don't like the term girl gamer though; that implies you become a different type of gamer based on your gender. I like the games like Left 4 Dead the same amount that I like casual games like Super Scribblenauts. My gender doesn't define my gaming choices so my gamer status shouldn't be defined by my gender.
 

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Girl gamer here! I have always been into games, since I first picked up an NES controller at age 8 and played Super Marios Bros. I spent most of my childhood in Canada, where all my friends, male and female equally, were avid gamers. In Canada, I never ever had anyone comment on the fact that I liked to play video games. Ever since I moved to the UK at 16 and the topic comes up that I'm a gamer, the reaction I usually get from people is along the lines of "You like games, but are a girl! This does not compute! You are strange!". The look on the member of staff the other day in Computer Exchange when I went up and asked "Do you have a wireless network adaptor for an XBox 360?" was classic. My male friends at work like it now though, we all play on Xbox live together, and discuss games and gaming.

In general, I find that there is a lot more prevalent gender sterotyping and inequality in the UK compared to Canada, but that is just my experience.. My mum is a culprit sometimes too, she knows that me and my sister are highly computer and technology literate, yet she will still direct any computer/technology-related question to any male in the room.
 

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Eico said:
"[A]s homosexuality is a defect in genetics"
I'm not clear on whether you mean this, or whether you're using this particular (and erroneous) social engineering concept as an example of a particular social paradigm?

Please elucidate.
 

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Eico said:
I'm not sure how my initial post confuses you.
I am yet to come across empirical biological and neurological evidence to suggest this, much less make it a fact. I am yet to come across any sociological data that makes this an absolute fact.



I meant exactly what it says - homosexuality is a defect; an error, a deformation of brain functioning, a flaw.
Really? If you're so sure, then cite me some peer reviewed and academic evidence to back up this claim, as I find it absurd. And do not bring up politically charged junk science, either.

We've known this for... well, for just about ever.
Ah, yes. The same argument used to justify Racism, of which I'm all too familiar with being an Aboriginal Australian. Oh, and also the same rationale used to justify discrimination against women.

Humans, like all animals, have one purpose in life: find a mate (or many) and spread their genes.
The question pertaining to the 'meaning of life' is a philosophical question, as we as a species have evolved beyond mere biological reproduction. This arguably (strongly so) has very little to do with homosexuality, as generally a homosexual person is still fully capable of reproduction.

It's not unlike paedophilia, only paedphiles are sickening beyond belief and cause irreparable harm to innocent people.
Pedophilia is very often associated with psychopathic tendencies, whereas homosexuality isn't. You'll need to establish a clear link between the two, in lieu of making amorphous claims of 'genetic defect'.

But both are an involuntary and undeniable mental defect that causes attraction to individuals that, ideally, people are not supposed to find attractive (the same sex and children respectively.
Your 'ideally' [sic] smacks of 'political' and 'pseudo-scientific' junk.

Give me real and comprehensive evidence -- as stated above -- that I can take back to academics to clarify.

Only then will I take you seriously.
 

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letterbomber223 said:
Eico said:
letterbomber223 said:
One cannot have "gay tendencies" and be heterosexual. The two are mutually exclusive by definition.

I missed the point? I'll take it then you were being sarcastic? I won't stoop to sarcasm. Don't bother.
Lol sexuality isn't binary. End of.
Yeah you did, yes that was when; don't worry it's okay if you don't understand, you don't have to get defensive. :)
(This 'gays are broken' bit is highly off-topic though so if you want to continue please inbox me your bigotism instead. I'm already in trouble with the mods, would hate to annoy them more.)
yes, this IS off topic. But that doesn't change the fact that it's kinda interesting to read. Though it also reminds me of when I get into arguments with people on youtube over the same thing X3.

I hate the 'gays are broken' argument. But yes, let's keep things on-topic shall we :3
 

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Don?t let people make you feel ashamed. There?s not an activity on this Earth that only males of females do. There are activities where a gender is predominant but even then. You just ended up as one of the people who are doing an activity where the other gender is predominant. There?s nothing inherent in it to suggest you shouldn?t be doing it.

Besides I think the ratio between the gender playing games is beginning to even out somewhat. I think the split now is more to do with which gender typically plays which genres. With the advent of more ?casual? games along with facebook and the Wii everyone and there grandma is starting to pick it up in some form.
 

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Uh...it's a crime to love your hobby now? I won't hide my love of games from anyone. I happily express how I feel about them even if I get jeered at a little for going into GameStation and walking out with a few games. Just do what you want to do and as the meme says: "Haters gon' hate."
 

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you mention other girls reactions to your love of games in the OP
but round these parts one of the sexiest things a woman of my generation can do is whip out an xbox controller and confess her love of gaming
but thats from a male perspective
 

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Just game, screw what everyone else thinks.

If I want to kick ass in Uncharted with a pink controller I will.

It's a form of entertainment, just do what you want.
 

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Eico said:
letterbomber223 said:
Eico said:
letterbomber223 said:
One cannot have "gay tendencies" and be heterosexual. The two are mutually exclusive by definition.

I missed the point? I'll take it then you were being sarcastic? I won't stoop to sarcasm. Don't bother.
Lol sexuality isn't binary. End of.
Yeah you did, yes that was when; don't worry it's okay if you don't understand, you don't have to get defensive. :)
(This 'gays are broken' bit is highly off-topic though so if you want to continue please inbox me your bigotism instead. I'm already in trouble with the mods, would hate to annoy them more.)
Firstly, sexuality is binary. Learn what heterosexual means - may I recommend a dictionary.

Secondly, I'm not getting defensive. I simply refuse to stoop down to your level of wit.

Thirdly, me, a bigot? Oh dear. If you'd bothered to read my posts and hadn't butted into a conversation, you would have noticed I'm gay.

Tsk, tsk ,tsk.
Just because you are gay doesn't make it right to insult us. Though I'm sure you'll have a clever come rebuttal for this too.
 

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Whoa, how did this go from girl gamers to the gays? I can't even comprehend this. Haha. I think homosexuals have control over what they do. And there is no evidence supporting genetic based sexuality. Being gay is merely a psychological issue. Think about it. Unlike animals or straight humans, homosexuals can't reproduce. This makes passing the gay gene on impossible.
 

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Eico said:
-- Questions pertaining to the meaning of life --
Fine, have your point of view. I take issue with the way you pass it off as an absolute, and unequivocal fact. If you're going to indulge in philosophical questions on profound social issues in the future: articulate yourself and your argument better. To me, you came across as extraordinarily ignorant, and I don't mean to be offensive in stating so.

The meaning of life is a philosophical question. End of story.

Secondly, you need to talk to academics and start surfing accredited and peer-reviewed journals, because homosexuality most certainly is NOT considered a 'genetic defect'. You're behind the times.
 

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Eico said:
Still Life said:
Eico said:
-- Questions pertaining to the meaning of life --
Fine, have your point of view. I take issue with the way you pass it off as an absolute, and unequivocal fact. If you're going to indulge in philosophical questions on profound social issues in the future: articulate yourself and your argument better. To me, you came across as extraordinarily ignorant, and I don't mean to be offensive in stating so.

The meaning of life is a philosophical question. End of story.

Secondly, you need to talk to academics and start surfing accredited and peer-reviewed journals, because homosexuality most certainly is NOT considered a 'genetic defect'. You're behind the times.
I really don't care what people consider it. I'm simply stating the facts as I see them; to me homosexuality is a defect.

Sort of like how beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
If you're going to state something as fact then deal with the currency of knowledge and back it up with evidence. You have utterly failed in this.

Otherwise, your opinion is not authoritative and invalid. Surely, if you've received any sort of tertiary education: you'd know this.
 

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I'm a dude so I beg your pardon, but this reminded me of something my brother's girlfriend asked once. She was watching us play a game and realized that we were going through a tutorial. She asked if this was normal and when we told her yes she was surprised and said she didn't realize that videogames were so approachable. Since than she has played some games briefly, but she doesn't really have the time to get into videogames what with college and all.

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So i'm guessing this contributes to the void as it were. Many girls probably don't realize how easy they are to get into.
 

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Eico said:
What part of beauty is in the eye of the beholder do you not understand?
What part of validating an opinion do you not understand?

Because I find it laden with the same willful ignorance that perpetuates all discrimination.

Again: You have utterly failed to back up your claim. Therefore: opinion is invalid.
 

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Eico said:
Just like I don't care what you think is beautiful.
This is a tangent.

This is irrelevant.

You have logic holes in your argument that I can drive a truck through.

If you're going to make claims like the aforementioned then you need to provide Academic evidence. I will not simply accept your inadequate opinion as fact until you prove it, as I have gay friends who will find your opinion deeply offensive and I have college friends who do studies in said sciences who disagree.

It's called accountability: something you lack.