This perticular hair style just makes me so...disgusted.

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Aerosteam said:
Somehow I knew what hairstyle was going to be shown before I clicked on this thread. I also hate that hairstyle.
You and me both. I used to work for Oakley...so yeah I saw this hairstyle on literally every douche-bag customer on a daily basis.

100% of them came in and tried on women's aviators...and bought them.
 

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RanD00M said:
People out of touch with fashion: The thread.

TakerFoxx said:
It's...a hairstyle. What's the big deal?
And then TakerFoxx nails it.
Fashion is a waste. Better to make your own fashion style. Plus no one sets trends by following them.

And fashion is all about criticizing people's looks. Just because they aren't walking down the runway, its not ok?
 

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Saelune said:
RanD00M said:
People out of touch with fashion: The thread.

TakerFoxx said:
It's...a hairstyle. What's the big deal?
And then TakerFoxx nails it.
Fashion is a waste. Better to make your own fashion style. Plus no one sets trends by following them.

And fashion is all about criticizing people's looks. Just because they aren't walking down the runway, its not ok?
Don't forget the health problems those who wear this stupid shut has to go through. Or their entitled attitude towards everyone.
 

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Lol blacks dont have the monopoly on dreads. indians were dreadlocking thousands of years before the blacks had ever thought of them so shut the fuck up with this racist bullshit. Whites can get natural dreadlocks just as easy as blacks, its all hair for fuks sake, dont need a head nappy! :)
 

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Saelune said:
Fashion is a waste. Better to make your own fashion style.
Just don't do anything too interesting, or people on this thread will literally hate you for some reason.
 

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evilthecat said:
Saelune said:
Fashion is a waste. Better to make your own fashion style.
Just don't do anything too interesting, or people on this thread will literally hate you for some reason.
As one of the people critical of the hair style...who cares? I mean, who cares that people care? If they genuinely like it, and aren't just a fashion sheep, then they wont care if I hate it. Just as my own personal style doesn't appeal to everyone, and I don't care, as long as I like it.

I personally like a lot of punk and emo styles. But I know a lot of people who would shit on those hairstyles and clothing styles, and...so? I'm not going to just get mad at them for not liking it.

I think the people critical of the critical here, are a bit hyperbolic. That said, fashion says something. People with certain styles tend to have certain interests. Not always guaranteed, but I bet the people with the hairstyle in the OP wouldn't really enjoy my company, or me theirs. But if I met someone who I got along with, and had that awful hair style, it wouldn't really matter.
 

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Saelune said:
As one of the people critical of the hair style...who cares? I mean, who cares that people care? If they genuinely like it, and aren't just a fashion sheep, then they wont care if I hate it. Just as my own personal style doesn't appeal to everyone, and I don't care, as long as I like it.
I don't know.. I care when people actively dislike me as a person over something as trivial as my hair or clothes. True, I care mostly in the sense that I don't want to have to waste my life on people who are that fucking insecure, which I suspect is probably part of why I've always gravitated towards dressing in ways which tend to sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. But I can still dislike and criticise the annoying tenancy to be an overly judgemental ****.

I mean, the problem with "making your own fashion style" is that it's really hard to do. If you're buying clothes from a shop, at least a shop which is easily accessible, you're not making your own fashion style.

I'd go so far as to sat that people who claim to be making their own fashion style pretty much never are, they're either people who claim not to care about fashion (while still inexplicably dressing the same way as their friends and people they admire) or they think that ironically wearing a T-shirt referencing a kid's show from the 90s somehow makes them super unique because surely they're the only person who has thought to do that (they aren't).

Saelune said:
I think the people critical of the critical here, are a bit hyperbolic. That said, fashion says something. People with certain styles tend to have certain interests. Not always guaranteed, but I bet the people with the hairstyle in the OP wouldn't really enjoy my company, or me theirs. But if I met someone who I got along with, and had that awful hair style, it wouldn't really matter.
I think the fact that you assume that is probably more indicative that you wouldn't get on with them than their hair will ever be.

I mean, I've been through the goth scene. I went through all the bullshit of thinking that clothing choice or hair expressed something deep about you and that only people who dressed like you could possibly understand you or share interests with you, and you know what.. it's kinda horseshit. Clothes are clothes. Hair is hair. They say nothing about you as a person, only your actions and expressed opinions do that. If you treat people like shit over clothes and hair, then you're a shitty person no matter what you're wearing.
 

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evilthecat said:
Saelune said:
As one of the people critical of the hair style...who cares? I mean, who cares that people care? If they genuinely like it, and aren't just a fashion sheep, then they wont care if I hate it. Just as my own personal style doesn't appeal to everyone, and I don't care, as long as I like it.
I don't know.. I care when people actively dislike me as a person over something as trivial as my hair or clothes. True, I care mostly in the sense that I don't want to have to waste my life on people who are that fucking insecure, which I suspect is probably part of why I've always gravitated towards dressing in ways which tend to sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. But I can still dislike and criticise the annoying tenancy to be an overly judgemental ****.

I mean, the problem with "making your own fashion style" is that it's really hard to do. If you're buying clothes from a shop, at least a shop which is easily accessible, you're not making your own fashion style.

I'd go so far as to sat that people who claim to be making their own fashion style pretty much never are, they're either people who claim not to care about fashion (while still inexplicably dressing the same way as their friends and people they admire) or they think that ironically wearing a T-shirt referencing a kid's show from the 90s somehow makes them super unique because surely they're the only person who has thought to do that (they aren't).

Saelune said:
I think the people critical of the critical here, are a bit hyperbolic. That said, fashion says something. People with certain styles tend to have certain interests. Not always guaranteed, but I bet the people with the hairstyle in the OP wouldn't really enjoy my company, or me theirs. But if I met someone who I got along with, and had that awful hair style, it wouldn't really matter.
I think the fact that you assume that is probably more indicative that you wouldn't get on with them than their hair will ever be.

I mean, I've been through the goth scene. I went through all the bullshit of thinking that clothing choice or hair expressed something deep about you and that only people who dressed like you could possibly understand you or share interests with you, and you know what.. it's kinda horseshit. Clothes are clothes. Hair is hair. They say nothing about you as a person, only your actions and expressed opinions do that. If you treat people like shit over clothes and hair, then you're a shitty person no matter what you're wearing.
Well, for one, I think you think people literally hate people for their style, when really it is greatly disliked. When I actively hate someone, like, legitimately hate, it means I actively hope for bad things to happen to them. Anyone who would actively hope for bad things to happen to people because of their hairstyle are probably shitty people, but I don't think most of the people here are that.

Second, alternative styled people usually are more open-minded than those who either just follow trends, or actively dress "normal".

I assume a lot of things. I am super judgmental. But so is everyone. "I don't judge" is utter horse shit. The thing is, I adjust my judgements as more is learned. Their appearance is my starting point, along with the context of meeting them. If you look like Justin Beiber, I will presume you like him or his style, and actively dislike you. Prove me wrong though, and I will adjust my views.
 

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Second, alternative styled people usually are more open-minded than those who either just follow trends, or actively dress "normal".
They really aren't, they're much much worse. I know, I was in the alternative scene in the 1990s and 2000s. People were using 'sheeple' unironically back then.
Less likely to be homophobic in my experience, and that's kind of important to me.
 

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Doggular said:
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Less likely to be homophobic in my experience, and that's kind of important to me.
That's fair enough but irrelevant; but this isn't about sexuality, this is about haircuts and judging people based on their appearance.
And that's why I didn't open with that. I started with that I generally find I prefer people with certain styles over others. Shouldn't be surprised that there were reasons why that is.
 

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Doggular said:
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And that's why I didn't open with that. I started with that I generally find I prefer people with certain styles over others. Shouldn't be surprised that there were reasons why that is.
I'm not disagreeing with the idea of personal preference, though I think some of the personal preferences expressed in this thread go back unpleasantly to something like nerd rage against jocks or cool kids (i.e., this guy has hair that makes him super douchey, and yet he's more popular/ripped/consistently getting shagged than me; one of these days everyone will realise they were wrong all along and I was the best person!).

I don't think it's fair to suggest that you can judge whether a person will be homophobic based on their haircut. You could maybe believe/hope a person won't be homophobic based on their subcultural group (which, fair enough, you might infer from their hairstyle), but I think it's a push to suggest members outside of that group (that is, those not indentified by that hairstyle) will, by default, be homophobic (but accept that I have nothing to lose on that judgement because I'm totally into fannies (that's vaginas to you Americans, not butts)).

(And I'd agree that the alternative community is generally more welcoming of difference; what they're not always welcoming of is conformance or the ordinary, even though many things are ordinary/commonplace simply because they are more popular.)
Its more identifying who likely wont be rather than will be, but I find the mainstream preppy types to be well, small-minded. Certainly a man with a haircut other men may not find manly is likely to be less stringy about gay guys. And well, crew/buzz cuts...genuinely make me feel uncomfortable around them. But I always stay open to being wrong about a person.

I'm someone who overly analyses people, for reasons, and well, I find people with certain styles tend to be more like this than that. I'm no scientist, so I cant put it in a study, but this isn't something I just passingly thought.
 

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Saelune said:
Well, for one, I think you think people literally hate people for their style, when really it is greatly disliked. When I actively hate someone, like, legitimately hate, it means I actively hope for bad things to happen to them. Anyone who would actively hope for bad things to happen to people because of their hairstyle are probably shitty people, but I don't think most of the people here are that.
I don't know. Of all the things I've been harassed over in my life, wearing "alternative" fashion is the only thing that seemed to make people so enraged as to attempt to seriously injure me over it. Don't underestimate the human capacity for meaningless and petty hatred.

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Second, alternative styled people usually are more open-minded than those who either just follow trends, or actively dress "normal".
Yes, and no.

Alternative styled people are less likely to hit you with the accusation of simply being "weird" or "gross," but in other ways they can be hyper-judgemental, because they tend to exhibit this conceit that the clothes you wear are really significant to who you are as a person and expect you to get the cultural reference points they do. For example, I grew up in a very small village so when I moved away I was quite naive about a lot of visual culture. I wore stuff I personally liked. Unfortunately, what I liked at the time ended up looking kind of emo. It took about a year of being absolutely shunned at any kind of alternative events before I finally cottoned on to what was happening.

The past few years it's kind of been the same thing again because of the dark wave revival and nu-goth/witch house. I wouldn't say I've lost friends over it, but there are people I have much less time for.

Also, there is a lot of homophobia/transphobia in the alternative scene, in fact it's kind of worse in some ways because people will absolutely insist they can't be homophobic or transphobic because they're alt and that means they're really accepting and much more enlightened (again, assuming clothes signify the type of person they are, rather than you know.. actually being that type of person). Assuming that just because a guy has long hair or wears makeup they're not going to be an arsehole might seem an okay assumption, but it doesn't actually work.
 

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evilthecat said:
Yes, and no.

Alternative styled people are less likely to hit you with the accusation of simply being "weird" or "gross," but in other ways they can be hyper-judgemental, because they tend to exhibit this conceit that the clothes you wear are really significant to who you are as a person and expect you to get the cultural reference points they do. For example, I grew up in a very small village so when I moved away I was quite naive about a lot of visual culture. I wore stuff I personally liked. Unfortunately, what I liked at the time ended up looking kind of emo. It took about a year of being absolutely shunned at any kind of alternative events before I finally cottoned on to what was happening.
I dunno, I've been shunned for trying to fit in with that scene growing up.

And don't forget they will also go over your music collection with a fine toothed comb, making sure you're listening to what they want you to listen to and if you don't you can kiss your friendship with them goodbye.