This really chives my spuds, and I want your opinion

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retyopy

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Yes, I undersand that "chives my spuds" is not an actaul term, but if I keep saying it, it'll become in like Bob.

So a few weeks back, I was at the library, reading a book. I don't remember what it was, although I know it was generic and boring. And there was a kid, 11 or 12, trying to check out Storm of Swords. Which is book 3 in the Song of Fire and Ice if you didn't know. In which case I feel sorry for you. Anyway, checkout human being of some gender or other was giving him a really hard time about it. Which is understandable, because of all the sex and violence and such. But heres what chives my spuds: I was around his age when I read the first book. I liked it, got it, read the other books, diligently awaited the next books. WONDER! So you can see why it would get me a bit irritated. But I can also see where she's coming from. So... OPINIONS! What do YOU think? BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO MATTERS!

EDIT: A few people seem to think that it was library policy. It wasn't.
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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Not to be rude, but your post seems a bit out of focus- I got mental whiplash trying to follow along.

Right, so I see where you're coming from: people are always complaining that kids don't read enough, and now this kid is (on his own volition) trying to get into a book series that he enjoys and it's suddenly a big deal.

They don't just want kids to read, they want them to read boring stuff!

Anyway, I get that the maturity level might not be right, but it he read, and enjoyed, the first two books, I'm not sure how much damage can already be done. Plus, and far be it for me to raise someone else's kid, but I think keeping sex and violence away from kids aggressively is ultimately futile because they'll see it somewhere else.

Plus, seriously, a book? Unless it's outright porn, how graphic can it be? I remember my parents not letting me read a book because of its sexual content when I was thirteen so I read it just to spite them, and when I was done I thought "That's it? I've seen worse searching for 'tomatoes' on google." It was a decent enough book, but I felt like the kids from South Park reading "Cather in the Rye" (another great example of pointless censorship).
 

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Prof. Monkeypox said:
Not to be rude, but your post seems a bit out of focus- I got mental whiplash trying to follow along.

Right, so I see where you're coming from: people are always complaining that kids don't read enough, and now this kid is (on his own volition) trying to get into a book series that he enjoys and it's suddenly a big deal.

They don't just want kids to read, they want them to read boring stuff!

Anyway, I get that the maturity level might not be right, but it he read, and enjoyed, the first two books, I'm not sure how much damage can already be done. Plus, and far be it for me to raise someone else's kid, but I think keeping sex and violence away from kids aggressively is ultimately futile because they'll see it somewhere else.

Plus, seriously, a book? Unless it's outright porn, how graphic can it be? I remember my parents not letting me read a book because of its sexual content when I was thirteen so I read it just to spite them, and when I was done I thought "That's it? I've seen worse searching for 'tomatoes' on google." It was a decent enough book, but I felt like the kids from South Park reading "Cather in the Rye" (another great example of pointless censorship).
This was essentially what my thinking was.
 

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I can see where the Checkout Human is coming from but unless he/she actively refused to let the kid check the book out I don't really see why this "chives your spuds" as you put it.

I would ask thoug, how is "Chives my spuds" supposed to translate into something bad? Chives on potatoes is awesome.
 

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I remember reading Enders Game back in 6th grade.....

Yeah, I was WAY to young for that.

I've not read the book series in question, so I'm not really qualified to say anything in the matter.
 

retyopy

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kickyourass said:
I can see where the Checkout Human is coming from but unless he/she actively refused to let the kid check the book out I don't really see why this "chives your spuds" as you put it.

I would ask thoug, how is "Chives my spuds" supposed to translate into something bad? Chives on potatoes is awesome.
She was literaly not letting him check it out. as in, she would not swipe it. In the end, he left, but he came back an hour later and there was a new lady who let him check it out.
 

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I don't know anyone who has ever worked for Chapters/Indigo/Borders, but I'm pretty sure they sell almost anything to almost anyone. As Libraries are bought and payed for by taxpayers, they are government regulated on some level. That government can impose rules on children checking out "mature" content, because one dumb, childless asshole thought he knew what was best. Most people who impose restriction/bans on what a "child" can or cannot do, are themselves childless. Childhood is more a state of mind than a period of years, anyways. Perhaps letting children who want to read (generally intellectual) do so is the best idea.
 

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retyopy said:
Yes, I undersand that "chives my spuds" is not an actaul term, but if I keep saying it,
If only it was. A man can dream though, a man can dream.

Also Storm of Swords is bare good, people should read it. :p
You were just made for this thread, weren't you? And practically any Game of Thrones thread.
 

Rawker

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I am willing to pay actual human dollars for you to never use the phrase "Chives my spuds"

I have placed $5 in my cd drive and I have closed it. You should receive it shortly. Make the right choice here. I'm making you a wonderful offer here, don't make this get violent.

On topic, I can't really understand what you're saying, its kinda confusing.
 

Robert Ewing

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I read the Karma Sutra in Primary School once.

There was a massive scandal that somebody had actually smuggled it into the shelves.

Been practicing every day since.
 

retyopy

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Rawker said:
I am willing to pay actual human dollars for you to never use the phrase "Chives my spuds"

I have placed $5 in my cd drive and I have closed it. You should receive it shortly. Make the right choice here. I'm making you a wonderful offer here, don't make this get violent.

On topic, I can't really understand what you're saying, its kinda confusing.
Why do people always say that? It really chives my spuds.

And to simplify it, should kids who seek out intelligent things with mature content be able to read/watch it if they actively seek it out.
 

retyopy

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Robert Ewing said:
I read the Karma Sutra in Primary School once.

There was a massive scandal that somebody had actually smuggled it into the shelves.

Been practicing every day since.
I... I don't know whether to congratulate you or feel indifferent.
 

IndomitableSam

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<- Librarian. They should not restrict what a child wants to read, at all. That said, when you sign a library card, you agree to library policy, whatever it may be. I read Wheel of Time at that age, but I'm sure I didn't understand everything. People were telling me to read Thrones 15 years ago, but I didn't until a few years ago and am glad. As an adult, I understood and loved it much more than I would have at 12.

I let my students read whatever they want, but I did get into trouble letting 11 year olds read Go Ask Alice. Even if I think it's the right age to read it... Kids identify most with protagonists 1-3 years older than them. So the kid would enjoy the Stark kids, but be lost in the politics.
 

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retyopy said:
Rawker said:
I am willing to pay actual human dollars for you to never use the phrase "Chives my spuds"

I have placed $5 in my cd drive and I have closed it. You should receive it shortly. Make the right choice here. I'm making you a wonderful offer here, don't make this get violent.

On topic, I can't really understand what you're saying, its kinda confusing.
Why do people always say that? It really chives my spuds.

And to simplify it, should kids who seek out intelligent things with mature content be able to read/watch it if they actively seek it out.
We could have done this so nicely. WE COULD HAVE BEEN FRIENDS, YOU AND I, BUT YOU RUINED IT DIDN'T YOU? YOU HAD TO RUIN IT WITH YOUR PRETEND PHRASES.

back on topic, yeah, I read books with fairly adult themes and I feel like it served as a precursor to a more mature and emotionally prepared state of adolescence.
 

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I always try my hardest to make sure my 5 year old nephew never sees me playing or watching something violent, by which I mean anything that has a fair amount of blood. But then I feel like a hypocrite, because when I was his age I was playing Mortal Kombat 2 and saw plenty of fatalities. So while I can see where the checkout lady was coming from, I really hope she wasn't making a big scene or refusing to let him check the book out.
 

retyopy

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IndomitableSam said:
<- Librarian. They should not restrict what a child wants to read, at all. That said, when you sign a library card, you agree to library policy, whatever it may be. I read Wheel of Time at that age, but I'm sure I didn't understand everything. People were telling me to read Thrones 15 years ago, but I didn't until a few years ago and am glad. As an adult, I understood and loved it much more than I would have at 12.

I let my students read whatever they want, but I did get into trouble letting 11 year olds read Go Ask Alice. Even if I think it's the right age to read it... Kids identify most with protagonists 1-3 years older than them. So the kid would enjoy the Stark kids, but be lost in the politics.
Ya think? Because speaking as someone who remembers his 11's quite well, (Seeing as they were AWESOME(for the most part)) I honestly didn't find it all that confusing. At all. And I wasn't nor am I all that smart! And getting in trouble for letting that kid read Go Ask Alice ws ridiculious.

And it wasn't library policy, it was just the librarian being pigheaded.