Turns black people from terrifying, to overwhelmingly attractive.GistoftheFist said:This thread needs a heaping helping of:
Surely the video is in the former?Devoneaux said:There's a difference between mocking racists and the entire concept, and making light of the real problem that racism presents. This video is definitely in the latter camp. Still funny though.Daystar Clarion said:Racism is still a problem today, much to my disappointed.
But this thread isn't about how much racism sucks. Oh no, this is thread about how potentially hilarious the subject of racism can be.
That is to say, how funny it is to mock racism, because as we all know, the more you laugh at something, the less power it has.
So please, share your tales of racism based hilarity, whether it's because they're facepalmingly (totally a word) bad, or because they're genuinely funny.
And please, let's keep this classy![]()
Splitting people into races isn't "races", it's merely categorization of people for convenience. People from Africa are "Africans", not racist, simply a denomination.ratzofftoya said:Wow, you have a qualification, that's pretty neat. "Race" is a concept that does not apply to whites. It is not biological. It is the arbitrary grouping of biological characteristics intended to describe a group of people in order to justify their subjugation. White people don't have a "race" other than one they have defined FOR THEMSELVES. Samuel L Jackson's character (ha ha) had individual power, but not the power of society and a history of 400 years of slavery lifting him up over his white neighbor.Binnsyboy said:Actually, as part of my college education, I was required to attain a qualification called "Equality and Diversity", a large part of which was racism in society. Racism being the prejudiced treatment or generalizing characteristics of someone based on their race. While slave trading by white society was one of the original and worst offenders, that doesn't exclude white people from being on the receiving end of racism. Racism isn't exclusively prejudice backed by power. That's subjugation, with racial motives. That in itself is not exclusive to white people either. For an example, watch that film where Samuel L Jackson plays a cop living next door to the protagonist. That's racial subjugation through use of power in which the subjugator is a black man.
And race is biological. Ergo a child's race depends on the race(s) of his parents. That isn't any reason to treat said person any differently, but that does not mean the concept of race doesn't exist.
Here's a simple example: it took black people 600 years and 18 MAJOR Supreme Court decisions until institutionalized racism was dismantled in the U.S. It took one white man (Alan Bakke) 2 years and one Supreme Court case to end racial quotas at public universities. If you call both obstacles these people faced "racism," meaning prejudice + power, you are quite obviously mistaken.
And as a further note, the relative historical levels of racism shouldn't matter. Racism against any group of people is just as bad as racism against any other group of people, whether they're Asian, Indian, Arabic, Eastern-European, Western-European, Slavic, African, Afrikaaner, South American, Central American, North American, Jewish, Germanic, or any of a dozen other races and sub-races.SextusMaximus said:Splitting people into races isn't "races", it's merely categorization of people for convenience. People from Africa are "Africans", not racist, simply a denomination.ratzofftoya said:Wow, you have a qualification, that's pretty neat. "Race" is a concept that does not apply to whites. It is not biological. It is the arbitrary grouping of biological characteristics intended to describe a group of people in order to justify their subjugation. White people don't have a "race" other than one they have defined FOR THEMSELVES. Samuel L Jackson's character (ha ha) had individual power, but not the power of society and a history of 400 years of slavery lifting him up over his white neighbor.Binnsyboy said:Actually, as part of my college education, I was required to attain a qualification called "Equality and Diversity", a large part of which was racism in society. Racism being the prejudiced treatment or generalizing characteristics of someone based on their race. While slave trading by white society was one of the original and worst offenders, that doesn't exclude white people from being on the receiving end of racism. Racism isn't exclusively prejudice backed by power. That's subjugation, with racial motives. That in itself is not exclusive to white people either. For an example, watch that film where Samuel L Jackson plays a cop living next door to the protagonist. That's racial subjugation through use of power in which the subjugator is a black man.
And race is biological. Ergo a child's race depends on the race(s) of his parents. That isn't any reason to treat said person any differently, but that does not mean the concept of race doesn't exist.
Here's a simple example: it took black people 600 years and 18 MAJOR Supreme Court decisions until institutionalized racism was dismantled in the U.S. It took one white man (Alan Bakke) 2 years and one Supreme Court case to end racial quotas at public universities. If you call both obstacles these people faced "racism," meaning prejudice + power, you are quite obviously mistaken.
You clearly have put a lot of thought into this and it is clear you mean well. But at the same time I think you really do miss the proper definition of racism. Especially the addition of the power element does not improve your argument. In no official definition of racism does this element come back. It is in the end a very simple basic definition. The following definition is from the Oxford Dictionary:ratzofftoya said:I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power. On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist. African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level. Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy. Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination. While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.Chairman Miaow said:Please, go away, you are just ruining this thread for everybody. If you don't like the discussion, don't join in. We think we are not being racist. You think we are. It is obvious nobody is changing their minds, so don't waste your time and derail the thread while you are at it. If anything I have said now or previously has caused harm, I will gladly apologise for it, and the last thing I want, is to cause harm. If you want to have a discussion about the definitions of race and racism, go start your own thread, although it will no doubt descend into flame wars in seconds.ratzofftoya said:Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.Helmholtz Watson said:Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.ratzofftoya said:I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
PoC (people of color) can?t be racist, because they don?t have any reinforcement from that institutionalized power. We may hold individual racist ideas and thoughts, but we only have the power to do damage with our actions in the rare, brief contexts where our other privileges temporarily override color privilege. A relative of mine may say racist things about black or white people in her own home, but when she engages with the wider world, as she must do daily, she?s just another brown girl, and is therefore at risk.
Well I think he might be retarded or something. Is that racist?Binnsyboy said:Oh god...Daystar Clarion said:OT: Muslamic Ray Guns!
Does he not realize it's Islamic, not Muslamic? And that "infidel" is what the Al Qaeda calls us?
Fucking hell, I'm ashamed to be British... xD
Also, people with heavy brows should not shave their heads. Even if they are using it to symbolize their racist views.
Where'd you even get that definition? And did you really just write that people of color can't be racist? Rats off to that.ratzofftoya said:I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power. On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist. African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level. Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy. Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination. While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.Chairman Miaow said:Please, go away, you are just ruining this thread for everybody. If you don't like the discussion, don't join in. We think we are not being racist. You think we are. It is obvious nobody is changing their minds, so don't waste your time and derail the thread while you are at it. If anything I have said now or previously has caused harm, I will gladly apologise for it, and the last thing I want, is to cause harm. If you want to have a discussion about the definitions of race and racism, go start your own thread, although it will no doubt descend into flame wars in seconds.ratzofftoya said:Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.Helmholtz Watson said:Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.ratzofftoya said:I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
PoC (people of color) can?t be racist, because they don?t have any reinforcement from that institutionalized power. We may hold individual racist ideas and thoughts, but we only have the power to do damage with our actions in the rare, brief contexts where our other privileges temporarily override color privilege. A relative of mine may say racist things about black or white people in her own home, but when she engages with the wider world, as she must do daily, she?s just another brown girl, and is therefore at risk.
I don't know but if you find that thread read the very last line of the last poster before it was locked. I just thought it was funny personallyBertylicious said:Hey all, quick Escapist noob question; why was the MLP thread locked? It looked innocuous enough, though I don't know much about this whole "brony" business.
Am I missing something? Is there some sort of dark underside to that weird fandom where people are attacked, verbally and physically? Brony fans of one stripe or another with their special complicated hand gestures and clothing colours, driving past one another's homes and spraying them with gunfire from cheap pistols, violence against girls who "encroach" and so on?