THQ Impressed by 3DS Anti-Piracy Tech

RMcD94

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Turtlecatpurrz said:
RMcD94 said:
In the future, all gaming money will be made via advertising (free-to-play), and we'll never have to buy anything again!
That's certainly worked out in the movies... Oh wait, now we get commercials before the show, not just movie trailers, but real commercials, and product placement during the show. Nice dream though.
That's not a problem, but the price went up, not down for the advertising. Doing it wrong people.
 

daftalchemist

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Pretty sure it was crappy games for the DS that killed sales, but what do I know? I don't bathe in hundred dollar bills every morning.
 

DarkHuntress

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If game publishers would spend less time worrying about pirates and more time creating interesting games, they and us would be a lot better off.
 

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You know, I only know 1 person who's ever pirated stuff on the DS. I know a lot of people with a DS, and I have a really hard time believing the 90 percent is pirated. I could believe that on the PC, but the DS is hard to swallow.
 

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You know, I only know 1 person who's ever pirated stuff on the DS. I know a lot of people with a DS, and I have a really hard time believing the 90 percent is pirated. I could believe that on the PC, but the DS is hard to swallow.
Thing is, pirated DS games don't have to be played on a DS with an R4. You can download DS emulators and play them on PC.

Just when you thought it was bad that people can have 2GB worth of free DS games on a single card, think about the possibilities of an entire computer hard drive full of it.
 

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They can't stop it, why? It's really quite simple.

Anything 100 Nintendo programmers can do, 10,000 nerds with no lives looking for free games can do better.
 

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Oh it's not that complicated. They hire a guy names Bruno to follow you around and if you pirate a game, he hits you on the head. Eventually, the pirates all die of massive head trauma. Problem solved.
 

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LeonLethality said:
Nothing justifies theft. If you can't pay for it, you don't get it, plain and simple. If you can't afford a couch that doesn't mean you get to steal it.
Good thing copying games isn't theft, then.
 

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fletch_talon said:
koriantor said:
You know, I only know 1 person who's ever pirated stuff on the DS. I know a lot of people with a DS, and I have a really hard time believing the 90 percent is pirated. I could believe that on the PC, but the DS is hard to swallow.
Thing is, pirated DS games don't have to be played on a DS with an R4. You can download DS emulators and play them on PC.

Just when you thought it was bad that people can have 2GB worth of free DS games on a single card, think about the possibilities of an entire computer hard drive full of it.
Even then, I have a really hard time believing it. I was aware of emulation, but I haven't seen anyone bother with it unless they were making a gameplay video. I have a few super pirate friends that went ahead and bought their DS and their games (used of course) because it's a bit more portable than emulation and they didn't want to go through the trouble for R4.

I still have a really hard time believing the 90 percent number. I want the data used for that number before I'll believe them.
 

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fletch_talon said:
koriantor said:
You know, I only know 1 person who's ever pirated stuff on the DS. I know a lot of people with a DS, and I have a really hard time believing the 90 percent is pirated. I could believe that on the PC, but the DS is hard to swallow.
Thing is, pirated DS games don't have to be played on a DS with an R4. You can download DS emulators and play them on PC.

Just when you thought it was bad that people can have 2GB worth of free DS games on a single card, think about the possibilities of an entire computer hard drive full of it.
Even then, I have a really hard time believing it. I was aware of emulation, but I haven't seen anyone bother with it unless they were making a gameplay video. I have a few super pirate friends that went ahead and bought their DS and their games (used of course) because it's a bit more portable than emulation and they didn't want to go through the trouble for R4.

I still have a really hard time believing the 90 percent number. I want the data used for that number before I'll believe them.
 

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Frankly, given the current ease of pirating games, coming out and saying "It might stop 10% of pirates" would be impressive.
 

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Funny, they keep talking about 90% of the DS users in the United States are using pirated software. I don't know anyone who does that, nor have I ever actually seen one of those R4 flash carts. You'd think if the numbers are really that high that SOMEONE in my circle of friends/acquaintances would have one. Seriously, I'm having a lot of trouble taking these numbers seriously.
 

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ark123 said:
I like how it's always "Piracy is killing us! ITS KILLING UUUUSSSSS!" instead of reality, which is "Right now we have a ridiculous amount of money pouring in, but it could be a money tsunami, and we feel that being billionaires just isn't enough"
This amuses me. Your argument is, in a nutshell "Nintendo is already making bucketloads of money, so why should they care about a potential loss of revenue". If I ever get accused of shoplifting from a major retail chain, I hope to have you on my jury since you seem to freely disregard the notion of expecting payment in return for a service.

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Btw, what are the easiest platforms to pirate games for? The Wii, the PS2 and the PC. Yeah, those are all huge commercial failures.
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Hardware sales mean little without the software, and piracy certainly drives developers away from platforms. Why would anyone actually expend any effort or resources to make a game for the PSP in this day and age for example? Companies have already thrown about stern language with regard to the piracy issues on a number of platforms, and on at least one, routinely implement the geek equivalent of a goon squad.
 

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Well if their number of 90% of DS games are pirated is real we should be seeing a much bigger hit to their annual dividends. Claiming that piracy has crippled them, while at the same time raking in tons of cash, just lacks credibility.

They have a perfect right to be concerned about piracy, as do all the other companies. They also have the 1st Amendment right to make outrageous claims like "90% of American DS owners were playing pirated games" but we also have the right to call Bullshit on them when they do. In case Nintendo hasn't noticed, there was a tiny matter of an Economic Crisis that hit the entire world and caused a lot of companies to lose money. Blaming small declines in sales on rampant and uncontrolled piracy is just stupid, we are well within our rights to say so.
 

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Ravek said:
LeonLethality said:
Nothing justifies theft. If you can't pay for it, you don't get it, plain and simple. If you can't afford a couch that doesn't mean you get to steal it.
Good thing copying games isn't theft, then.
But when you distribute them the people that are downloading them for free are steeling from the company, no not in the lost potential sales but in the fact that the company should be making money for every copy of the game out there.
 

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All this says to me is 'The 3DS will be region locked'

I really hope it won't be though, that would be infinitely annoying. All the games I want never ever see the light of a UK release.
 

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Well no matter how sophisticated they're doing it, it's going to be hacked (in my opinion). Not that I want to but that's also how to sell the hardware. The PS3 initially got pwnd because the blueray discs were a little harder to pirate and look where they are now..

I just hope people would jump ship for the Nintendo 3DS so that more games will be developed for it.
 

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This is really too bad, since it will probably set back the homebrew community. The homebrew community for the NDS was quite large and interesting and produced a lot of nice freeware/open source applications for the DS, for example Still Alive DS, Bob's Game, ClIRC, Warhawk, etc.
 

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ZombieGenesis said:
Frankly I don't think piracy will ever go away, but it wouldn't be as prominent if games weren't so unjustifiably over-expensive. The sales reception for Modern Warefare 2 were vastly greater than most DVD movie releases of that year, and most of those go from £10-20 in the face of MW2's £60. I'm also willing to bet most of those movies cost considerably more to produce than the games do.
Movies get cinema sales and I would guess a more profitable long-tail than video games.