GoaThief said:
Treblaine said:
And I've yet to hear serious criticism of SR3 that could possibly nullify all the new content and features.
It's very buggy, for an example vehicles audibly have 200+ gears and as driving is such a core feature of the game it's pretty unacceptable. Now in a "serious" game these bugs would be rightfully called out causing consumer and critic opinion of the title to fall accordingly. SR3 knows it's buggy, knows it's inconsistent and lacks pacing, ugly and technologically lacking so forget with attempting to be even semi-serious and just go wild with zaniness as it will help mask all these problems. Back to those vehicle engine sounds, notice now how they're very quiet? Yeah.
It does all that very well. I really, really enjoyed SR3 (completed it within the last week in fact) but GTA IV quality it 'aint.
What? 200 gears? What the hell does that mean? The cars don't handle like Dirt 3 they handle like Mario Kart and that is a GOOD THING as they are making cars that are fun to control, not shitty boring realism of FUUUCK I can't get round this corner because the game cares more about downforce.
These are NOT BUGS! You know they aren't.
I'm used to playing a lot of buggy console ports on my PC and SR3 has none of those problems, it's one of the best ports I've played in years, real care has gone into the controls that are so responsive. I crashed so many vehicles and set of so many explosions I just could not get any appreciable framerate drop. Now GTA4 is a truly buggy and poorly optimised mess, it plays worse than crysis and looks no metter than consoles which doesn't look very good.
I only found one bug in SR3 and it was AWESOME. If you crouch and aim with grenade launcher then you unlock the fire-rate of the grenade launcher so it fires as fast as you can tap the button. RAIN OF GRENADES! No bad bugs.
"knows it's inconsistent"
Nothing of the sort. It's very on key with it's tone. GTA4 is tone-deaf between wackiness, melodrama then ham-fisted un-funny satire.
"knows it's... ugly and technologically lacking"
So what? It's not ugly, it just not a GRAPHICS WHORE! Gameplay first. The graphics perfectly complement the GAMEPLAY! It doesn't blow $10 million on a sunset and particle effects that don't matter to the particulars of the gameplay.
"forget with attempting to be even semi-serious"
What's this obsession with seriousness? You realise you're living in a world with games like Team Fortress 2 and Serious Sam? Where COD is mercilessly mocked for it's hyper-serious melodrama. What is a valued in a sandbox games is the freedom to go wild and do what you can't do. Seriousness fits for a Sandbox game like Red Dead Redemption considering the theme of reformed-criminal as a bounty hunter finding the righteous path. Not for a game about fighting colourful crime syndicates. This wasn't ever going to be "Goodfellas: the game". Vehicle engine sounds? This is such petty nitpicking.
"GTA IV quality it 'aint."
That's the thing, GTA4 had polish but a complete lack of content. It was a graphics and physics tech-demo with nothing to demonstrate. The weapon variety was massively under-whealming compared to Saints Row the Third and such similar missions. SR3 was not an ugly game, it was one of the better looking open-world sandbox games.
This is about CONTENT!
Why is it that Doom from 1993 has more compelling level design than Call of Duty from 2011?!? 18 years separating them. Doom had such simple 3D engine, you couldn't even have corridors on top of each other and such basic textures yet they made a labyrinth to explore and fight so many different enemies in different ways. It was one of the first FPS games and it does things that virtually no FPS bothers with today them all being corridor shooters.
Graphical quality CANNOT ADD ANYTHING TO THE GAMEPLAY!! Only multiply it. You multiply any number by zero you still have zero.
I don't care how good the graphics are in a Pixar film, it's still a film. Graphics can only enhance gameplay, not compensate for lack of gameplay.
GTA4 put graphics and fancy physics above being enjoyable to play.
This is why THQ is suffering, it makes great things and people nitpick how it isn't like over-rated shit like GTA4. Fuckign hell.