Tipping Etiquette
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I always tip generously; the restaurant industry sucks, period, and the way waiters are paid is retarded. Most of them need good tips just to get by. You aren't helping gild their mansions' toilets by throwing in another %5, you're getting their utilities payed on time.
But more than just the money, it's always worth it to just be courteous and nice to your waiter. Anyone that's ever worked in the service industry can tell you that it only takes one asshole customer to ruin your whole day, and you don't know whether you're the table right before or right after that guy. So it's worth it to try and make up for that- never mind just being the right thing to do anyway.
I can't stand eating with people who treat their waiters like garbage. I've just never understood what it is about a notepad and a button-down/vest combo that scream "I'm not a person working eleven hours a day for sub-minimum wage" to some people.
But more than just the money, it's always worth it to just be courteous and nice to your waiter. Anyone that's ever worked in the service industry can tell you that it only takes one asshole customer to ruin your whole day, and you don't know whether you're the table right before or right after that guy. So it's worth it to try and make up for that- never mind just being the right thing to do anyway.
I can't stand eating with people who treat their waiters like garbage. I've just never understood what it is about a notepad and a button-down/vest combo that scream "I'm not a person working eleven hours a day for sub-minimum wage" to some people.
I'm from Canada and here tipping is second nature. Not tipping someone in a service position is viewed quite poorly by almost everyone, except when said service is exceptionally bad, of course.
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Some of my friends went on a trip to fiji, the resort they were at had a bar by the beach and when going up to order drinks, they did as they usually do and tipped the bartender(nothing extravagant, like a dollar each round).
after two days, the staff would see them setting up on the beach and would walk out to serve them their drinks before they even ordered...despite there being several ppl in line at the bar.
most of the other customers were brits and aussies and apparently those ppl just don't tip...so they got extremely angry about the "fucking canucks" that were "bribing the staff".
my friends couldn't stop laughing, but they did tell the staff they didn't want any preferential service.
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one of those guys went to england a few months later and while in a pub, dared to leave the bartender a tip...said bartender lost his shit and almost jumped over the bar to beat my friend up, yelling that he wasn't some poor slob that needed handouts.
all that to say, british ppl get upset over weird things.
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Some of my friends went on a trip to fiji, the resort they were at had a bar by the beach and when going up to order drinks, they did as they usually do and tipped the bartender(nothing extravagant, like a dollar each round).
after two days, the staff would see them setting up on the beach and would walk out to serve them their drinks before they even ordered...despite there being several ppl in line at the bar.
most of the other customers were brits and aussies and apparently those ppl just don't tip...so they got extremely angry about the "fucking canucks" that were "bribing the staff".
my friends couldn't stop laughing, but they did tell the staff they didn't want any preferential service.
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one of those guys went to england a few months later and while in a pub, dared to leave the bartender a tip...said bartender lost his shit and almost jumped over the bar to beat my friend up, yelling that he wasn't some poor slob that needed handouts.
all that to say, british ppl get upset over weird things.
Approach the cow from the side and quietly so as not to startle the creature. Then push it over from the side until it tips over. Best achieved at night.
On the money side UK is 10% usually and is optional.
On the money side UK is 10% usually and is optional.
I don't tip. You are paid to do your job; it is not my responsibility to cover your lost wages. If you do not like it, either find another job, or fix the broken system which has resulted in the rediculous social expectation that only certain jobs require extra funding from those already paying for the service.
I bet you never tell them 'thank you' either.DevilWithaHalo said:
also, that whole excuse is only legit if you're Steve Buscemi.
I usually don't tip unless the service is exceptional, if it's anything less a simple 'thanks' will suffice. Like I said, if the service is so exceptional I will leave behind a bit of change if I have it on me.
On places with a mandatory tip, well I never quite understood why they don't work the cost into the food and drinks. On tipping in the US, it's hardly my fault that restaurants don't pay their waiting staff properly and it shouldn't be imposed upon the customers to make them feel obliged to make up the pay.
A tip is a commendation, a reward and praise for great service. Paying staff a shit wage in expectance of good tips seems to negate the very point of tips in the first place. It's more like a tax than a tip with how socially accepted it is. It's not commendation for good service if you're guilted into it.
On places with a mandatory tip, well I never quite understood why they don't work the cost into the food and drinks. On tipping in the US, it's hardly my fault that restaurants don't pay their waiting staff properly and it shouldn't be imposed upon the customers to make them feel obliged to make up the pay.
A tip is a commendation, a reward and praise for great service. Paying staff a shit wage in expectance of good tips seems to negate the very point of tips in the first place. It's more like a tax than a tip with how socially accepted it is. It's not commendation for good service if you're guilted into it.
Where I'm from, tipping IS common courtesy.Matthew94 said:
If you see your logic as a valid reason not to tip, how does it not apply equally to simple gratitude as well?
after all, it's thanking someone for doing their job, a job that they're already getting paid for.
We don't tip. If I do tip its because they gave such great service that I want to tip them but they don't get extra money for just doing their job. You don't see other people getting tipped even though their job is probably harder than just carrying a fucking plate 20 feet.
Oh and don't give me any bullshit about them being tip dependant. The only reason they would be "tip dependant" is if they are fucking stupid and do not know the law.
Even in America, if tips do not add up to at least minimum wage then the employer must make up the difference to minimum wage.
If you can't be fucked learning the law then you do not have the right to whine if people don't tip you.
Oh and anyone with the attitude of "If I don't get tipped then I will spit in their food next time." should be fired and barred from working with food ever again. These people disgust me and do not deserve a job. They want to act like savages then let them live on the street.
Oh and don't give me any bullshit about them being tip dependant. The only reason they would be "tip dependant" is if they are fucking stupid and do not know the law.
Even in America, if tips do not add up to at least minimum wage then the employer must make up the difference to minimum wage.
If you can't be fucked learning the law then you do not have the right to whine if people don't tip you.
Oh and anyone with the attitude of "If I don't get tipped then I will spit in their food next time." should be fired and barred from working with food ever again. These people disgust me and do not deserve a job. They want to act like savages then let them live on the street.
If the the waiter was OK 15 percent, If they were bad usually the same but I will round down to the nearest dollar. If the service was great then at least 15% sometimes 20%.
I can tell you've never worked in the restaurant business. While, yes, there are harder jobs out there, the waiter/waitress' job is not just "carrying a fucking plate 20 feet".Monkeyman O said:
Its not your fault that your employer doesn't pay you the correct amount, so you aren't allowed to complain. Tell me if that makes sense, mate.
We here don't tip. We pay for a product. If tipping is obligatory, then raise the price for the product. I'm not going to pay for something which isn't on the bill.
My father may have been a coke-head, but he did teach me one valuable lesson. Tip well. I always tip at restaurants, especially to those who treated me well. I tip even better at places where I frequent often. People remember you and do you favors without your asking.
For example: Just yesterday I came into a pizza place I go to a lot. I don't know any of the people there by name, but they recognize me. The guy at the counter told me my order before I said anything ( I always order the same thing) and then threw in a free drink. He also put my order ahead of some who ordered before me. Bribery is the strongest form of flattery... or something like that.
For example: Just yesterday I came into a pizza place I go to a lot. I don't know any of the people there by name, but they recognize me. The guy at the counter told me my order before I said anything ( I always order the same thing) and then threw in a free drink. He also put my order ahead of some who ordered before me. Bribery is the strongest form of flattery... or something like that.
Speaking of learning the law, did you know that minimum wage laws in the U.S. are state based?Monkeyman O said:
did you know some states don't even have a minimum wage?
so, which state(s) has this law where employers have to pay out tips to meet minimum wage?
GrandmaFunk said:
Chef of nine years. So yeah, I guess you cant tell who has worked in hospitality.kortin said:
And it is your fault if you are too damn lazy to learn the law and find out what you are entitled to. If you don't wanna put in the extra effort, don't go looking to others for a hand out.
Its not giving him money just to give him money.Blargh McBlargh said:
Think back to your school days. At some point during that time, one of your teachers had to have rewarded you with something when you got an A+ on something, right? Maybe its just a piece of candy or something, but its a reward. Getting that piece of candy made you do what? It made you want another piece, right? Now, you realized the correlation between getting the piece of candy and getting the A+, so what did you do? You strive to get another A+ so you can get another piece of candy.
This might just be because I live in a small country town, but I get the same kind of service from the local pizza place. I always strike up a conversation and without leaving a tip they know my usual order and ocasionally I get a free portion of chips or a can of pop. I appreciate that the culture over there is different concerning tips but I've never quite understood why it's so accepted that no tip leads to poor service next time, that's a terrible work ethic.Fappy said:
I didn't mean to imply that tip = being treated well. Returning costumers is guaranteed money and you can rely on them. Plus, people in the service industry are people too, so its no surprise that they'd want to be nice to someone they like. I think my point was: tipping never hurtsAzure-Supernova said:
