I'm talking about the new GOW, Caddicarus had the same problems with that game that I did.
TLOU2 Review Thread
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You're putting words in my mouth. All I did was point out how shocked I was. I knew they wouldn't like it as much compared to the first game, because Japan has a habit of hating things that are super grimdark, unless it's coming from them some of the time. So you can stop with the whole accusing the person doing this or that. I barely gives a rat's ass about last of us 2. I already mentioned made its money, but I'm more worried about the long-term ramifications with everybody acting up in this shitstorm. if you love it more power to you but don't go overly defensive with the game. There are people with legit criticisms love it or not. And I already know about the ones who are just hating it for the sake of it. So don't even bother or get started. It's an unfortunate reality of life, but I tend to ignore the people who act like idiots.
It does kinda speak to on our own social issues, and reflects it back in a way. Not sure how much of it is passion or just an outlet for other personal misery. The game seemed like it was designed to be a shit magnet though. Pretty unfortunate since it is made exceptionally well from a technical/artistic standpoint. The design choices involving story beats, structure, characters and pacing are what mainly bog it down. I don’t mind the dark brooding tone, but it could’ve used some more levity besides smalltalk banter about angry wives and such. For all the excellence in character performances they don’t have much personality on display, which would’ve also been nice. I’m spoiled by the camp life of RDR2 I guess.
Having said that, in terms of story I always try to go in with a grain of salt, and realize that it’s art like anything creative. It’s technically not there to please me or even agree with how I think it woulda/coulda/shoulda been, so to help preserve my sanity whether it’s books, movies, TV, games, etc. I try to make sense of it from the writer’s perspective and ultimately accept it for what it is, good or bad. For instance I don’t feel the characters can be specifically faulted for behaving as they do, because they are written to be flawed. At most I can lay criticism down for how their individual threads are tied together.
I’d like the full story to eventually surface sooner than later about the reasoning behind her character model. IIRC they’ve only said it was to help LGTBQ’s feel comfortable, which is understandable. But whether she was always intended to be designed as cis or not isn’t entirely certain. Her voice hadn’t deepened at all from the four year gap before and after her traumatic experience, which would’ve suggested hormone therapy might have contributed to her appearance.
I’ll have to take it for how I see/hear it until more is revealed, if ever.
and now you're putting words in mine.
What "long-term ramifications"? LOL if this is another nonsense conspiracy theory about how all the positive reviews were paid off or something like that i'm out.
I'll definitely ignore the people acting like idiots starting with you.
Sounds like you're the one getting "overly defensive" here bub.
If you "barely give a rat's ass" then why are you even bothering to post on a dedicated thread for the game at all? That makes zero sense, i truly don't give a rat's ass about Madden, but you don't see me on the dedicated forums for it.
I highly doubt Abby was originally trans, that's just another dumbass conspiracy invented by chuds on 4chan.
i thought they had a decent amount of personality on display, I liked Manny's "latin lover" stuff(especially that embarrassing love note that he snatches away from Abby as soon as you try to put it in your pack LOL) and I liked hearing Dina talk about her religion.
Has God of War ever had a satisfying boss fight and conclusion? They’ve only ever seemed to nail the openings.
I like discussing with the people who are sensible on this thread. I do healthy discussion, not pointless back and forth arguments. How about you worry about you, and you worry less about me.
I think Ellie finds her feet as a character near the end, but I really didn't like how she was written right after Joel's death. That moment is so traumatic to her yet that same night she's already talking about going after the people who did it. This feels out of character. Ellie was never someone who would be out for blood, or to let her emotions totally get the better of her. Even more out of character is for her to drag someone she loves into this, and abandon a community that partially depends on her. Ellie is more responsible than that.
In the farmhouse chapter near he end it feels way more believeable for her to leave, since we're shown she's suffering from PTSD and that the trauma of losing Joel the way she did is controlling every day of her life and has been for months. But we don't get that near the start of the game, so it just feels like a whim. Had the game given us a timeskip of a month or two showing us Ellie tried to deal with her grief and trauma but just couldn't and decided to set out, I would've had an easier time empathizing with her motivation, but as is, no.
It also feels like she's just instantly in vengeance mode. There's no sense of a decline of her morallity, the only difference between Ellie in Seattle Day 1 and Ellie in Seattle Day 3 being a bunch of dead bodies.
I don't see how it's out of character at all, we have no idea how much has passed when she starts talking about going after them, didn't feel on a whim to me or instantly. I did feel like there was a decline.
I don't see how inventing conspiracy theories out of thin air is "healthy discussion" in the least.
I think that a case for reasonable belief can be made for the theory that Abby was originally trans. The evidence is all circumstantial, but that's enough for reasonable belief.
I mean, have you seen her in-game shirtless chest?
Depends on who you are talking about. I usually avoid that shit. If someone does I call it out when necessary. Even if I agree or disagree with them, that is no excuse to not try healthy discussion. I won't drag this on too long because I'm not throwing this thread off topic. I suggest you channel that passion and put it to better use. If I were you, I be ignoring everyone and just enjoying the game and find out myself. That's how I work. Regardless if it's a game I enjoy or not, I'll play certain sections or the entire game agai, just to see others point of view. It does not matter if I agree or disagree with them.
Plenty of actual women in real life have chests like that, you're really coming off as a transphobe here, no there's not enough evidence for "reasonable belief", sounds like you've been spending too much time on 4chan.
Excellent! Now go for the hardest difficulty! Unless you started on the hardest difficulty, then never mind that.
Eh not really a fan of playing games on hard difficulties these days, I just don't have the time or the patience for that most of the time. I traded in my copy of the game recently(I prefer physical copies of games for a number of reasons) for Darksiders Genesis which I do plan on getting around to at some point.
Understandable. when I buy a game I know I'm going to enjoy, I do get my money's worth. Regardless if I paid at full price or not. It does not always work out that way, but when it does, I freaking love it. Especially when I'm playing a stylish action game. I don't have time for 25 to 40+hour games. I'm more of us 6 to the 15-hour person. Even when I had spare time back then, I would usually avoid the overly-long games anyway.