Trailers: Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PAX 2011 Trailer

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anthony87

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Hope took a level in badass?

Can Hope even take a level in badass in the first place?
 

Arina Love

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loved XIII can't wait for XIII-2! i hope lightning will have bigger role than trailers lead to believe.
 

The Great JT

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Oh boy, I get the feeling that this game is in trouble. Seriously, why would you bring back the whiniest, most pathetic, annoying, rage-inducing character in Final Fantasy history? Is there a single person in existance who found Hope the least bit likeable? The entire time I've played Final Fantasy XIII all I've wanted to do is pound his annoying, whining face into jelly with a truncheon! And then you bring him back?! NO!! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!! NO NO NO! нет, không có, 无, नहीं, nicht, なし なし なし, Aucun and every other language that has ever existed and will ever exists's spelling and interpretation of NO!

Now some of you may think I'm over-reacting. Well to those of you who think that...

Hope was such an annoying character that if I were to torture him, the damn Cenobites would tell me to ease off on him! I want him to suffer! TO BRING HIM BACK IN ANOTHER GAME IS, TO ME, THE EQUIVALENT OF A WAR CRIME.
 

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The Great JT said:
Oh boy, I get the feeling that this game is in trouble. Seriously, why would you bring back the whiniest, most pathetic, annoying, rage-inducing character in Final Fantasy history? Is there a single person in existance who found Hope the least bit likeable? The entire time I've played Final Fantasy XIII all I've wanted to do is pound his annoying, whining face into jelly with a truncheon! And then you bring him back?! NO!! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!! NO NO NO! нет, không có, 无, नहीं, nicht, なし なし なし, Aucun and every other language that has ever existed and will ever exists's spelling and interpretation of NO!

Now some of you may think I'm over-reacting. Well to those of you who think that...

Hope was such an annoying character that if I were to torture him, the damn Cenobites would tell me to ease off on him! I want him to suffer! TO BRING HIM BACK IN ANOTHER GAME IS, TO ME, THE EQUIVALENT OF A WAR CRIME.
I'm sorry to hear you say that. Especially since Hope was my favorite character in XIII and the character I could connect with most. He had the most development as a character in the game, he had the best interactions with characters(particularly Lightning and Snow), and when it came to gameplay he could become both the best magic-using Ravager and the best Synergist. Most people bash him in the beginning when he was acting how a regular kid would react when put into that situation, then forget how later in the game he becomes a voice of reason and starts standing up for himself(and rarely mentions his mother again).

Now if you were talking about Sazh, I might have to agree with you though. God did he annoy the crap out of me...
 

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burningdragoon said:
Thankfully for me, Final Fantasy Syndrome only affects me for the single-numbered installments.
Amen.
Think I'll fire up IX again and play the fuck out of it, just for spite.
Any direct sequel to a FF game, is a mistake.
Kind of like how Fire Emblem games shouldn't have sequels.
 

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Every part of me wants to not like this game. But I will buy it. I will play it. I, while playing it, will love it.


It can't be worse than 12 can it? No. No it can't.
 

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Torrasque said:
burningdragoon said:
Thankfully for me, Final Fantasy Syndrome only affects me for the single-numbered installments.
Amen.
Think I'll fire up IX again and play the fuck out of it, just for spite.
Any direct sequel to a FF game, is a mistake.
Kind of like how Fire Emblem games shouldn't have sequels.
You sir, have given me perhaps the best idea I've ever had (video game related at least). What if on the release day of FFXIII-2, every person instead purchased some older Final Fantasy title. FF7, FF8, FF9 or Tactics on PSN, whatever is on Wii's virtual console. Dissidia even. If Squeenix made boat loads of money from Final Fantasy on 13-2 release, but not from 13-2, I think that would be incredible.

Sadly I don't have enough pull on the internet to organize that... bummer.
 

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00:06 - Wait, why is Liara T'soni in...? Oh.

02:16 - OMG! Everyone's favourite character is back! Rejoice!
 

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Infernai said:
Vankraken said:
Every minute and dollar spent on something like this is time and money that would be better spent on making another tactics game.
Or spent making Versus 13 even better then it already appears to be (Which is already pretty fucking good).

Again i must ask: Was there really a large group of people foaming at the mouth and demanding a sequel to 13?
Try the 5-7 million people who bought XIII and Square Enix would say yes. Those kind of numbers just don't lie that the game was popular, even with all the negative feedback (which they're listening to)

People just don't seem to realise that XIII-2 and Vs XIII are made by different teams. Vs XIII is being made by the Kingdom Hearts team and XIII-2 is being made by those who made XIII.

There was a LOT of mythos and story of the worlds of Cocoon and Pulse still left to be told in XIII, and that was one thing that I hoped to learn more of as I finished XIII. I'm glad they are making a sequel, and y'know this is in the same 'universe' as Vs XIII and so the whole 'The Maker' and 'Goddess Etro' ties in very closely to vs XIII.

Don't believe me? Go and watch one of the gameplay trailers of Vs XIII and they will talk about the Goddess of Death (i.e. where they get their magic from in that game) and that is Goddess Etro... the same Goddess Etro who Lightning serves in XIII-2.
 

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Will it be game over if the character you're controlling dies? What about if the other two can both cast Raise?

Will every single battle take 5-10 minutes to slog through, and be more like a chore than fun?
 

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Torrasque said:
burningdragoon said:
Thankfully for me, Final Fantasy Syndrome only affects me for the single-numbered installments.
Amen.
Think I'll fire up IX again and play the fuck out of it, just for spite.
Any direct sequel to a FF game, is a mistake.
Kind of like how Fire Emblem games shouldn't have sequels.
What was wrong with Radiant Dawn? It was just more Path of Radiance. How is that not a winning combination!?
 

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MorphingDragon said:
Torrasque said:
burningdragoon said:
Thankfully for me, Final Fantasy Syndrome only affects me for the single-numbered installments.
Amen.
Think I'll fire up IX again and play the fuck out of it, just for spite.
Any direct sequel to a FF game, is a mistake.
Kind of like how Fire Emblem games shouldn't have sequels.
What was wrong with Radiant Dawn? It was just more Path of Radiance. How is that not a winning combination!?
I enjoyed it too, but there were way too many characters that I never used. Far too many "I am terrible no matter how you use me" characters for my liking, just like Shadow Dragon.
 

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Sober Thal said:
Why is the guy from Kingdom Hearts in Final Fantasy?

Why are there no parties of three shown?

I liked FFXIII, why can't I find anything to like in this?!

Why must I ask why in every sentence?! WHY?!
I'm guessing you didn't see the info from E3 2011? Huh. The third character in the party for a bunch of battles is a monster, you capture certain monsters randomly, each has their own combat role (the lizard with the shell is a Sentinel, a Flanbanero is a Ravager, etc).

Gotta say, even though I actually enjoyed FFXIII and it's awesome battle system, I.. Don't know what they're thinking bringing Hope back. Who knows, maybe he has learned how to be badass for once.

That said, I've read *loads* of stuff on Twitter from people absolutely over-the-moon-excited that Hope is returning. My mind exploded. More Sazh and/or Fang please, or GTFO.

But eh, what the fuck was I expecting of The Escapist community anyway? I knew it would just be pages of Final Fantasy bashing. Typical..
 

MattAn24

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Olrod said:
Will it be game over if the character you're controlling dies? What about if the other two can both cast Raise?

Will every single battle take 5-10 minutes to slog through, and be more like a chore than fun?
Wait, you took more than 5-10 minutes for battles in FFXIII? You're doing it wrong. The battles are meant to be quick and action-packed. This isn't the '90s anymore. The old ATB "Attack, Attack, Attack, Waitwaitwait, Attack, Wait" scenario is beyond over.

How the hell do you expect to control the 2 AI characters as well in a battle system that has a fast-paced "Enter commands in right the fuck now, you piece of shit! nature?

Sigh.. So silly. :(
 

MattAn24

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Infernai said:
Vankraken said:
Every minute and dollar spent on something like this is time and money that would be better spent on making another tactics game.
Or spent making Versus 13 even better then it already appears to be (Which is already pretty fucking good).

Again i must ask: Was there really a large group of people foaming at the mouth and demanding a sequel to 13?
All the bitching about Versus is annoying too, considering that the crew working on FFXIII/FFXIII-2 has literally NOTHING to do with FF Versus XIII. Versus XIII is being made by the Kingdom Hearts team. If there's a game you want to ***** about them releasing, it's Kingdom Hearts 3.
 

MattAn24

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Riku said:
Try the 5-7 million people who bought XIII and Square Enix would say yes. Those kind of numbers just don't lie that the game was popular, even with all the negative feedback (which they're listening to)

People just don't seem to realise that XIII-2 and Vs XIII are made by different teams. Vs XIII is being made by the Kingdom Hearts team and XIII-2 is being made by those who made XIII.

There was a LOT of mythos and story of the worlds of Cocoon and Pulse still left to be told in XIII, and that was one thing that I hoped to learn more of as I finished XIII. I'm glad they are making a sequel, and y'know this is in the same 'universe' as Vs XIII and so the whole 'The Maker' and 'Goddess Etro' ties in very closely to vs XIII.

Don't believe me? Go and watch one of the gameplay trailers of Vs XIII and they will talk about the Goddess of Death (i.e. where they get their magic from in that game) and that is Goddess Etro... the same Goddess Etro who Lightning serves in XIII-2.
Holy crap, someone who is smart on The Escapist forum? I AM AMAZE. You, sir, get unlimited amounts of internet and win. Use them wisely!

Also, by "universe", it's mainly just the whole l'Cie/fal'Cie/Eidolon/Goddess Etro stuff, as you mentioned. Versus XIII isn't set anywhere near Cocoon or Pulse, it just uses a bunch of similar lore.

I'm sure that's what you meant and all, but just sayin'~! :D
 

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If a direct Final Fantasy sequel is released into the wood and no one is around to hear it. Does anyone really care?

I don't. Final Fantasy XIII was a lobotomy on a disc. XII rocked the bridge for me but XIII burned it. I'm not going to be buying any more Final Fantasy games that aren't remakes. I used to love the series, but they just don't have it anymore.
 

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I have said it once and I will say it again. FF Verses 13 is the only hope left for the series. I have loved FF since I played 6. 6 to 10 are among my favorite games in the world and as much as I hated 10-2 it did have the happy ending I wanted at the end of 10 so I can overlook everything else (Did anyone like all that Y,R,P crap!?). I have never played 11 as I do not like online games so I cannot judge, FF 12 was return of the jedi done badly (big flying ship with big gun that can blow up whole citys is attacked by a small rebel fleet while the mian charactors board it and fight the Emperor of the Empire. Really he is an Emperor and his kingdom is refered to as the Empire!).

As for 13 I could not finish it. The story was crap and the characters were so bad that I could just not take it any longer. I have never wanted a kid to die in any game, book or movie as much as I wanted Hope to die.
And Snow. WHAT A FUCKING DOUCHE!!! He is a super douche. He is king of douche land. If you took the worlds biggest doche, cloned them 50 times and then combined them to create the ultimete super douche in the universe, you would still not come close to how much of a douche Snow is.

So after having suffered through all this instead of getting Verses we have to suffer through a sequal to the worst FF game ever. I never judge a game until I have played it but considering the guy in charge has only made two FF games before and they were X-2 and 13 I am going to go ahead and say that this is going to suck. SQ say it is going to be better than 13 in every way. The only way you could make it worse is by adding QTEs. Wait..... FUCK!