Trailers: Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PAX 2011 Trailer

[FriedRicer]

For what i see everyone skipped the most important issue made in the trailer.
If the Moogle changes in to a bow... witch part of his body is the String...

But on the topic, yeah, FF XIII was terrible, very long, limited leveling was a pain, ending of the plot (actually the whole main plot) didnt actuall have sense. Characters were decent and grinding at the end was just more Korean than Japanese. But I really want to play second part, and i will repeat the first one soon, just after I get 100% Achievements in Arkham Asylum.

I will serve you until the end of time!Penis-string indeed...

OT:Tactics.We need more of it!The anime-jrpg crossroad approach is just 'bleh' at this point.

 

[FriedRicer]

Try the 5-7 million people who bought XIII and Square Enix would say yes. Those kind of numbers just don't lie that the game was popular, even with all the negative feedback (which they're listening to)

People just don't seem to realise that XIII-2 and Vs XIII are made by different teams. Vs XIII is being made by the Kingdom Hearts team and XIII-2 is being made by those who made XIII.

There was a LOT of mythos and story of the worlds of Cocoon and Pulse still left to be told in XIII, and that was one thing that I hoped to learn more of as I finished XIII. I'm glad they are making a sequel, and y'know this is in the same 'universe' as Vs XIII and so the whole 'The Maker' and 'Goddess Etro' ties in very closely to vs XIII.

Don't believe me? Go and watch one of the gameplay trailers of Vs XIII and they will talk about the Goddess of Death (i.e. where they get their magic from in that game) and that is Goddess Etro... the same Goddess Etro who Lightning serves in XIII-2.

Holy crap, someone who is smart on The Escapist forum? I AM AMAZE. You, sir, get unlimited amounts of internet and win. Use them wisely!

Also, by "universe", it's mainly just the whole l'Cie/fal'Cie/Eidolon/Goddess Etro stuff, as you mentioned. Versus XIII isn't set anywhere near Cocoon or Pulse, it just uses a bunch of similar lore.

I'm sure that's what you meant and all, but just sayin'~!

I've read through your impressive quadruple post, and I take it by 'smart' you mean someone who shares your point of view and doesn't think 13 was an uninteresting turd and who thinks that Final Fantasy hasn't been ran into the fucking ground?

Whatever man.

If you cool kids are so much more on the ball then the rest of us, riddle me this. If FF13 began development in 2004, and the first E3 details were released in 2006, and the game wasn't actually released in Japan until 3 years later, then how was 13-2 cranked out in about a year?

Now while you think about that, think about this: Art Director for 13, Isamu Kamikokuryou, has gone on record at FF Reunion that there was enough material removed from FF13 to create a new game(his words). The producer, Yoshinori Kitase, also said that there was DLC prepared, but all talk of that mysteriously disappeared.

So we have a new game appearing in an astonishingly fast time-scale, FF13 having huge chunks of content taken from it, and a supposed DLC pack disappearing. Make what conclusions you will.

Apparently,they spent most of thier time developing cut-scenes...take that for what you will!
BTW I agree with you.

 

[hooksashands]

They couldn't pay me to give a damn.

 

[themilo504]

at least we saw some game play it looks.... better than 13 but that's not saying much.
you know when people ask for a remake for ff7 its not only because 7 is beyond ugly but because they want to remember the good times and 7 was the best time.
i wish that they made a ds remake of 7 or 6 or 5 that would be awesome.

 

[feauxx]

oh crap i want this game, i really do. but the added quicktime events? i suck at those! dnw..

 

[jacobythehedgehog]

I can hardly wait for this game, So Excited!!

 

[MDSnowman]

Every minute and dollar spent on something like this is time and money that would be better spent on making another tactics game.

Or spent making Versus 13 even better then it already appears to be (Which is already pretty fucking good).

Again i must ask: Was there really a large group of people foaming at the mouth and demanding a sequel to 13?

Try the 5-7 million people who bought XIII and Square Enix would say yes. Those kind of numbers just don't lie that the game was popular, even with all the negative feedback (which they're listening to)

I bought the game and was filled with weapon's grade level of regret over it.

FXIII was an extremely overrated pile of hype that people bought on Reflex because "ZOMG New FF game."

I tried to convince myself that the combat system didn't resent me being there, I tried to convince myself that the endless hallways with pretty scenery weren't rail roads, I tried to convince myself that I actually cared about these characters.

But you know what?

That much blind denial doesn't exist in my area code.

These days if you want to play a decent RPG the best place to go is a hand held. So until Square gets off their arses and makes a FFVII remake (no it won't take 40 years, especially if you don't mess with the gameplay and change the battle system like you love to do) I'll be playing Valkyria Chronicles 2 or Tactics Ogre.

 

[Defense]

If a direct Final Fantasy sequel is released into the wood and no one is around to hear it. Does anyone really care?

I don't. Final Fantasy XIII was a lobotomy on a disc. XII rocked the bridge for me but XIII burned it. I'm not going to be buying any more Final Fantasy games that aren't remakes. I used to love the series, but they just don't have it anymore.

Two bad games=series ruined forever!

maybe they already covered this but...where the fuck is snow?

He's missing apparently?I don't know either.

Having just replayed FFIX, only one thing springs to mind: Why arent square going back to that? Loads of trivial stuff that actually makes it FEEL LIKE AN RPG:
-Open worlds with world maps. Its so easy to make too! World maps are exactly that: a map. Maps dont need great graphics.
-walking around the towns (more than one town!)
-talking with/ignoring whoever you want
-sidequests
-minigames
-slightly different story depending on what team members you chose
-having choices that slightly affects the story(!!!)

Isn't that exactly what they're going for though? Versus XIII will be Sandbox-esque, XIII-2 will have multiple endings and choices in the game that actually affect gameplay as well as minigames, and Type-0 will have a world map.

XIII seems like nothing more than a rare occurence.

 

[OrenjiJusu]

So incredibly unexcited for this.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Oh god they added quick time events to turn based combat
And I was just joking with a buddy how to make the worst possible gameplay, these guys are reading my freekin mind!

I actually know how to improve it immensely, remove all gameplay, then I will be far more interested in it.

 

[stef1987]

I might have enjoyed 12 if they didn't stick in an incredibly difficult boss a quarter way through the game, and surround you with monsters that give terribly low exp so you can't level yourself out of the situation.

What ? when was FF12 difficult ? (aside from the side missions, and the final boss)
I have no idea what boss you're talking about,
I had to skip on lots of random encounters cause the game was just too easy (as I have to do in most RPGs).

Anyway, I kinda sorta liked ff12 and FF13, urgh, mixed feelings about both, but for the exact opposite reasons.
I liked the game mechanics and everything in 12, but not the story.
And I liked the story in FF13, but not the game mechanics.
(well ok, not entirely opposit; I loved the visual style in both, and I didn't like the characters in either).

Only FF I really like was 10, but the sequel was horrible and I never even bought it or finished it.

 

[StarStruckStrumpets]

I might have enjoyed 12 if they didn't stick in an incredibly difficult boss a quarter way through the game, and surround you with monsters that give terribly low exp so you can't level yourself out of the situation.

What ? when was FF12 difficult ? (aside from the side missions, and the final boss)
I have no idea what boss you're talking about,
I had to skip on lots of random encounters cause the game was just too easy (as I have to do in most RPGs).

Anyway, I kinda sorta liked ff12 and FF13, urgh, mixed feelings about both, but for the exact opposite reasons.
I liked the game mechanics and everything in 12, but not the story.
And I liked the story in FF13, but not the game mechanics.
(well ok, not entirely opposit; I loved the visual style in both, and I didn't like the characters in either).

Only FF I really like was 10, but the sequel was horrible and I never even bought it or finished it.

Elder Wyrm is a notoriously difficult early-to-mid stage boss in Final Fantasy XII. Some sites say it is skippable if you go about things in a certain way, while others say he's compulsory. Elder Wyrm was the big flower-mushroom dragon that inflicts your party with oil, poison, blindness and something else in one move, then spams fireball until your party are all dead. Not to mention he has ridiculously high health.

 

[Princess Rose]

^^ Looks good to me. I always liked Sarah - looking forward to her as playable.

Also, looks to be the same combat system. Good. FF 10-2 screwed itself by completely changing one of my favorite FF combat systems for a much less fun one.

 

[Inkidu]

I don't. Final Fantasy XIII was a lobotomy on a disc. XII rocked the bridge for me but XIII burned it. I'm not going to be buying any more Final Fantasy games that aren't remakes. I used to love the series, but they just don't have it anymore.

Two bad games=series ruined forever!

Two exceptionally bad games in an otherwise solid to stellar franchise, and no clear indication that they're trying to learn from them. So... yeah, kind of ruined. At the very least extensively soiled. I mean, you think Square-Enix would have learned with X-2. :\

Plus, the whole series isn't ruined, just anything that's not a remake. I'm just not going to look on the Final Fantasy franchise as I once did. It's changed way too much into something I don't like at best and find downright insulting at the worst.

 

[Defense]

I don't. Final Fantasy XIII was a lobotomy on a disc. XII rocked the bridge for me but XIII burned it. I'm not going to be buying any more Final Fantasy games that aren't remakes. I used to love the series, but they just don't have it anymore.

Two bad games=series ruined forever!

Two exceptionally bad games in an otherwise solid to stellar franchise, and no clear indication that they're trying to learn from them. So... yeah, kind of ruined. At the very least extensively soiled. I mean, you think Square-Enix would have learned with X-2. :\

Plus, the whole series isn't ruined, just anything that's not a remake. I'm just not going to look on the Final Fantasy franchise as I once did. It's changed way too much into something I don't like at best and find downright insulting at the worst.

I take it you never tried the Type-0 demo or played any of the handheld games then.

By the way, Final Fantasy II is much worse than XII and XIII.

 

[Inkidu]

I don't. Final Fantasy XIII was a lobotomy on a disc. XII rocked the bridge for me but XIII burned it. I'm not going to be buying any more Final Fantasy games that aren't remakes. I used to love the series, but they just don't have it anymore.

Two bad games=series ruined forever!

Two exceptionally bad games in an otherwise solid to stellar franchise, and no clear indication that they're trying to learn from them. So... yeah, kind of ruined. At the very least extensively soiled. I mean, you think Square-Enix would have learned with X-2. :\

Plus, the whole series isn't ruined, just anything that's not a remake. I'm just not going to look on the Final Fantasy franchise as I once did. It's changed way too much into something I don't like at best and find downright insulting at the worst.

I take it you never tried the Type-0 demo or played any of the handheld games then.

By the way, Final Fantasy II is much worse than XII and XIII.

No idea what you're talking about on the demo, and it depends on what you mean by handhelds. I stopped playing Final Fantasy spin-offs after the atrocious Dirge of Cerberus, and Tactics was okay. Final Fantasy II was bad, but I'd rather play it than XII or XIII any day. Actually though a lot of the remakes fix a lot of the issues it had, so it's become very playable.

 

[Inkidu]

EDIT: Double post, my bad. Delete if you please.

 

[wehrp3nguin]

Is this supposed to replace "FF13- Versus"? If not, where are the girls in bikinis?