I don't understand... PCs have all the headset/phone functions, how come this feature can't be integrated to PC?
I WANT TO SAY FUS-RO-DAH!~ damn!
I WANT TO SAY FUS-RO-DAH!~ damn!
Zenimax/Bethesda dont have any stake in the kinect, No matter how many kinect owners hook up their kinect with skyrim bethesda wont make a cent, With a generic mic (especially most of the xbox branded ones) the quality is absoloute garbage and would show up the feature badly, it'd likley work fine with high quality mics but some people are stupid and will immediatly get on the internet and go "wahhhh bethesda why no speech work properly". with the kinect they have some form of standard and they can optimize much more efficntly, all normal headsets will give the xbox slightly differant feedback depending on the brand and they cant optimize for everythingGeneralTwinkle said:What about the crazy money grabbing? This is just obnoxious, forcing you to spend 200 dollars so you can shout at your tv. It's not so much the feature, even though I think they could've done something more interesting. It's just the ridiculous pushing of kinect kinect, kinect, trying to make you spend all your money. This could be done with the xbox headset, they did it for End war, and that was ages ago.Hunter65416 said:Good News: YOU DONT HAVE TO, People need to stop whineing, This is a rear instance when kinect actually makes a game better, especially with followers, I hate being in a dungeon where you suddenly come across a ceiling trap, you have to talk to your follower, tell them to wait, run across to the other side, turn off the trap, run back across to the start again and finally tell them to follow. Is this a good enough reason to buy kinect? No. Will this improve the game and make fiddly things you have to do quicker? Yes. Do you have to use this if you dont want to? Hell no.GeneralTwinkle said:This is just dumb, I don't want to shout at the tv then hear my character yell it again. And talking to your follower with "Ally, attack" sounds like you're talking to a robot, not a companion.
And even then, I'm sure they could find some better way to implement kinect more then just a microphone.
Hunter65416 said:Zenimax/Bethesda dont have any stake in the kinect, No matter how many kinect owners hook up their kinect with skyrim bethesda wont make a cent, With a generic mic (especially most of the xbox branded ones) the quality is absoloute garbage and would show up the feature badly, it'd likley work fine with high quality mics but some people are stupid and will immediatly get on the internet and go "wahhhh bethesda why no speech work properly". with the kinect they have some form of standard and they can optimize much more efficntly, all normal headsets will give the xbox slightly differant feedback depending on the brand and they cant optimize for everythingGeneralTwinkle said:What about the crazy money grabbing? This is just obnoxious, forcing you to spend 200 dollars so you can shout at your tv. It's not so much the feature, even though I think they could've done something more interesting. It's just the ridiculous pushing of kinect kinect, kinect, trying to make you spend all your money. This could be done with the xbox headset, they did it for End war, and that was ages ago.Hunter65416 said:Good News: YOU DONT HAVE TO, People need to stop whineing, This is a rear instance when kinect actually makes a game better, especially with followers, I hate being in a dungeon where you suddenly come across a ceiling trap, you have to talk to your follower, tell them to wait, run across to the other side, turn off the trap, run back across to the start again and finally tell them to follow. Is this a good enough reason to buy kinect? No. Will this improve the game and make fiddly things you have to do quicker? Yes. Do you have to use this if you dont want to? Hell no.GeneralTwinkle said:This is just dumb, I don't want to shout at the tv then hear my character yell it again. And talking to your follower with "Ally, attack" sounds like you're talking to a robot, not a companion.
And even then, I'm sure they could find some better way to implement kinect more then just a microphone.
It can be done but not as easily as it can be with just one standard mic, also MS probably wouldnt want people doing that because firstly they want people to buy the kinect and secondly because people use their mic to talk with other people either in or out of game.. so your somewhat right about the cash-grabbing thing but its not really about bethesda, either way its a great feature if you have a kinect and your not really missing out on much if you dontGeneralTwinkle said:Hunter65416 said:Zenimax/Bethesda dont have any stake in the kinect, No matter how many kinect owners hook up their kinect with skyrim bethesda wont make a cent, With a generic mic (especially most of the xbox branded ones) the quality is absoloute garbage and would show up the feature badly, it'd likley work fine with high quality mics but some people are stupid and will immediatly get on the internet and go "wahhhh bethesda why no speech work properly". with the kinect they have some form of standard and they can optimize much more efficntly, all normal headsets will give the xbox slightly differant feedback depending on the brand and they cant optimize for everythingGeneralTwinkle said:What about the crazy money grabbing? This is just obnoxious, forcing you to spend 200 dollars so you can shout at your tv. It's not so much the feature, even though I think they could've done something more interesting. It's just the ridiculous pushing of kinect kinect, kinect, trying to make you spend all your money. This could be done with the xbox headset, they did it for End war, and that was ages ago.Hunter65416 said:Good News: YOU DONT HAVE TO, People need to stop whineing, This is a rear instance when kinect actually makes a game better, especially with followers, I hate being in a dungeon where you suddenly come across a ceiling trap, you have to talk to your follower, tell them to wait, run across to the other side, turn off the trap, run back across to the start again and finally tell them to follow. Is this a good enough reason to buy kinect? No. Will this improve the game and make fiddly things you have to do quicker? Yes. Do you have to use this if you dont want to? Hell no.GeneralTwinkle said:This is just dumb, I don't want to shout at the tv then hear my character yell it again. And talking to your follower with "Ally, attack" sounds like you're talking to a robot, not a companion.
And even then, I'm sure they could find some better way to implement kinect more then just a microphone.
I don't recall that happening with end war, that worked pretty well. It was just with normal headsets, no 200$ rip off.
I've played 150 hours so far, and I'm *still* not done with it. To each his own, Stilt, some of us are still playing and actually enjoying it, believe it or not.Stilt said:Are you really? You must be on the slow grind, i got sick of that game after about 30 hoursJove said:Probably the most idiotic comment I have ever heard this year. Congratulations, this was no easy feat.Stilt said:No one is playing skyrim anymore anyway
I don't think anyone would want to spend 200 dollars to shout at their tv, but because microsoft wants more money they're shoving the kinect in your face yelling "BUY ME!"Hunter65416 said:It can be done but not as easily as it can be with just one standard mic, also MS probably wouldnt want people doing that because firstly they want people to buy the kinectGeneralTwinkle said:Hunter65416 said:Zenimax/Bethesda dont have any stake in the kinect, No matter how many kinect owners hook up their kinect with skyrim bethesda wont make a cent, With a generic mic (especially most of the xbox branded ones) the quality is absoloute garbage and would show up the feature badly, it'd likley work fine with high quality mics but some people are stupid and will immediatly get on the internet and go "wahhhh bethesda why no speech work properly". with the kinect they have some form of standard and they can optimize much more efficntly, all normal headsets will give the xbox slightly differant feedback depending on the brand and they cant optimize for everythingGeneralTwinkle said:What about the crazy money grabbing? This is just obnoxious, forcing you to spend 200 dollars so you can shout at your tv. It's not so much the feature, even though I think they could've done something more interesting. It's just the ridiculous pushing of kinect kinect, kinect, trying to make you spend all your money. This could be done with the xbox headset, they did it for End war, and that was ages ago.Hunter65416 said:Good News: YOU DONT HAVE TO, People need to stop whineing, This is a rear instance when kinect actually makes a game better, especially with followers, I hate being in a dungeon where you suddenly come across a ceiling trap, you have to talk to your follower, tell them to wait, run across to the other side, turn off the trap, run back across to the start again and finally tell them to follow. Is this a good enough reason to buy kinect? No. Will this improve the game and make fiddly things you have to do quicker? Yes. Do you have to use this if you dont want to? Hell no.GeneralTwinkle said:This is just dumb, I don't want to shout at the tv then hear my character yell it again. And talking to your follower with "Ally, attack" sounds like you're talking to a robot, not a companion.
And even then, I'm sure they could find some better way to implement kinect more then just a microphone.
I don't recall that happening with end war, that worked pretty well. It was just with normal headsets, no 200$ rip off.
Oh come on, they'd be able to do it easily. And doesn't them cutting of features for everyone else annoy you at all?
and secondly because people use their mic to talk with other people either in or out of game.. so your somewhat right about the cash-grabbing thing
It's nothing but a cash grabbing thing, there's nothing else to it
but its not really about bethesda, either way its a great feature if you have a kinect and your not really missing out on much if you dont
Yeah, a great feature, I get to shout at my tv. Sometimes it would help, but companions can generally tank the traps they set off, shouts are not used very often and if they are there's often one you switch to, and pressing LB is a lot quicker then saying it out loud.
And since when was it about bethesda? It's microsoft that are doing everything they can to sell kinect. Mass effect 3 was the same way. "The kinect lets me respond quickly". Is saying "Submachine gun!" faster, or is pressing Y?
It's this BS obnoxious moneygrabbing for stuff that's not innovative, not very helpful or immersive at all, could be done on a normal xbox headset, and indeed has before, but microsoft will no longer do that because they can milk you for 200 dollars instead.