Trans representation in gaming

[Wakey87]

Drawing within the lines rarely breeds creativity. Creativity is boldness. If people make sincere attempts, they will probably be fine. If they end up offending people, maybe they deserve to be punished instead of putting on a fa?ade of decency?

I live in a world where a comedy sketch with a pug gets you a criminal conviction, intent means nothing these days.

Elaborate.

You are right that boldness is the key to creativity. I just don't think today with the outrage culture the way it is, would allow it. look at GTA they created it's own contraversey back in the 90's because that what got you noticed, today I fear they would of been shut down before they were off the ground.

The same with Count Dankula with the nazi pug video, it was an edgey joke that ended with a ciminal conviction. I don't think if Eminem started his career today with lines like "hate faggots - the answers yes' he would of been around that long. Which I beleive would of been ashame.

No one should be above criticism.

 

[Saelune]

Drawing within the lines rarely breeds creativity. Creativity is boldness. If people make sincere attempts, they will probably be fine. If they end up offending people, maybe they deserve to be punished instead of putting on a fa?ade of decency?

I live in a world where a comedy sketch with a pug gets you a criminal conviction, intent means nothing these days.

Elaborate.

You are right that boldness is the key to creativity. I just don't think today with the outrage culture the way it is, would allow it. look at GTA they created it's own contraversey back in the 90's because that what got you noticed, today I fear they would of been shut down before they were off the ground.

The same with Count Dankula with the nazi pug video, it was an edgey joke that ended with a ciminal conviction. I don't think if Eminem started his career today with lines like "hate faggots - the answers yes' he would of been around that long. Which I beleive would of been ashame.

No one should be above criticism.

Oh right, the guy who after making 'a simple joke' went on to support and join a right-wing party heavily associated with Nazis and general white supremacy.

There is a difference between making a poor representation of LGBT people, versus making a poor representation of LGBT people, then joining an anti-LGBT organization.

 

[Wakey87]

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He joined UKIP, which is more right than conservatives yes but still to the left of the republican party in America. But yeah 'far right' sound much worse lol

He did so happen to be a communist when he was young and even got the hammer and sickle tattooed on his chest, so yeah I guess he used to be Far-Left.

 

[Wakey87]

Oh right, the guy who after making 'a simple joke' went on to support and join a right-wing party heavily associated with Nazis and general white supremacy.

That isnot what UKIP stand for, your either thinking of the BNP or are lumping all right wing parties in the same boat.

 

[Saelune]

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He joined UKIP, which is more right than conservatives yes but still to the left of the republican party in America. But yeah 'far right' sound much worse lol

He did so happen to be a communist when he was young and even got the hammer and sickle tattooed on his chest, so yeah I guess he used to be Far-Left.

The US Republican Party is so far right, that you can be less right-wing and racist than them and still be super right-wing and racist.


If he wanted to prove he was only joking, he did basically the opposite of what he should do.

People change. I don't have the same views I did 2, 5, 10+ years ago. If he used to not be terrible, well he is terrible now.

 

[Wakey87]

If he wanted to prove he was only joking, he did basically the opposite of what he should do.

The two are not relatable, that is why you are getting the wrong image.
Ukip are nothing more than euro sceptical conservatives, thats it.

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If he used to not be terrible, well he is terrible now.

Conversations like this realy tick me off, Like the left can do no harm but the right are monsters.
Right now we have a Nationalist party running Scotland under the guise of a Far-Left party and a shadow cabinet that are socalists. We literaly have National Socialists on the left in the UK.

 

[Erttheking]

The idea that chromosomes decide gender is even more absurd

Yep, I'm done here. This is more virtue signaling than actual scientific evidence.
People are free to beleive what they want, if you beleive your a women/man I'm not going tell you your wrong, infact I'll stand with you with that fact. But legaly changing an official document to falsify your genetics is where I draw the line.

But maybe I'm wrong and you are much more progessive than me, and hell I don't know in a few years instead of laughing at people like 'Woah Vicky' we will actualy reconise that maybe this white girl really is black and doesn't just feel like one.

You mean the scientific evidence that people have pointed out that the brains of trans people are different from the brains of cis people? Also the fact that gender is social and sex is biological and the two aren't interchangeable?

Yeah, here's an idea, you got any peer reviewed studies that disprove the ideas behind transgendered people? I bet you don't.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Can't say I didn't warn you.

There was a good discussion about transgender representation in gaming, but that was lost a while ago.

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