Vegan_Doodler said:
"This is a horrible plan. No part of it makes chronological sense, it involves 3 simultaneous and needlesly complicated plans to do things that have no real meaning."
Of course its needlessly complicated otherwise it wouldn't be (theoretically) fun, It's like saying inception would have been better if they had gone with the simple plan and just beaten and threatened the guy and then just sat on a plane in awkward silence for 2 hours. I don't understand what you mean by "no real meaning", so they could win the war, simple as.
"The screenwriters never put any thought into them, or into their interpretation of Megatron as a character."
True, I completely agree with this but, unintentional or not though (I at least think it's a good plan), and yeah I was pissed that Megatron spent three films being someone's ***** to varying degrease.
"Flawed plans are kind of a staple of movie villans"
Flawed plans are a staple of every story in every genre (except for Watchmen) otherwise how would the heroes win?
"The way they planned to execute phase 3 makes no sense and would have killed EVERYONE. You can't just bring a celestial body halfway across the galaxy into our solar system and pretend nothing's going to happen. With Cybertron being as big as it is, it would have collided with Earth within a few days, destroying all life on our planet (including their entire slave labor force). When the portal shut down, it cut off part of cybertron, meaning that even if they had succeeded at that point, all life on Earth would STILL be destroyed by that huge chunk colliding with Chicago. They could then return to their stupid 4/5 of a planet."
To be fair Transformers as a concept makes very little sense anyway (Why get to the point where you destroy your own planet, why have your final battle relay on a backwater planet, when transformers scan a vhiecal how do they produce glass plastic and leather) and I've seen other Sci-fi stories being called brilliant for more blatant screwing with the laws of physics than this
"And why did all this necessitate moving to Chicago? Why did they attack and start blowing things up? Every nation already signed over all their rights and submitted to Emperor Megatron. At that point they could have just stationed some occupying forces, no big deal. And why did Cybertron have to come to Earth anyways? Wouldn't it just be easier to send starscream to Cybertron with 4 or so of those cores, then teleport all the humans to Cybertron instantly? You could even send your troops back and forth faster."
This I completely agree with, it just doesn't make sense, also why did the Autobots concentrate there army of FIVE robots where the Deceptacons had an entire fleet of battle ships, I assume they could have still stopped the space bridge by destroying the others around the world, that where only guarded by two Deceptacons.
"Finally, one unrelated question: Am I the only one a little suprised that the Autobots don't care at all about any of the things they say they do? I mean, this IS Michael Bay we're discussing, but still. Nobody ever mourns an Autobot dying, even if they're a main character with a face and a name and perhaps even some screen time. Optimus doesn't care at all about any of his subordinates or their conditions. And finally, why did they not bat an eyelash when they completely destroy Cybertron? Sure it's a desolate wasteland, but it's still their old home. You can tell me "Earth is their new home" all you want, it doesn't change the fact that no planet ever fully replaces your old one. We humans have a massive boner for the Earth, no way would we watch it get destroyed the way Cybertron was without so much as a comment. They pretty much imploded it, scattering space debris all over their old system. No worries?"
I can answer this in two words, bad writers.
