Transgender Q & A
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Woah.. okay, litmus test to see if I am you and vice-versa:Jayemsal said:
Are you a transgendered film-making writer-director whose best friends are a pyromaniacal ninja and a crazy gunsmith metalhead? If so, we should start worrying. If not, than we can simmer down.
But seriously, yeah I'm kinda in the same camp in terms of dress. The more stylish stuff just isn't well-suited for the weather.
Yeah, I have a question. What is the general thought process about getting that final genital operation? I know there are many transsexuals that have everything changed except for the genitalia (there is a huge genre of porn like this commonly known as "Shemales") and I have to wonder the reason for this. Is it due to discomfort or is that one operation hugely expensive or what?
Part of the reason why there's some anxiety is because of the quality and cost of that operation. Here in the US we've mostly got cheap-asses that practice an old technique that doesn't look the best, doesn't self-lubricate, and loses sensation due to the crudeness of the operation. That is changing, but slowly, and like any surgery the good ones cost an obscene amount of money.BathorysGraveland said:
Not yet. Need the money, and the right doctor. If I'm going to do it I may as well get the most out of it. I'm avoiding the cheapasses that use the old technique.bioshockedcriticjrr said:
I think the best sociological, biological, and neurological science suggests that "gender" is a social construct tied to observable physical biology.tarantula said:
I have a question for any transpeople here, specifically male-to-female transwomen (although that seems to be the majority here anyway!): Do you think your previous social experience as a man, and your experience of gender transition, has given you a perspective that sets you apart from women who were born physically female and experienced from birth the influence of their observable femininity?
"Do you think your previous social experience as a man, and your experience of gender transition, has given you a perspective that sets you apart."
What we can testify to better than anyone else, is the reality of sexism in even the most enlightened societies, that the level of respect and deference seen in both professional and private spheres is tightly correlated with perceived gender. MtoFs "become less" in every respect. It's still worth it, I'd never go back, even though I work harder for less pay, and often watch in wry amusement as an idiot's mumblings are taken as gospel, or while my ideas are attributed to the guy I had to lead by the nose to them.
Bear in mind, I am talking about people who entirely pass, whose current coworkers have known them only in their true gender, professionals whose work is just as good, whose experience and wisdom has only increased, but who suddenly find that they cannot speak more than a handful of words in a meeting without being interrupted. Cisgirls, if you've ever wondered if maybe you were just being "oversensitive", if you've questioned your capabilities, if you've wondered if your male coworker deserved the promotion you expected, I'm here to tell you that the sexism you felt is real and it's blatant.
FtoMs have reported the reverse, shocked by the sudden granting of respect as they finally appeared as their true selves.
What we can testify to better than anyone else, is the reality of sexism in even the most enlightened societies, that the level of respect and deference seen in both professional and private spheres is tightly correlated with perceived gender. MtoFs "become less" in every respect. It's still worth it, I'd never go back, even though I work harder for less pay, and often watch in wry amusement as an idiot's mumblings are taken as gospel, or while my ideas are attributed to the guy I had to lead by the nose to them.
Bear in mind, I am talking about people who entirely pass, whose current coworkers have known them only in their true gender, professionals whose work is just as good, whose experience and wisdom has only increased, but who suddenly find that they cannot speak more than a handful of words in a meeting without being interrupted. Cisgirls, if you've ever wondered if maybe you were just being "oversensitive", if you've questioned your capabilities, if you've wondered if your male coworker deserved the promotion you expected, I'm here to tell you that the sexism you felt is real and it's blatant.
FtoMs have reported the reverse, shocked by the sudden granting of respect as they finally appeared as their true selves.
Your argument is untenable. Being transgender has to do with the brain chemistry and brain anatomy concerning gender; masculinity and femininity. Being African American has more to do with contextualizing our position in American history than our physiology (Our physiology is only significant because American culture/history deemed it so). Or to put it simply: one is nature, the other is nurture.Big hat Matt said:
Penguins are pink on the inside... I've seen the remains of a few Fairy Penguins that feral cats have gotten at.Rawne1980 said:
Also seen a sea lion kill a cat and a great white shark kill a seal.
*wipes away tear*
Nature is so beautfil, man.
Question I suppose, what do/can you do about your voice? Like, do you have to train yourself to start sounding like the gender you are transitioning into or? And is that hard? I mean if this is offensive or whatever, sorry, but I'm just thinking it would be kind of odd to look and feel like a girl but still sound like a guy or vice versa.
For FtM transsexuals it is mostly not that hard, since because of testosterone they will go through male puberty and their voice will change accordingly.Sandjube said:
But if your a MtF trans it is a lot more difficult, since once you had your voice break, it will not go back just through hormones. So yes, you either have to train your voice to sound feminine or have to live with sounding male. It's a big problem for a lot of trans women I know, which is really sad since some of them look great but their voice doesn't really fit.
I myself trained my voice. It is quite difficult and in the beginning speaking with a female voice was really hard and strained my vocal chords a lot. But after a few months now, I have no more real difficulties and sound perfectly female.
No problemSandjube said:
I'm not post-op, but since no one has replied to you yet, I though I might answer it.Flutterknight said:
1. So far it's been about a year. Had my coming out in Nov 2011, went to a therapist in the beginning of 2012 and started hormone therapy mid 2012. And if everything goes well, I will have the op in about a year.
AS for the costs: I guess I'm really lucky to live in Germany, where we have universal health care. Therefore therapy and hormone prescriptions aren't that big of a problem. However I did have to pay for laser hair removal and my name change, which cost me a lot.
I don't really want to settle on a specific value, since that can vary a lot. Especially if you live in the US e.g. and have to pay for it all by yourself. But no matter what, it will probably cost you a lot, especially the op. If you can't really afford much, try to at least start hormone therapy (e.g. for MtF: testosterone-blockers and estrogen, for FtM: I think only testosterone (?)). You can probalby find the costs of this for your country online.
2. There are so called "standarts of threatment" in this country, which state that you have to go to a psychologist prior to receiving any kind of threatment. So I did that and after about half a year of therapy sessions I asked for a medical certificate with which I could see an endocrinologist which gave me the hormone prescriptions.
But what I suggest anyone should start with (even if they have no money at all for threatment) to just start living in the gender they feel comfortable with. For MtF for example: Start buying new clothes, grow your hair out, use make-up, learn how to move, speak, behave more femininely (if you want, I'm sort of a tomboy
). It doesn't take much, but it makes a really big difference (especially dressing differently) and is a great start. And when people start to see you as your true gender, you will feel a lot better already.And then probably try to find out how you can start hormone therapy, how much it will cost you, what doctors you can see, what you will need for it. You can find a lot of this information online.
Yeah, that's my take on this. I only speak from personal experience and anybody else could tell you something entirely different. It really differs from person to person and depending on where you live.
But this worked for me pretty great.
Sure.Cry Wolf said:
I would show you how I sound now, but I don't really want to post stuff from me here.
So instead:
In this video she even shows how her voice sounded before, which is really funny (I sometimes like doing this myself and scare the shit out of my friends).
This gal has a lot of explanations and training video on her channel, which helped me a lot with my own voice training.