Treyarch Used Modern Warfare 2 as Benchmark for Black Ops

[maddawg IAJI]

Considering that the words 'Call of Duty' are in the name, they were basically guaranteed a financial and critical success before they even had the basic plot written down.

 

[captaincabbage]

Are you sure they didn't use Modern warfare as a diving board instead?

This is what happened, and it illustrates best what they did.

Not that BO (body odor?) is a bad game, but something about it just didn't feel as good as MW2. The whole game felt like it was tripping over its own two feet, constantly stopping to show me something or do something. It got to the point where all I wanted to do was shoot, not have the game take most of the control away from me AGAIN and tell me to plant bombs or knock over barrels.

Multiplayer? Same as MW2.

Yeah I kinda figured that out on my own, thanks. ;P

You're right tho, there was something about BlOps that just didn't work. It had a great setting, great guns, alright story and a great game engine, but it just kinda fell apart.

I can't stand the multiplayer either tho. There's just so many things wrong with ut. Don't bother reading if you don't really care, I'm just venting.

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I'd also go as far to say that the multiplayer is inferior. Whilst there are many advancements to the multiplayer (many more than singleplayer), like CoD points (which also seem to be the BEST THING EVAR), there were so many places where it just fell short.
The maps weren't as interesting, save for Havana or Nuketown, and I never ended up playing any other maps because I just didn't like them.
Whilst it is excellent having CoD points and they make the game much more interesting, as well as fan and addictive, there feels like theres no real point once you've bought the guns you want and got the classes you like all sorted out, which took me all of one afternoon of my first try at online multiplayer.
The biggest let down is easily in the splitscreen department. It's more of a disappointment than anything else, considering all the cool things they did include for splitscreen.
For example, online splitscreen is possibly the greatest thing to happen to CoD, but the fact that you can't choose another profile to play as, or that you can't make a custom profile like you could for splitscreen games on MW2 just irks me and takes away all the possible fun you could have had levelling up with your friends.
Which brings me to my point on profiles. In MW2 you could have four players playing splitscreen together with their own profiles on the same game, so we all had our own persistant characters to level up and earn new guns for. Now with BlOps, they've done away with that completely, leaving us with more of an experience where player 1 plays whilst player 2 just kinda tags along, copying the killstreaks, classes and level stat of player 1.
It ruins the whole point of playing splitscreen in CoD.

On top of this mediocre game, the developers have the balls to market five maps to us at the price of $20AUD!
It all adds up to just one big fat disappointing game that's a lot worse than it could have been. It especially irks me since me and my friends are all big CoD fans who always loved getting together for a night of food, drink and playing CoD splitscreen, which was always awesome.

Actually, when I said this is what happened, I meant what you originally said about the diving board. That filled up every thought I've had about Black Ops in a nice, tight nutshell.

You're right about the multi, though. I read the whole wall, and it's all true. 2010 was kind of a crappy year for gaming, too, especially shooters.

XD sorry, I guess I took it the wrong way. ;P

Yeah,I didn't really play anything shooter0wise in 2010, aside from RDR, which still rocks tits.
I was just a big shame, since I'd never bought a CoD before and I was hoping BlOps would be the one to intorduce me. It was like a handshake covered in spit.
I'm just looking forward to Killzone 3, since I was addicted to the previous game's multiplayer.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

If MW2 was the target they were aiming for, I'd say they failed rather spectacularly. Despite MW2's obvious balance problems, it's several magnitudes better than Black Ops.

 

[Rednog]

Yea, I don't see how MW2 was a benchmark for BOps when, in my opinion, BOps is a poorer game.
In MW2's multiplayer I could pretty much use any gun and actually get a positive K/D ratio (though probably not snipers since I'm not patient). Speaking of guns, why is the selection in BOps so small? How do you end up making less guns than the previous installment? And tack onto that the poorest collection of secondary weapons, seriously it's like they jumped back to MW1 and tossed in a crossbow and ballistic knife.

People whine about MW2 killstreaks being overpowered but looking at them they are insanely similar for about half of them. The only real difference is the AC130/Chopper gunner and the nuke. While yes the nuke is the be all end game, I really don't see how it is that unbalanced, if you have a guy going 25 and 0 odds are that his team is winning. AC130/Chopper gunner vs the Chopper gunner/ Gunship the biggest difference here to me ends up being map design, the reason MW2's seem stronger is because the maps are more open to the sky and thus these things shred people, whereas BOps has a ton more cover and the patrol of the chopper can be a bit wonky when you use the gunner. The rest of them really aren't that different.

 

[Mooshi-Q]

If MW2 was the target they were aiming for, I'd say they failed rather spectacularly. Despite MW2's obvious balance problems, it's several magnitudes better than Black Ops.

I don't think I could have summed it up any better.

 

[Shadowtek]

What are you guys talking about? You mean Call Of Duty: Black Ops has been released? Whoa, Im not finished playing the beta yet. There are SO MANY BUGS to be worked out I didnt think that they were able to release it yet. WOW, This should be one awesome game now that its out and they can focus all their attention on fixing last minute bugs. At least their not going to ignore the game or the community and divert their minds to "Map Packs" or "sequels" yet. At last, we should have a game worth playing.

http://forums.vgrequirements.info/showthread.php?p=24503#post24503
Some useful information.

 

[captaincabbage]

Are you sure they didn't use Modern warfare as a diving board instead?

This game has WORSE forshadowing, worse plot, not really as good as it sounds multiplayer and fails to understand what the title means (you could say it's called Black Ops because it's meant to be like an espionage themed action movie, but very little of the game feels like that, Modern Warfare 2 felt more like it had espionage in it).

Then again, direction you go from a diving board is down, so maybe that is an appropriate metaphor.

Uuh, yeah, that's what I was implying in the first place. o_o

 

[Smooth Operator]

"source of inspiration" - that is a good one
I will definitely use that line next time I copy paste someone elses work.

 

[Thunderhorse31]

Of course, how much of that is actually down to Treyarch's hard work, and how is down to the power of the Call of Duty brand, is a point that you could debate for days.

Really? Seems pretty obvious; MW2 will sell millions even with all the problems at IW.

 

[Zannah]

You'd think the final product would at least reach half the quality of the benchmark, wouldn't you?

 

[captaincabbage]

Are you sure they didn't use Modern warfare as a diving board instead?

This game has WORSE forshadowing, worse plot, not really as good as it sounds multiplayer and fails to understand what the title means (you could say it's called Black Ops because it's meant to be like an espionage themed action movie, but very little of the game feels like that, Modern Warfare 2 felt more like it had espionage in it).

Then again, direction you go from a diving board is down, so maybe that is an appropriate metaphor.

Uuh, yeah, that's what I was implying in the first place. o_o

Okay, it's just that I've heard some rather awkward metaphors used seriously.

Was it awkward? I seemed pretty straight-forward to me.

 

[Tiswas]

Making a game based on overhyped excrement never is a good idea.

 

[DSK-]

Black Ops is just an unfinished game. Even if you play the game on PC with the lowest possible settings you will still get bad FPS/performance online. It feels like I'm playing the game on a Pentium 3.

I also like the way that they made sniper rifles less useful. Why use these when you can burst fire a FAMAS, Galil or AUG across the map and not have to worry about the ADS random bullet spread if you shoot 'too early'.

In all honesty, I hate this game. I don't enjoy it at all. I want to like it, but it's just boilerplate for me.

 

[Dogstile]

Oh they ruined sniping.
And one issue with MW2 was camping, howdo they tackle the issue ? Give them cameras, radar scramblers, and other crp to help them camp.

How did they ruin sniping exactly? I can still do it fine. Also, hacker. Use it, jeez