Twitch Bans Streaming of "Adults Only" Games - Update

[UncleThursday]

So a bunch of games which you probably wouldn't get away with streaming anyway due to the nudity are now straight up banned.

Why wouldnt i get away with streaming such games?

Showing nudity on stream is already against the rules, and mods sometimes shut down streams that don't even go that far.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FlwIWQSuwrE
This stream of the censored version of Sakura Spirit has a mod show up towards the end who has them stop streaming it.

Edit: http://www.twitch.tv/p/rules-of-conduct
Look under sexual content. I don't believe that's new.

Hasn't stopped people from streaming The Witcher 3, including myself. There's nudity in that game in the first few minutes. There's also nudity in other parts that aren't the various sex scenes able to be initiated (one quest you come upon a succubus who is naked, with no warning she'll be naked before you get to her).

Yeah, you probably would be fine here. That's not violating any of their rules.

Technically, under these rating rules, one could stream The Witcher 3 from inside one of the various brothels, paying for the prostitutes, and doing nothing but the sex scenes with them until their coin ran out... because the game is rated M in the US. Certain admins might shut the streams down, granted, but under the M rated rule, it's not against the rules. It might be against the sexual content rule, but some of the sex scenes are part of quests, thus part of the experience of the game.

No, you could not do this at all. Just hanging out in the brothel would not be only staying there long enough to progress.

Besides, the sex scenes are barely more graphic than those in Mass Effect. They just show some boob, where Mass Effect only showed some bare ass. They last about as long, too.

And if all you were doing was going through mass effect sex scenes you would probably still get your stream shut down.

The reality is that Twitch is trying to say they're banning the streaming of Hatred, without just coming out and saying they're banning the streaming of Hatred. By going with the "no AO games allowed" method, they effectively ban the game, without having to say they're banning the game, explicitly.

We wouldn't want them to have to put actual age gates on those streams listed as mature audiences only; right? Might take some actual work on their end... and we wouldn't want that to happen.

Maybe this site could just do some half decent age verification and we could have an adults only board. Why is no one crying out about how they are not allowed to post gay sheep man porn on the Escapist? How dare they silence us?!? ESCAPIST, ASK NOT FOR WHOM THE GAY SHEEP MAN CUMS, HE CUMS FOR YOU!

Your last hyperbole ridden point isn't exactly pertinent, because of pornograhpic laws in the US and other countries. Since The Escapist is not listed as an adult site, and does not require age verification, nor does it require the age versification of any models on its site (like porn sites do), that sort of content is not allowed on here.

As for Twitch... well, I'd be more willing to deal with their decisions if they were more prone to actually enforce the rules they already have in place. Including their broadcaster rules regarding proper dress, etc. In the very thread they announced this particular change about the ratings, people were posting up pics of female streamers who still use the "boobs/cleavage brings viewers" method of streaming. This included one streamer who wrote on her breasts, in a very low cut and revealing shirt, while she took up 9/10 of her stream screen and the game she was playing took up less than 1/10 of the screen (the rest being graphics about donations and subs and such). But, because she brings in ad revenue and sub revenue, she (and others who do similar) has not been subjected to the "don't dress overly sexually" rule. Though I'm sure any dudes being topless would be subjected to said rule, unless they were popular enough to be bringing in a lot of ad and subscriber revenue. As with many sites that institute certain rules, they really will only apply to those who aren't helping that site make money on a consistent basis.

It's been a common complaint on the site that attractive women, wearing low cut tops, have been given partner status without ever reaching the requirements for said status -- that other not as attractive or more modestly dressed women, and all males, need to reach to be given partner status. Mostly because even if they can't retain the veiwers needed (500 consistent viewers, and stream 3 days a week), they'll get enough people popping in to look at their cleavage over the course of the stream to make it worth Twitch's time to circumvent their otherwise hard to achieve rules for partnering with them... because it keeps those streamers coming back, while reinforcing the "boobs/cleavage make me money" thought.

And those pics kept getting posted because Twitch was deleting the posts showing they weren't enforcing their own rules rather than comment on them.

What, so Hatred isn't okay but Mortal Kombat X is fine? Who put Twitch in charge of what's alright to watch? What about... Dante's inferno? I think that has a bunch of breasts and demon babies, is that allowed?

Is there an alternative streaming site that lets you stream Huniepop or Hatred if you feel like it?

Hitbox allows the streaming of those games, provided the stream is set to "mature content", or whatever they use as similar.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Your last hyperbole ridden point isn't exactly pertinent, because of pornograhpic laws in the US and other countries. Since The Escapist is not listed as an adult site, and does not require age verification, nor does it require the age versification of any models on its site (like porn sites do), that sort of content is not allowed on here.

I doubt Tumblr is listed as such, or many other sites. The Escapist could still create an adults only section of the site where I could at the very least post my erotic gay sheep man fics. Oh, and the site does require age verification for the forums in general anyway. You have to be over 13.

As for Twitch... well, I'd be more willing to deal with their decisions if they were more prone to actually enforce the rules they already have in place. Including their broadcaster rules regarding proper dress, etc. In the very thread they announced this particular change about the ratings, people were posting up pics of female streamers who still use the "boobs/cleavage brings viewers" method of streaming. This included one streamer who wrote on her breasts, in a very low cut and revealing shirt, while she took up 9/10 of her stream screen and the game she was playing took up less than 1/10 of the screen (the rest being graphics about donations and subs and such). But, because she brings in ad revenue and sub revenue, she (and others who do similar) has not been subjected to the "don't dress overly sexually" rule. Though I'm sure any dudes being topless would be subjected to said rule, unless they were popular enough to be bringing in a lot of ad and subscriber revenue. As with many sites that institute certain rules, they really will only apply to those who aren't helping that site make money on a consistent basis.

Those channels already have an established audience. Twitch would rather not deal with that I guess. Irrelevant too, considering that Twitch failing to enforce some rules has nothing to do with whether or not this rule is reasonable or Twitch is justified in adding it. I bet I could find porn on YouTube, but that has nothing to do with whether they should let people post videos of people dying on camera.

And you already had ten tenths. There is no more left for advertisements and banners.

Finally, fun fact, tons of dudes streamed shirtless. That was Jaximus's entire shtick, and I know nientonsoh occasionally did too. Still, these rules weren't made up due to complaints about nientonsoh's pasty torso, they were made up because everyone constantly complained about female streamers.

It's been a common complaint on the site that attractive women, wearing low cut tops, have been given partner status without ever reaching the requirements for said status -- that other not as attractive or more modestly dressed women, and all males, need to reach to be given partner status. Mostly because even if they can't retain the veiwers needed (500 consistent viewers, and stream 3 days a week), they'll get enough people popping in to look at their cleavage over the course of the stream to make it worth Twitch's time to circumstances cumvent their otherwise hard to achieve rules for partnering with them... because it keeps those streamers coming back, while reinforcing the "boobs/cleavage make me money" thought.

Firstly, I really question the "all males" part of that, because I can point to numerous popular male streamers who made shirtless streaming their thing. And secondly, I have no idea what that has to do with banning streams of AO games.

Who put Twitch in charge of what's alright to watch?

I believe Twitch put Twitch in charge of what's alright to watch, on Twitch that is. I honestly don't know what other way of doing things you were expecting.

 

[blackrave]

Actually no, there is no whitewashing. At all. I just copy over something i wrote in another forum regarding that same accusation:

" But to be fair its not really a sanitisation of history here in germany. Its a bit more complex. On the whole the education about the Nazi Time is really thorough. Even today, nearly 75 years after the war, you can still pretty much see daily documentations on TV about the evils of the third reich or the holocaust. In school its mandatory learning material for all.
The problem is that the swatiska flag is illegal because it is an "verfassungsfeindliches Symbol" ( symbol representing an enemy of the constitution). It can be displayed in books or movies but not in games. Thats because there is a law that says the flag may only be displayed in a cultural historical meaning. According to the german law, books are cultural products, movies are cultural products, games are NOT. Games are classified as toys, entertainment without cultural merit. Thats why the display of Nazi symbolism is forbbiden in video games in germany.
There were a lot of initiatives over the years to try and change that law to include games as a cultural product but no luck up until now.
Just wanted to clarify WHY those flags are banned in games in germany and because i hear the "whitewashing history" argument a lot, when its really pretty much the exact opposite reason. "

Is it only for swastika that nazis used, or other swastika is banned too
(I would have named them left&right, but I have no idea how to figure out which one is left and which one is right)

Besides as far as I know swastika is replaced with iron cross in Germany.
To be honest I think it's a win
Iron cross is badass, while swastika is anything but.