Two League of Legends "Pros" Banned for Being Horrible

Arcane Azmadi

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Therumancer said:
I have mixed opinions.

On one hand this is good, on the other hand this is done entirely by an automated system apparently. The justification for these guys getting banned is based on the percentage of complaints/reports filed rather than specific incidents and things they did.

The problem with automated systems is that they are easily abused, we've already had plenty of horror stories about people being locked out of their accounts due to automated systems, after having done very little. I myself had a problem (albiet one that never went that far) when I noticed my Gamer Rep on XBL dropping playing online fighting games because half the time I'd beat someone they would report me for unsportsmanlike conduct or something else, a routine behavior with a lot of that community. I wound up stopping playing fighting games over XBL as a result.

See, in a case like this when it comes to dominant players you have to ask, how many people were complaining because they actually did something, or because they just didn't like the player or losing to them.

To me, I'd rather hear that someone working for the company descended with the mighty banhammer after personally catching them saying "X, X, and Y" to other players, than hearing "oh well, the guy had complaints in 29% of his matches" which from my own experience could just be people throwing tantrums similar to what I've run into (and I'm not even good at fighting games, god forbid what it's like for some of the pros in MOBA games and such).

The way this sounds, unless they present some actual proof, I'd actually be considering a lawsuit if it was costing me money via tournament participation, and accuse the company of trying to load the tourney.

In a more general sense, when I briefly returned to WoW to try "Pandas" (which was meh) I had to go through an act of congress to re-activate my account due to Blizzard's automated system having shut it down for cheating... when it was an inactive account (and was intact as far as I could tell when I actually got in). I've also been threatened by automated systems detecting improper behavior with other online games I wasn't even playing or didn't even have installed (and even re-installed them to check it out and found nada).

In short, I put absolutly no faith in any kind of automated "recognition" software, and even less faith in any kind of impersonal system by which one player can "report" another for any reason and have it go into some kind of meaningful record without human involvement. IMO these companies need to actually hire some bloody people, and stop trying to cut corners by automating everything. Especially Blizzard... really, there is no excuse for some of the crap I've gotten from them (always bureaucratic stuff, not user complaints). "Your account has been locked out due to improper behavior" Rly? My account that hasn't been on for 2 years was trying to sell gold? The one that has all of it's gold and items intact? I've been detected trying to sell my Diablo 3 account, the one with my mighty Level 17 Wizard (since I wound up not caring much for the game)... I'm sure people were lining up by the thousands for that one. :)
This is simply incorrect. You wrote a very long and detailed post here, so it's pretty sad that I have to tell people to disregard everything you just said.

Since these were publicised, high-profile cases and since it was about banning the PLAYERS not just their accounts (as most pro players have several accounts anyway) Riot obviously assessed the cases personally before making their rulings. That's really all there is to it- you say their banning was the result of a completely automated system, but it wasn't. The end.
 

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I don't know anything about LoL. But out of curiosity, was it made clear in advance that this behaviour can get you banned?
 

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Big applause to Riot Games. Someone needed to start sniping out these people and amping up dat Tribunal.
The community reeks; let's get to work!
 

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hellflame said:
BiH-Kira said:
You get reported in LoL for saying "gg" at the end of the match if you dominated the game.
in all fairness "gg" isn't a bad thing. but most people tend to put "gg easy"

which ALOT of people find offensive, and most of the "gg easy" don't even understand why they get reported in 1st place,because calling someone a noob can't possible piss them off
^Truth. People don't ban for 'gg' (as opposed to gg-easy), no matter what the context (albeit very VERY extreme situations, but these are far and few inbetween)
 

Darks63

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Maybe im not fully grasping lol and what these guy do in it but cant they just make new accounts and go back to playing?
 

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I have to admit that I like this news. Part of the reason I like Riot is that they are actually doing something about the horrible community, I used to play LoL near daily but now I can hardly bring myself to play it due to how most people act in game.

I am not innocent, I try to avoid raging but sometimes I have played too much LoL and haven't had the break I need so I end up trolling assholes in one of my games every now and then. I feel bad afterward for the one or two guys on my team who didn't do anything but damn. Im learning that it's impossible to keep playing LoL for too long without breaks because you just get worn down by the awful community.
 

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Darks63 said:
Maybe im not fully grasping lol and what these guy do in it but cant they just make new accounts and go back to playing?
AFAIK they're banned from all the tournaments... including the important ones where teams show up rather then play over the internet and riot knows who these guys are so even if they have a new username they still can't participate lest they undergo plastic surgery and a name change.
 

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hellflame said:
Darks63 said:
Maybe im not fully grasping lol and what these guy do in it but cant they just make new accounts and go back to playing?
AFAIK they're banned from all the tournaments... including the important ones where teams show up rather then play over the internet and riot knows who these guys are so even if they have a new username they still can't participate lest they undergo plastic surgery and a name change.
ahh ok i thought it was just an account thing were they could bypass the ban by simply getting a new account the way hackers and exploiters do in mmos.
 

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Heh, I just realized this is a gamer's version of news.

I also realized I enjoy news like these. I mean, I don't like watching or talking about sports. But GAMING sports news are awesome.

I'll keep an eye on that issue; maybe I'll even catch a live match online or something (If that's possible).
 

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m19 said:
I don't know anything about LoL. But out of curiosity, was it made clear in advance that this behaviour can get you banned?
Yes. Not that they needed to... I mean... people should have the common sense to behave like decent people online, right ?
 

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Samanya said:
Yes. Not that they needed to... I mean... people should have the common sense to behave like decent people online, right ?
If the punishment is a long term ban that affects someone's income for being an as*hole. I'd say, yes, it needs to be clear in advance.
 

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m19 said:
Samanya said:
Yes. Not that they needed to... I mean... people should have the common sense to behave like decent people online, right ?
If the punishment is a long term ban that affects someone's income for being an as*hole. I'd say, yes, it needs to be clear in advance.
If I went to work and called everyone I didn't like a Such and Such, you can bet your ass I'd be escorted out of the building with walking papers in hand, and I probably wouldn't be able to get a job in the industry ever again.

Same concept here, if these retarded monkies (the LoL "pros", har) can't maintain professionalism in the trade that is earning their income, then they don't deserve to be there. Not a hard thing to grasp.
 

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It's only fair and a fitting example when "top players" aren't given a free pass. A lot of gamers act like being good at a game is all that counts in life, but acting like a decent person is optional. They ruin it for everyone else.

There's more than enough jerks in any online game that should be shown their place, good or not. If they earn money from it or have been playing for a long time, one should expect them to behave better, and judge them a little harsher than some kid.
 

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Ympulse said:
If I went to work and called everyone I didn't like a Such and Such, you can bet your ass I'd be escorted out of the building with walking papers in hand, and I probably wouldn't be able to get a job in the industry ever again.

Same concept here, if these retarded monkies (the LoL "pros", har) can't maintain professionalism in the trade that is earning their income, then they don't deserve to be there. Not a hard thing to grasp.
Well your line of work isn't the only one out there. In professional competitive sports it's not uncommon. In combat sports trash talk is even a sort of unofficial part of the job. Rules always need be clear in advance. I have no problem with it not being tolerated. But there need to be clear guide lines and a clear process. Especially here, where it has been common before, nothing should happen out of the blue because of "common sense" that wasn't there yesterday.