You've not met many long-term stoners have you? Either that or you're in denial.Cassita said:Nope.razer17 said:Psychoactive effects of pot CAN have long term mental effects.
I challenge you to find a single study that supports this claim.
No such study exists.
You go on buying into the government's fear campaign - they wouldn't want you to believe a harmless herb they don't tax could be beneficial, after all.
I was wrong....forgive meInterAirplay said:Wait, wtf? care to back that up?Mr Pantomime said:Also, Pot is actually more harmful than Cigarettes.
They are fungus, genetically and biochemically they are more similar to us than plants.Demented Teddy said:Mushrooms are just a vegetable aren't they?
Yes, I buy into the government fear campaign /sarcasm.Cassita said:Nope.razer17 said:Psychoactive effects of pot CAN have long term mental effects.
I challenge you to find a single study that supports this claim.
No such study exists.
You go on buying into the government's fear campaign - they wouldn't want you to believe a harmless herb they don't tax could be beneficial, after all.
You provide no evidence, thus I cannot believe your statement. Do you mean from THC poisoning? From the cancer caused be inhaling ash? Accidents while under the influence? From other drugs introduced through pot? From street gang and drug cartel actions motivated by the selling of pot? From adverse reactions to additives in the drug? Or even through secondary consequences caused by actions taken both sober and not?Cassita said:Funny, considering no one has ever died from pot.
Ever.
Oh wait, that's right, it's not taxed.
Go back to drinking and smoking, people, nothing to see here.
Funny, considering that studies have shown that if you smoke when below the age of 14, your brain becomes fucked up. Clinical studies of mice have shown the exact same thing when juvenile mice were stoned.Cassita said:Funny, considering no one has ever died from pot.
Ever.
Oh wait, that's right, it's not taxed.
Go back to drinking and smoking, people, nothing to see here.
You can OD on (or more precisely said, be poisoned by) any substance providing a high enough dose, by that argument water, oxygen, anything can kill you too, so it's not really very valid for a discussionasinann said:And pot might not have killed, but it's not all happy fun time good for you: you CAN OD on it but the amounts needed to OD on it are much like those of caffeine, so bloody high that you would have to concentrate it and inject the concentrated form directly into the body.
You're partially right and I did misspeak. On its own it has no long term physiological effects. For example heroin won't result in nerve damage the way long term cocaine or meth abuse will. As to the fatalities, a lot more people die from the aforementioned strychnine contamination (which does do very nasty things in the long term).Mackheath said:Sorry, but I object to that; my father was a hard user of heroin for a long time and it almost killed him several times. Apart from weight loss, it also made him pretty paranoid and made him claw at his skin. It also helped mess up his legs.Starke said:Heroin (by itself) is one of the only "hard drugs" that has no long term health repercussions from use.
I seriously doubt it is as low as you are thinking, but fair enough. Every area has a different rate.Now, Heroin is frequently laced with strychnine as a byproduct of shitty production techniques, and you can OD on it, but the actual death rate from heroin itself is pretty fuckin' low.
While you are correct that no scientific study has found long term health issues associated with Marijuana usage (Except for one, which I'm looking for now, done by an Ivy League school that claimed smoking tobacco AND Weed nearly tripled the chances of lung cancer when compared to just smoking tobacco), short term learning problems have been noted for over 30 years. Now, in an adult, who gives a shit: We've learned most of what we need to make it by in day to day situations.Cassita said:Nope.razer17 said:Psychoactive effects of pot CAN have long term mental effects.
I challenge you to find a single study that supports this claim.
No such study exists.
You go on buying into the government's fear campaign - they wouldn't want you to believe a harmless herb they don't tax could be beneficial, after all.
Wait, they dosed autistic children with marijuana? What the fuck? How do you even get that past a review board?AccursedTheory said:While you are correct that no scientific study has found long term health issues associated with Marijuana usage (Except for one, which I'm looking for now, done by an Ivy League school that claimed smoking tobacco AND Weed nearly tripled the chances of lung cancer when compared to just smoking tobacco), short term learning problems have been noted for over 30 years. Now, in an adult, who gives a shit: We've learned most of what we need to make it by in day to day situations.Cassita said:Nope.razer17 said:Psychoactive effects of pot CAN have long term mental effects.
I challenge you to find a single study that supports this claim.
No such study exists.
You go on buying into the government's fear campaign - they wouldn't want you to believe a harmless herb they don't tax could be beneficial, after all.
But in a 2 year old... Jesus. The kid is learning new things EVERYDAY. And it doesn't just apply to 'book learning.' Studies done a decade ago on the use of marijuana on autistic children showed a decrease in both book learning and social skills learning: basically, what little ability autistic children had to socialize was being lost. I can only speculate that it would do something similar to a normal child.
All the same, that's not really my concern. Mine is the fact that a yound child has been handed a lit stick of paper and leaves (You don't give 2 year olds fire/embers. That's stupid.), and the fact that children of that age have absolutely no concept of control. Yes, you may be able to control your (I use this to refer to any weed smoker who reads this, not any particular person) weed use and not wander around stoned 24/7, but this kid simply hasn't developed that part of her brain yet. She's going to treat weed like she treats candy (How well did you handle Halloween as a kid) as soon as she can use a lighter. And while weed use doesn't appear to be chemically habit forming, I'm pretty sure such a young child has a pretty good chance of getting a mental habit out of this.
Sorry to chim in, a study I saw found that Nicontin(as in they used the patch) Reduced the effect of down sydrome and Austism. Not that has anything to do with pot, its just I thought It was an interesting fact. Oh and I don't belive pot can reduce mental capicty but it can make it harder to learn and such and cause short term memory loss.AccursedTheory said:But in a 2 year old... Jesus. The kid is learning new things EVERYDAY. And it doesn't just apply to 'book learning.' Studies done a decade ago on the use of marijuana on autistic children showed a decrease in both book learning and social skills learning: basically, what little ability autistic children had to socialize was being lost. I can only speculate that it would do something similar to a normal child.
Did you block him by any chance?Cassita said:Better yet, let's call her an idiot! Yeah, that'll teach her! -_-Super Toast said:Let's just ban this idiot. She says the exact same thing on every forum.
'Idiot', ha. Where do I come up with these things?! -_-