Typical hate crime? EDIT

[Cerebreus]

A man dating a woman of a different race is alledgely beaten by members of that woman's race.

Here's the kicker: It was a white man who was said to have been beaten by black men for dating a black woman (who says she was harassed by some of those same blacks).

Here's the article:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/07/new.york.beating/index.html

Thoughts?

EDIT: I see more and more satire mentioned, but it's sad that I get the feeling it really is the case for the most part: discrimination against whites isn't that frowned upon compared to other instances of discrimination. Even if the story turns out to be false, the fact that their has been little outrage doesn?t bode well for race relations as a whole.

If a black pastor could get on national television and during a prayer insult an entire race by saying they have yet to "embrace what is right" (which also includes Obama's mother, who apparently hadn?t embraced what is right by that time) and there be very little public outcry, then what does that tell you?

A white man, even if he went through similar circumstances, would never have been allowed to say that about blacks and get away with it.

I'm not racist, but when I see examples of a double standard, it's discouraging to me.

 

[Aardvark]

He should've dated an asian girl, then he'd at least have the size advantage.

/me runs!

 

[Berethond]

I doubt they'll get charged with hate crime.
It's the sad truth.

 

[DannyBoy451]

A man dating a woman of a different race is alledgely beaten by members of that woman's race.

Here's the kicker: It was a white man who was said to have been beaten by black men for dating a black woman (who says she was harassed by some of those same blacks).

Here's the article:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/07/new.york.beating/index.html

Thoughts?

Black people can be racist too, is this meant to surprise me?

 

[LockHeart]

Well I disagree with the legal concept of a 'hate crime' anyway - an assault is an assault no matter what the reasons behind it are. Just lock the ignorant scumbags up for several years.

 

[Amnestic]

That depends. Was he beaten because he was White or was he beaten because of something he did?

Then again whatever the cause for the beating,

I doubt they'll get charged with hate crime.
It's the sad truth.

This is likely the end result.

 

[Mstrswrd]

This is a hate crime (from what I can tell). If the reason for an attack is race, religion, gender, creed, etc, that it is a hate crime, even if the attackers are black and the victim white. If the victim was black and the attackers Asian, it would be a hate crime. If the victims were Indian, and the attackers Native American, it would be a hate crime. If the attackers were white heterosexuels attacking a white homosexuel (or the other way around), it would be a hate crime.

 

[Frankydee]

I doubt they'll get charged with hate crime.
It's the sad truth.

Unfortunately I have to agree with this.

As the father stated is a bit of a double standard. I used to have to deal with this sort of thing in school when some girl who happened to be black would openly insult and provoke me. I'd retaliate with some sort of retort and she suddenly cries foul and I'm somehow labeled as being racist for trying to defend myself.

 

[johnzaku]

I too think the idea of a hate crime is a double standard, but it sucks that noone seems to be helping. They're right, if this had been a black teen beaten by a group of white guys, it would be in every newspaper across the country as a racial injustice or a horrible occurance.

 

[Xyphon]

A hate crime is when a perpetrator targets a person because of his or her race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, nationality, age, gender, or political affiliation. If they beat this man simply because he was a Caucasian and was dating a member of the African American race, it IS a hate crime. I've seen this happen many times. Spanish dating African American, Spanish dating Asian and so on and so forth. Every time a person got beat down for dating a member of the opposite race, whether it be a male or female, it was treated as a hate crime.

This should not be any different. The problem is, however, that they do not fully know if what the female or father are saying is true. They cannot make any charges until the assaulters are apprehended and the truth is revealed. The white male could very easily have provoked an attack on his person.

 

[cainx10a]

Blatant hate crime, he got beaten up simply because he was dating a girl of a different race. Both the girl, and himself were constantly under fire for their relationship, and the worst happenned. To be honest, I am racist (against white christians - and that hate is just getting stronger for reasons I am not going to discuss here), but when I saw that kid on the hospital bed, my train of thought completely changed. Hope he recovers fast, and both him and that girl can have a normal relationship again.

No one should go through what he went through. It's a hate crime.

 

[Cakes]

Guys, you're forgetting: It's only a hate crime if it's against a minority. Also, minorities can't be racist.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Blacks murder whites twice as often as whites murder blacks (this wasn't a murder, but I couldn't find stats on assaults). Things like this just aren't seen as a big deal usually. Just look at the Jena six case; if the races were reversed for that, Al Sharpton would have wanted the offenders decapitated.

I think this is a precursor to the rest of the thread. Statistics for this claim?

Either way, unless the full story isn't being told, this is a hate crime. Simple.

Guys, you're forgetting: It's only a hate crime if it's against a minority. Also, minorities can't be racist.

And you're not helping for Christ's sake. Why is it every time the concept of race comes up, the community turns ignorant?

[hr][HEADING=1]ULTRAJOE, I CHOOSE YOU!!!![/HEADING][hr]

 

[Spektre41]

Coming up at eleven, african-american man offended by the word "black hole"

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Almost Everything is a hate crime, is I kill someone because they stole my drugs or something, do I not hate them? But for purposes here, if he was beaten because of the interracial thing, then yes. But who knows really.

This world sucks.

 

[Cerebreus]

Blacks murder whites twice as often as whites murder blacks (this wasn't a murder, but I couldn't find stats on assaults). Things like this just aren't seen as a big deal usually. Just look at the Jena six case; if the races were reversed for that, Al Sharpton would have wanted the offenders decapitated.

I think this is a precursor to the rest of the thread. Statistics for this claim?

Either way, unless the full story isn't being told, this is a hate crime. Simple.

Guys, you're forgetting: It's only a hate crime if it's against a minority. Also, minorities can't be racist.

And you're not helping for Christ's sake. Why is it every time the concept of race comes up, the community turns ignorant?

[hr][HEADING=1]ULTRAJOE, I CHOOSE YOU!!!![/HEADING][hr]

I think The_AC was referencing this:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Some question it's veracity. Take it as you will.

As for Cakes' comment, I think he was being sarcastic.

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

A man dating a woman of a different race is alledgely beaten by members of that woman's race.

Here's the kicker: It was a white man who was said to have been beaten by black men for dating a black woman (who says she was harassed by some of those same blacks).

Here's the article:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/07/new.york.beating/index.html

Thoughts?

Black people can be racist too, is this meant to surprise me?

Black people can't be racists, they're a minority.
Joking, although my English teacher probably wasn't when [i/]She[/i] said that.

I doubt they'll get charged with hate crime.
It's the sad truth.

Nope, they shall be charged with self-defense and be viewed as heroes of the land.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

I think The_AC was referencing this:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Some question it's veracity. Take it as you will.

As for Cakes' comment, I think he was being sarcastic.

I'm aware of that, but the fact remains that it's not helping.

 

[RavingPenguin]

[hr][HEADING=1]ULTRAJOE, I CHOOSE YOU!!!![/HEADING][hr]

I dont think its up to you to command a mod, but whatever.

I'll echo what everyone else is saying. This is a hate crime, plain and simple.

 

[Cerebreus]

I think The_AC was referencing this:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

Some question it's veracity. Take it as you will.

As for Cakes' comment, I think he was being sarcastic.

I'm aware of that, but the fact remains that it's not helping.

By the way, what was with the "UltraJoe" thing? RavingPenguin says UJ is a mod. If so, I'm curious about what you wanted him to do exactly.