Ubisoft Clarifies New Online DRM Scheme

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Dublin Solo said:
Woodsey said:
I'd love a contact email address where we can send polite and informative emails to Ubisoft, telling them what we think. Maybe a member of staff working at the Escapist could provide this? Or contact Ubisoft who can then announce the address directly?
You could try the contact info on the Ubisoft web site. Don't expect an answer, though.
Thanks - tried one of them and no reply.

I have doubts on whether it was a human contact though. I think I'm going to send the same email to every address I can find on their site.

Might get a reply then.
 

Altorin

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Amnestic said:
Altorin said:
that spoiler tag would have made more sense if we clicked on the picture to get the words, but whatchagonnado.
I'm going to take what you said, ignore it, then go buy that booze I mentioned in the other thread. And I'd like to see you stop me.

Especially since you're in Canada and I'm in the UK. You'd have to run very fast.
come on, I think you're already a little soused.. what I said made perfect sense, and I thought it was funny. lol

This is how I saw it:

"hey, guess what this is. *whispers* It's my wallet *pulls the wallet from behind back* The contents? not yours."

it tickled me
 

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Andy Chalk said:
if it's only down for a couple of seconds, the game will simply pause and then resume once the connection is reestablished.
This annoys me more than nearly everything else, because it shows how draconian this truly is.

They could, you know, try to reconnect for a while and then pause the game, but no. It WILL pause the game even if the connection is out for a "couple of seconds". And this is one of the nicest thing it does.
 

Premonition

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Sugar coating a steaming pile of bullshit is not exactly an explanation for your insanity, Ubisoft.
 

Dudemeister

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This is complete bullshit.
From now on, Ubisoft customers won't be buying their games, they will be buying the privilege of playing it under the specific circumstances that Ubisoft dictates.
I will not be playing any Ubisoft games until this is over. It's not a boycott or anything, I just refuse to deal with this shit.
 

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In my opinion; if you have a PC that is capable of running current day games you probably have it connected to the internet as well. I know mine is.

Yes I can acknowledge it is a bit of a nuisance, but I feel that's all it is. A leaf to be brushed off an apple before eating it.
And while eating it. Oh and if the tree that leaf came from dies you lose your apple.
 

Altorin

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I think it's clear to everyone except ubisoft that this is about as pants on head crazy as DRM can get.

The only way it could get worse is if you had to register your rectum when you purchase a game, and the game will only play if you are sitting on a speculum/scanning device that ensures only your rectum is playing the game that you bought.

like..

wow.

didn't mean to give them any ideas, sorry.
 
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Where they actually expecting anyone to buy it? Seems not.

Andy Chalk said:
if it's only down for a couple of seconds, the game will simply pause and then resume once the connection is reestablished.
And if you're in combat? Which...as far as I can tell from the title...would be quite frequent?
 
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If a game is a single player game I don't see why you need to be connected to the internet. Sure most people have an internet connection but this kind of DRM forces you tobe online which while thier idea of constatly reconnecting is nice what if you go somewhere without internet or have a slow connection?
 

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Can anyone explain to me how these measures will prevent piracy? (or at least explain Ubisoft's logic)

Give it a couple of weeks after launch and there's almost guaranteed to be a workable crack out there, rendering the whole process redundant.

I'm not saying I'll pirate the game, but I'm certainly not buying it now.
 

Nimbus

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Well fuck. This has gone and broken my bullshitometer. Ubisoft, you can be expecting the repair bill!

All jokes aside, even if I do buy this, I won't install it as-is. I'll have to install the not-retarded pirate version, because my connection drops out all the time.

See that Ubi? You're DRM is so inconvenient, you're literally forcing me to get the pirated version, because your anti-piracy software majorly inconveniences innocent consumers, but doesn't affect pirates in the slightest.
 

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Amnestic said:
Altorin said:
that spoiler tag would have made more sense if we clicked on the picture to get the words, but whatchagonnado.
I'm going to take what you said, ignore it, then go buy that booze I mentioned in the other thread. And I'd like to see you stop me.

Especially since you're in Canada and I'm in the UK. You'd have to run very fast.
[HEADING=1]Flawless Victory![/HEADING]

Amnestic Wins
 

Jared

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So they basically clarified how shit it is...Ubisoft take a hint and listen to people...
 

Altorin

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Nimbus said:
Well fuck. This has gone and broken my bullshitometer. Ubisoft, you can be expecting the repair bill!

All jokes aside, even if I do buy this, I won't install it as-is. I'll have to install the not-retarded pirate version, because my connection drops out all the time.

See that Ubi? You're DRM is so inconvenient, you're literally forcing me to get the pirated version, because your anti-piracy software majorly inconveniences innocent consumers, but doesn't affect pirates in the slightest.
If you're going to pirate it, do not buy it for the PC. honestly.

don't send them any message that this was a good idea.

If you want to pirate it, go right ahead (ALTORINS OPINIONS DO NOT NECESSARILY REFLECT THE OPINIONS OF THE ESCAPIST OR ITS PARENT COMPANY THEMIS MEDIA AND ARE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY), but definitely don't buy it. Maybe buy the console if you feel like you owe them, even if you don't have a console.. just don't buy it on the PC.

Vigilantis said:
Amnestic said:
Altorin said:
that spoiler tag would have made more sense if we clicked on the picture to get the words, but whatchagonnado.
I'm going to take what you said, ignore it, then go buy that booze I mentioned in the other thread. And I'd like to see you stop me.

Especially since you're in Canada and I'm in the UK. You'd have to run very fast.
[HEADING=1]Flawless Victory![/HEADING]

Amnestic Wins
Babality

fuckn' babies.
 

Monshroud

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All DRM does is stop casual piracy. Some kid lending a game to his friend, or a game getting spread around some college dorm floor. There has yet to be any form of DRM that has stopped piracy from the people who want to do it. I guarantee maybe a week or so after release there will be cracks for any Ubisoft game that uses this technology.

Does Ubisoft really think that the Hackers can't get around this sort of authentication and can't redirect saves to a local device instead of an IP?

Also, high-power gaming laptops are becoming more affordable. So what happens if you are on holiday and want to play your game late one night? What about being on a plane, or a train?

I love that they are trying to spin this in a positive way. Them saying 'Hey you can install this on as many computers as you want' completely disgards the fact that I could always do that, this isn't something new.

Can't we just go back to needing the damn CD in the drive and a CD-Key?
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

They think that this makes it better?!

News Flash Ubisoft: Assassin's Creed 2 is a single player game - if my internet fluctuates for a moment while playing a single player game, nothing at all should happen because it's a bloody single player game!!!!

We put up with lag, server hiccups, or outages when the game in question is an MMO, because it's a bloody online game, OF COURSE it needs to be online to work. What you are telling us now is that, should our internet service go out for some reason, all we have to do is leave our game open and unplayable until the internet service eventually comes back, then we can resume all the fun we were having before our inability to see the internet rendered the game that's running entirely off of our bloody hard drives because it's SINGLE PLAYER unplayable.

There is no possible way you can spin this to make it better. We don't care about "Your saves transfer to anywhere!" if it comes attached to "but since it requires an active internet connection at all time to even operate, you can't play at all if your net connection is down or if you are in areas without the possibility of connecting to the net (like when you USE A LAPTOP while TRAVELING)". It was insulting and onerous when EA wanted to have their games try to phone home and then lock you out if they didn't confirm you still weren't a pirate(!?) after so many days, but at least that system would have let you PLAY the game without being connected to the internet (for a while at least).

Cloud-based saves are a nifty feature for a single-player game, not a replacement for your bloody local hard drive, and tying the game's operations to a constant internet connection is bloody stupid - if they wanted us to be excited about this, their games should offer the feature of automatic account-based saves so long as you remain connected to the internet, not require that connection to function in the first place.

All this PR spin confirms for me is that whoever made this decision at Ubisoft is painfully stupid and has completely failed to grasp why the internet is now collectively burning you in effigy. You've just told us, in no uncertain terms, that yes, it is exactly as bad as we thought it was. Congratulations.

I will avoiding any Ubisoft title from this point forward, until such time as they realize they are retarded and stop screwing over their customers with these asinine DRM schemes, or the end of my natural lifespan (whichever comes first). And while the internet is quick to point out that those crying "Boycott!" rarely do shit about it and probably buy the game in question on launch day, believe me when I say that I will not only buck that trend, I will also take each and every single feasible opportunity I possibly can from here on out to actively dissuade every single person I know from ever giving any of their money to Ubisoft from now on.

When I say something like that, I damn well mean it.
 

Proteus214

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I still think it's garbage. I refer back to what Shamus Young said a few months back about modern DRM techniques in that, as of right now, the money you spend on games buys you the right to ask if you can play. Whether or not the selling party allows you is completely up to them.

I will not be giving my money to them knowing that if at any point their infrastructure fails, I would no longer be able to play their game.