Ubisoft Defends, Then Changes Anno DRM
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Limited activation is just as bad as always-on DRM. Why should pirates have the ability to play the game however they want, whenever they want, but honest customers can't? Ubisoft is so fuckin' retarded!
Seeing as Anno 2070 is a PC exclusive I don't really see how fans of the series could do anything else. However you do make a valid point. Pirating their games offers like a million times more convenience. I haven't had any problems with Driver San Fransisco so there's still a reason to buy their games although that reason gets smaller with every new release...Carnagath said:
My computer crashes a lot. I've re-installed it several times. And I may one day have to replace whatever component causes the crashes or get a new computer. Therefor, I treat the Anno game as an effective rental that I'll only be able to play for a limited amount of time. And thus I will only buy it once it drops to rental price.
What irks me most about the whole deal with Ubisoft's DRM is how hypocritical it is. They package their PC exclusive titles (Setlers, Anno, HoMM) with the most obtrusive, annoying, damaging DRM systems on the market and claim that they do it because it's the only way to combat piracy and that their system totally works. And then once they announce a title like I Am Alive, they defend the decision not to make a PC version by saying it isn't commercially viable because all the PC gamers will pirate the game anyway. Clearly, they have no faith in their own DRM system. So please Ubisoft, just sell all the franchises that you can't make work without a keyboard and mouse to Valve or Stardock, and we'll go our separate ways. We'll play PC classics without Orwellian DRM systems, and you can go ***** about how the second hand sales are ruining your console market profits.
What irks me most about the whole deal with Ubisoft's DRM is how hypocritical it is. They package their PC exclusive titles (Setlers, Anno, HoMM) with the most obtrusive, annoying, damaging DRM systems on the market and claim that they do it because it's the only way to combat piracy and that their system totally works. And then once they announce a title like I Am Alive, they defend the decision not to make a PC version by saying it isn't commercially viable because all the PC gamers will pirate the game anyway. Clearly, they have no faith in their own DRM system. So please Ubisoft, just sell all the franchises that you can't make work without a keyboard and mouse to Valve or Stardock, and we'll go our separate ways. We'll play PC classics without Orwellian DRM systems, and you can go ***** about how the second hand sales are ruining your console market profits.
Funny. My ISP and cell phone service make the same claim; yet whenever I call their respective service lines, it connects me to what sounds like a man talking broken English in a sandstorm.
But I'm sure Ubisoft's customer service got all the practice they never wanted after Assassin's Creed 2 was DDoS'd by amateurs.
Took the words out of my mouth.bificommander said:
Ubisoft doesn't have any faith in the PC market, yet they continue to try to force their PC customers to accept their crippleware in hopes that we will just agree to whatever insane demands they make of us.
From their perspective; their legitimate customers just need to be brought around to their line of thinking, and the problem is, that with this sort of DRM it is far too impractical for that to happen. Claiming a given incident is "rare" is misleading when the potential number of "rare" incidents is so high.
I'm all for fair business Ubisoft; if you make a good product I want to reward you for it so the next one is better or so that the number of options expands.
Yet, Ubisoft hasn't grasped this important, indisputable fact: Pissing off their REMAINING LEGITIMATE CUSTOMERS is far more dangerous to business than losing sales to piracy.
But they appear ready to go ahead with their "scorched Earth" market strategy.
They did apparently say that with a call to customer support, you could get the game to function again on a different PC hardware configuration. It's not that bad for us really.
On the other hand their game will get cracked regardless, so anyone willing to pirate their game would be willing to get a cracked version, waste of their time really.
On the other hand their game will get cracked regardless, so anyone willing to pirate their game would be willing to get a cracked version, waste of their time really.
I was hoping this article was about them removing the DRM.
I almost got interested in this series but the install limit is the absolute worst. I don't know how many times Ubisoft needs to learn their lesson, evidently not enough yet. This kind of DRM destroys games and developers. I refuse to be treated like a criminal.
I almost got interested in this series but the install limit is the absolute worst. I don't know how many times Ubisoft needs to learn their lesson, evidently not enough yet. This kind of DRM destroys games and developers. I refuse to be treated like a criminal.
It uses TAGES? Christ, what is wrong with Ubi. That DRM software is the only one, in my long years of gaming, that has ever given me trouble.
Andy Chalk said:
Is this limited to GPU switches?
And considering they let this one go, can they give up the ridiculous machine activation limits altogether now?
I have purchaces Anno 2070 On Steam.
I have played About 50 hours into it.
I have not had a single problem, at all, with playing my game.
Sooooo....
Ubisoft wins.
I have played About 50 hours into it.
I have not had a single problem, at all, with playing my game.
Sooooo....
Ubisoft wins.
because the games are actually good, unlike, say, EA games.Carnagath said:
and here i was wondering when will they start hashing computer id for DRM, turns out they already did
now all we need is for online games to ban computer id instead of IP and we got control of the internets.Well, the system is in place to prevent it being installed multiple times, and their service is supposed to be a barrier. Maybe they invested a lot of money in it working perfectly. Maybe it just takes a single email that is automatically replied to in minutes once a check has been performed that this particular copy hasn't had 3 new activation requests within a week. But I'm not putting 50 euros on a bet that it all works so smoothly. If I run out of activations once I do own the game, I'll try to ask for more. But I'm not buying it on the assumption that I'll get it with no problems. Hope for the best, but expect the worst. Ubisoft hasn't earned more credit than that in my book.CardinalPiggles said:
Can you really be that uninformed? If so then yes, Ubisoft wins.Jimmybobjr said:
As they say, you cant shear a shepherd.
Do you have any Ubisoft DRM game? Do you have any trouble with it? Please, enlighten me.PingoBlack said:
If not, then i would say im more informed than you. I have Assassins creed 1+2 on steam - no trouble, whatsoever.
Anno 2070-Nothing whatsoever.
So...
I have played 3 Ubisoft games for atleast 20 hours a piece, with no trouble. from that avalable information, i would be forced to assume that there is no problem
Personaly, i dont count the dozen-or-so people above me as reliable sources of information. So i ignore them.
(also, i cant say that ive ever heard the "Shear the Shepard" Thing above... ever. A quick google search seems to imply that infact no-one uses it. I mean, litteraly. The first three results are a Medical website, a Life of Birian movie clip and "101 Sheep Jokes".
Also, its confuses me.)