Ubisoft Hints At Toned-Down DRM
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Wow, 1.5 months? I'm a huge supporter of 'DRM sucks because hurts legit user, and pirates get it for free almost instantaneously', but that's a pretty impressive long period of protection-time. Doesn't that mean whatever they're doing is semi working?teh_Canape said:
This Ubicrap VP says...
' Is it fair for someone to enjoy our content without us receiving some value for that? '
... but shouldnt a proper customer based business be asking, how are we to ensure the paying customer is getting the full value of thier product instead ? Priorities here pal, priorities.
Pirate scum will pirate, all the DRM is doing is smacking the paying customer about.
I havent bought ( or pirated ) Dust, or Settlers, or any Ubi published game ( except Anno ) due to thier draconian DRM , theres pirates playing those games... but theres at least 1 (ONE) customer here who wont due to DRM.
Besides Ubi , you are too slow... behind the time, has beens, old fashioned, out of date...
... then new buzzword is ( cue Bobs wieeerrrdd voice here ) USED SALES ARE KILLING GAMES.
Not piracy.
' Is it fair for someone to enjoy our content without us receiving some value for that? '
... but shouldnt a proper customer based business be asking, how are we to ensure the paying customer is getting the full value of thier product instead ? Priorities here pal, priorities.
Pirate scum will pirate, all the DRM is doing is smacking the paying customer about.
I havent bought ( or pirated ) Dust, or Settlers, or any Ubi published game ( except Anno ) due to thier draconian DRM , theres pirates playing those games... but theres at least 1 (ONE) customer here who wont due to DRM.
Besides Ubi , you are too slow... behind the time, has beens, old fashioned, out of date...
... then new buzzword is ( cue Bobs wieeerrrdd voice here ) USED SALES ARE KILLING GAMES.
Not piracy.
probablyantipunt said:
it's the ingame type of DRM, like Arkham Asylum for example
it doesn't prevent you from playing the game, it just fucks your experience until it reaches the point where it becomes unplayable
People have to stop falling for this PR stuff. How many times have we heard publishers say things like this only to fall back on ever worse DRM. Remember how after Spore EA pledged to have less intrusive DRM, where are we today with EA?
I... I've heard that before...ASnogarD said:
Well, that settles it. Ubisoft are an evil corporation operating from the bottom of the ocean killing people and harvesting their organs to fuel their debilitating DRM addiction. But it's ok, because I know how to fix this: Would you kindly pass me that golf club...
It's also worth noting that even the guy who made that claim said pretty much it was more than an estimate; rather, it was a huuuuuge ass-pull based on some fairly massaged numbers.Irridium said:
Unfortunately, it's easier to remember the sound byte. Especially if it's a shocking number. 4.5 million is a lot!
It also does belie an impressive point, which you certainly got at. other games, including DRMed games, were pirated more in 2011.
Which goes to my point, which I think is your point as well, stop punishing us for wanting to buy your product.
Think logically, though. That would mean, based on Torrentfreak's numbers, that the Witcher was pirated roughly 55% as much as Modern Warfare 3.Jodah said:
I guess I don't see your point. Are you saying it was pirated less than MW3? Well yeah, MW3 also sold over 9 times as much in the first day than Witcher 2 did over several months.Zachary Amaranth said:
Are you saying the piracy numbers are still lower than 50% of CD Project's estimates? Even if you go as low as 25% of their estimate you are at a 1 to 1 ratio and I doubt CD Project would inflate the numbers that much.
I haven't bought a Ubisoft game at full price and this announcement won't make me change that decision.
All they have to do is set their priorities like this:
1. Don't inconvenience our customers.
2. Prevent people from pirating our games.
Instead of falling into embarassing situations like when AC:Revelations for PC, with all of its DRM was leaked and cracked week early. Their paying customers end up putting up with DRM for no real reason.
While TW2 only appeared on torrent sites post-launch, and its buyers have zero DRM to inconvenience them now.
1. Don't inconvenience our customers.
2. Prevent people from pirating our games.
Instead of falling into embarassing situations like when AC:Revelations for PC, with all of its DRM was leaked and cracked week early. Their paying customers end up putting up with DRM for no real reason.
While TW2 only appeared on torrent sites post-launch, and its buyers have zero DRM to inconvenience them now.
Because they didn't have any numbers! They don't need to inflate numbers they pulled from their ass! You're comparing actual numbers to fictional ones. Real statistics to guestimates that even the guy who said them admitted were shoddy.Jodah said:
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=croteamLunar Templar said:
It takes like 5 seconds to find out.
OT: I would tend to believe that they've realized that their DRM is absolute bullcrap and they want to try something different. Whether that something else will be better or worse is yet to be seen.
thanks, got it, like 3 times, less then 10 minutes after i asked, from 3 people on page 1, that weren't smug about itviolinist1129 said:
Uhhh... I don't get it. They already made the right thing with Rayman Origins for PC... why would they add even more resources to their games they already made by adding more content "MMO style"?, that seems way too risky to me and that could potentially take away some precious resources they could be spending for making new and better games.
How about you only make great games and sell them on Steam?. Sounds crazy, I know, but it could work.
How about you only make great games and sell them on Steam?. Sounds crazy, I know, but it could work.