Ubisoft Puts PC Piracy Rate at 93-95%

Lunar Templar

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oh look, they're talking out of they're asses again -.-

if 95% of PC gamers where pirated, I'd have gotten DarkSiders 2 last week instead of waiting till tomorrow, when i get paid, to get it
 

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Burst6 said:
Something tells me Mr. Ubisoft wants made an excuse for the investors so he can get into the F2P market.

Here's a puzzle for all of you. Nexon vs ubisoft. Who is the most evil?
ubisoft, with out question :p
 

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I guess I am the 6-7% who pay for games and contribute to F2P games but I won't lie I've also pirated... does this make me the 1%?
 

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If 95% of media on the PC is pirated, then logicly speaking if we cure piracy then games should only cost 5% of what they do now. Afterall, if you can stay in business with only 5% of the market actually buying it, then you can pass on the savings to us. Right?

I'll take the Mass Effect box set for $12 now, thank you.
 

The Artificially Prolonged

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Wait if Ubisoft thinks only about 5% of PC gamers actually pay for games (haha bollocks). I always wonder where companies get these piracy statistics. I imagine it is some intern throwing a dart at a dartboard blindfolded.

I'm a PC gamer I don't pirate, I don't buy Ubisoft games on pc either, and I am not likely to buy them on console anymore either. Mainly because I like many others have simply had enough of Ubisoft's shit.
 

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Haha, this guy is one of the reasons I don't touch their games until they are real cheap and then that is only if I really want to play the game. My buddy had it better when he said he would not touch Ubishit games on the PC, even though that is his favorite platform. He buys them for a console, and only if it's Assassin's Creed.

The only way to get a successfully working PC product from Ubishit these days is to buy the game, and then pirate a copy as that is the version that will work. I think he needs to take into account how many people do that, I'm guessing I'm not the only one.

EDIT: I forgot... yada yada yada, pirated =/= not purchased, yada yada yada.
 

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That high? Really? Come on.
There must be more than 7% of PC gamers that don't even use the internet much. Let alone.
Argh.
Brain imploded.
 

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Diana Kingston-Gabai said:
Now would be the time for some enterprising Google-fu expert to find out how much money Ubisoft has made in sales over the past six months. :)
Well their year to date gross profit is at ?718.1, which is up from last year, and I believe their quarterly was up 27.2% over last year.
 

Diana Kingston-Gabai

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barbzilla said:
Diana Kingston-Gabai said:
Now would be the time for some enterprising Google-fu expert to find out how much money Ubisoft has made in sales over the past six months. :)
Well their year to date gross profit is at ?718.1, which is up from last year, and I believe their quarterly was up 27.2% over last year.
Well, in that case... :)

 

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How'd they come to this figure? I'd have a hard time believing that piracy rates are as high as 30-35%. 95% seems like an incredible ass pull of a guestimate to me.
 

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Still playing fickle with your market Ubisoft?

"We don't want to support PC! (*mutters* Because it isn't a console)" (2009)
"We sunk a bunch of scratch into making bullshit DRM for our PC games! Nobody has beaten it!" (2010)
"We're sorry to report that mayyyybe our DRM was beaten..." (2011)
"We don't want to support PC because of the high piracy rate!" (2012)

Yeah, those PC gamers. Those greedy fucksticks. Always piratin' and lootin'.
Obviously if it isn't F2P, nobody can turn a profit on PC anymore so why bother, right?

*rolls eyes*
 

viranimus

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Relax guys... This is completely accurate. 95% of ubisoft products with their asinine DRM are pirated. Every other company as well as the few Ubi products released without are instantly knocked back to the accurate amount of 8% or less.


Really, the only reason people pirate ubisoft products nowadays is out of spite.
 

synobal

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You know what screw you ubisoft, I've got a copy of The Prince of Persia two thrones, that I bought after enjoying the first two (yes even the angsty one) and after beating it once I uninstalled it, you want to know why? It uses a terrible DRM scheme called Starforce that caused system instability in my freaking computer and half the time it still wouldn't let me play my game!

Since then I've bought exactly 0 of your games and I've pirated exactly 0, your lack of sales is your own damn fault.
 

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95%, yeah right, What does that mean that if they sell 250,000 copies than 5million people are pirating there games, Ubisoft you are not that popular. the released data for crysis 2 wasn't even that high (and I'd bet that a few of the people did that to test there systems), on top of the fact that many people who already own ubisoft games pirate them just so they don't have to deal with DRM
 

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FEichinger said:
Sales figures say they would need both FY2011 and FY2012 (pre-orders in 2011) almost entirely, and at a 35? average pricing of a AC:R copy, to come to a number of 7.5 million units. It seems like they're constantly pulling numbers out of their collective asses.
I beg your pardon?
I used the numbers from VGChartz. While I doubt that they provide pin point accuracy, I think they are accurate enough to make my point that using cross platform numbers is wrong when he talks about the PC only.


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And, even if you take out the console market, you end up with a ridiculous number.
I was not arguing that he could be right. In fact I said he is talking rubbish a page earlier. However trying to prove that he is full of shit with a naïve fallacy as outrages as some people here made is not very convincing.

Lets get something at least bit more convincing: Pirate charts: http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-pirated-games-of-2011-111230/

In 2011 the most pirated PC game was apparently Crysis 2 with ~3.9M downloads.

Believing his 93% pirate rate using Assassin's Creed Revelations PC figures would mean that AC:R beat the most pirated game of 2011 by roughly 1,3M downloads which is an increase of one third. That is, as you already said, rather unlikely.
However Crysis 2 sold according to VGChartz about 600k units. Considering this leads me to believe that while this guy is obviously exaggerating the pirating rate on the PC it still is staggering high.
 

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I really hope they aren't correct about this percentage. Maybe their new Steam-like online store Uplay can provide a suitable DRM-shield and a convenient distribution method for developers and gamers alike.

This should lower piracy.