I am in favour of people pirating Ubisoft games solely for the purpose of undermining their profit margins eventually leading to bankruptcy.
Ubisoft Puts PC Piracy Rate at 93-95%
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I wonder how many of those so called pirates cracked the game they brought so they could play offline? Either way there no way 95% of people are pirates. Once again some big head has gone and insulted more or less every pc gamer by calling them all pirates.
I was thinking that it sounded backwards too.McMullen said:
If it's true, me and a few friends better get to pirating. I can afford new games and all but I don't want to disappoint.
93-95% piracy seems like a misleading stat at first but the more I think about it the more it seems plausible.
Games may only sell about 2 million units and be considered a success in the long term.
Yet there's something like 300 million people in the U.S alone.
Seems likely that almost 2 million of them would pirate the game over time.
Games may only sell about 2 million units and be considered a success in the long term.
Yet there's something like 300 million people in the U.S alone.
Seems likely that almost 2 million of them would pirate the game over time.
[link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/111951-Ubisoft-Says-Always-On-DRM-A-Success[/link]
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Words fail me.
I don't want to see Ubisoft die- despite some of their ham-handed tactics, I think they've made some excellent games, and are generally several shades less pale than EA and Activision- but maneuvers like always-on DRM that people hated even before it was revealed to set their computers up for exploit, combined with the self-contradictions that seem apparent in their statements... bring to mind two or more people all clutching at the same steering wheel as the car barrels down the road.
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Words fail me.
I don't want to see Ubisoft die- despite some of their ham-handed tactics, I think they've made some excellent games, and are generally several shades less pale than EA and Activision- but maneuvers like always-on DRM that people hated even before it was revealed to set their computers up for exploit, combined with the self-contradictions that seem apparent in their statements... bring to mind two or more people all clutching at the same steering wheel as the car barrels down the road.
I actually think that's a pretty close guess.
After all, World of Goo (a very cheap game that's completely DRM-free) had a piracy rate of around 90%. I highly doubt whether Ubisoft's DRM does anything to decrease this number (in fact, it probably increases it.)
Anyway, it's nice to see that Ubisoft is trying something other than draconian DRM though I'm not quite certain how they are going to pull off a free-to-play model in games like Assassin's creed.
After all, World of Goo (a very cheap game that's completely DRM-free) had a piracy rate of around 90%. I highly doubt whether Ubisoft's DRM does anything to decrease this number (in fact, it probably increases it.)
Anyway, it's nice to see that Ubisoft is trying something other than draconian DRM though I'm not quite certain how they are going to pull off a free-to-play model in games like Assassin's creed.
I can't take Ubisoft seriously any longer. As long as they keep making ridiculous claims like this, unsupported by any proof, they will continue to be the laughing stock of the gaming world. Yes, EA may be more evil. Yes, Activision is run by a real jerk. Ubisoft, however, is the most out there with their claims. 19 out of 20 PC gamers pirate their stuff, indeed. I doubt 19 out of 20 PC gamers can figure out how to get a torrent running if you held a gun to their head.
I am pretty sure this is just Ubisoft trying to convince their investors that they are handling the problem, basically lying through their teeth to convince people who don't know any better that they are protecting their games from the nasty pirates.
You see, Ubisoft DRM was never about preventing piracy, they know as well as we do that it wont work and only hurts paying customers. It was meant to prevent investors from jumping ship when they learn that people can just go get the game for free any time they want. "No, see, it will be different this time because of our awesome DRM!" then "Our old DRM wasn't effective, but we got new, harder to hack DRM now!" But that old excuse is wearing thin. After 5 or 6 cycles, the investors have started to wonder why these progressively "better" DRM's keep on failing. This latest lie and F2P kick is just the most recent in the pattern. They probably already have their next step planned.
I will believe that 93% of PC games are pirated, but only from a very specific point of view and only if you manipulate the numbers really hard. It is probably not a lie, but they are twisting the truth so hard it isn't recognizable anymore. And why would they do that when it makes their customers hate them? Because they don't care about us, they care about investors. they know their games, which I will grudgingly admit are actually good, will turn a profit even if we all hate them so they spend their energy kissing up to the investors.
Their investors don't understand the industry, they don't understand why and when games get pirated, and they never will.
This is all just a guess on my part, but it is the only explanation I can give for this bizarre and moronic behavior. It all makes sense if you assume they are playing a different game.
You see, Ubisoft DRM was never about preventing piracy, they know as well as we do that it wont work and only hurts paying customers. It was meant to prevent investors from jumping ship when they learn that people can just go get the game for free any time they want. "No, see, it will be different this time because of our awesome DRM!" then "Our old DRM wasn't effective, but we got new, harder to hack DRM now!" But that old excuse is wearing thin. After 5 or 6 cycles, the investors have started to wonder why these progressively "better" DRM's keep on failing. This latest lie and F2P kick is just the most recent in the pattern. They probably already have their next step planned.
I will believe that 93% of PC games are pirated, but only from a very specific point of view and only if you manipulate the numbers really hard. It is probably not a lie, but they are twisting the truth so hard it isn't recognizable anymore. And why would they do that when it makes their customers hate them? Because they don't care about us, they care about investors. they know their games, which I will grudgingly admit are actually good, will turn a profit even if we all hate them so they spend their energy kissing up to the investors.
Their investors don't understand the industry, they don't understand why and when games get pirated, and they never will.
This is all just a guess on my part, but it is the only explanation I can give for this bizarre and moronic behavior. It all makes sense if you assume they are playing a different game.
oh look, they're talking out of they're asses again -.-
if 95% of PC gamers where pirated, I'd have gotten DarkSiders 2 last week instead of waiting till tomorrow, when i get paid, to get it
if 95% of PC gamers where pirated, I'd have gotten DarkSiders 2 last week instead of waiting till tomorrow, when i get paid, to get it
I guess I am the 6-7% who pay for games and contribute to F2P games but I won't lie I've also pirated... does this make me the 1%?
If 95% of media on the PC is pirated, then logicly speaking if we cure piracy then games should only cost 5% of what they do now. Afterall, if you can stay in business with only 5% of the market actually buying it, then you can pass on the savings to us. Right?
I'll take the Mass Effect box set for $12 now, thank you.
I'll take the Mass Effect box set for $12 now, thank you.
Wait if Ubisoft thinks only about 5% of PC gamers actually pay for games (haha bollocks). I always wonder where companies get these piracy statistics. I imagine it is some intern throwing a dart at a dartboard blindfolded.
I'm a PC gamer I don't pirate, I don't buy Ubisoft games on pc either, and I am not likely to buy them on console anymore either. Mainly because I like many others have simply had enough of Ubisoft's shit.
I'm a PC gamer I don't pirate, I don't buy Ubisoft games on pc either, and I am not likely to buy them on console anymore either. Mainly because I like many others have simply had enough of Ubisoft's shit.
Haha, this guy is one of the reasons I don't touch their games until they are real cheap and then that is only if I really want to play the game. My buddy had it better when he said he would not touch Ubishit games on the PC, even though that is his favorite platform. He buys them for a console, and only if it's Assassin's Creed.
The only way to get a successfully working PC product from Ubishit these days is to buy the game, and then pirate a copy as that is the version that will work. I think he needs to take into account how many people do that, I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
EDIT: I forgot... yada yada yada, pirated =/= not purchased, yada yada yada.
The only way to get a successfully working PC product from Ubishit these days is to buy the game, and then pirate a copy as that is the version that will work. I think he needs to take into account how many people do that, I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
EDIT: I forgot... yada yada yada, pirated =/= not purchased, yada yada yada.
There must be more than 7% of PC gamers that don't even use the internet much. Let alone.
Argh.
Brain imploded.
Well their year to date gross profit is at ?718.1, which is up from last year, and I believe their quarterly was up 27.2% over last year.Diana Kingston-Gabai said:Now would be the time for some enterprising Google-fu expert to find out how much money Ubisoft has made in sales over the past six months.
Well, in that case...barbzilla said:Well their year to date gross profit is at ?718.1, which is up from last year, and I believe their quarterly was up 27.2% over last year.Diana Kingston-Gabai said:Now would be the time for some enterprising Google-fu expert to find out how much money Ubisoft has made in sales over the past six months.
